*****Official Kansas City Setlist Thread 5/3*****

Gary Carter

They play them to bring in the casual fan and to make the show "sold out" so can they can make more money. If you can't see that then keep drinking the kool aid and one day realize its all bout making money and not bout the fans. If they didn't play the hits they'd be using backdrops at venues like msg and td garden and staples center. Where they will only get 15,000 people instead of 20,000 people. I'm not being a dick or pissing on the show its just me being blunt. Its a great show for a first timer. Give me the bsides anyday of the week. Shit SOLAT319 is happy she saved money after looking at the seltist and she's probably been to 30+ shows.

I've only been to 9 shows and philly 2,3 and 4 set the bar for me personally.

Even dr. Sluggo said the encore was meh and he was at the concert

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

seriously how much would an encore suck if they came out and played only songs 90% of the audience has never heard and doesnt want to hear? makes 0 sense. talk about sucking the energy out of a venue.

they've already got your money. they play it FOR THE FANS

Lifted

MrSmith wrote:

seriously how much would an encore suck if they came out and played only songs 90% of the audience has never heard and doesnt want to hear? makes 0 sense. talk about sucking the energy out of a venue.

they've already got your money. they play it FOR THE FANS

yeah i don't understand this logic. how can you be a pearl jam fan and not like alive, black, free world and ledbetter? these are some of their best songs. would you seriously rather hear sweet lew again? that would excite about 100 people in the crowd...out of the 15-20,000 that are there. buzzkill.

Gary Carter

MrSmith wrote:

seriously how much would an encore suck if they came out and played only songs 90% of the audience has never heard and doesnt want to hear? makes 0 sense. talk about sucking the energy out of a venue.

they've already got your money. they play it FOR THE FANS

go buy a ticketmaster and just watch the person next to you the whole night. . I bet you 100 bucks the only time they'd rock out is during the hits. Most casual fans take a break during a song like sad or others but the minute they hear those opening notes to black they'll sing their little hearts out. I saw a person next to me at msg texting during wma but for given to fly or evenflow they quickly put their blackberry away and rocked out. They guy thought wma was a cover song. Lol

Gary Carter

Tiki Barber wrote:

MrSmith wrote:

seriously how much would an encore suck if they came out and played only songs 90% of the audience has never heard and doesnt want to hear? makes 0 sense. talk about sucking the energy out of a venue.

they've already got your money. they play it FOR THE FANS

yeah i don't understand this logic. how can you be a pearl jam fan and not like alive, black, free world and ledbetter? these are some of their best songs. would you seriously rather hear sweet lew again? that would excite about 100 people in the crowd...out of the 15-20,000 that are there. buzzkill.

its called being a fan and not a elitist person. Their are many others on here who feel the way I do but don't have the balls to say shit bout how sucky the hits are at a concert cause of people like you.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

they play so many songs there is enough to go around. they played fucking God's Dice for chrissakes. what more can you ask for?

i usually go with casual fans and would be dissappointed if they didnt get to hear Black or Alive.

i respect the hell out of this band for playing songs the people want to hear when i know they might be a little tired of some of them (although honestly you cant tell from the way they play them). glad they dont go the douchebag route and only play new stuff to appease the self-entitled front row crowd and refuse to play the songs that got them where they are (and what a lot of people payed to see).

Flagg

nbakyfan wrote:

How filled was the arena/where were your guys 10c seats?

Just got back. Arena was pretty full. As someone mentioned the very back of the upper deck was blocked off but other than that it was full. I was expecting half full because of the predictions on here.

262xxx got me floor, row 23. But on th aisle so could see perfectly.

Solid show. Solid crowd. I like the hits. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Gary Carter

MrSmith wrote:

they play so many songs there is enough to go around. they played fucking God's Dice for chrissakes. what more can you ask for?

i usually go with casual fans and would be dissappointed if they didnt get to hear Black or Alive.

i respect the hell out of this band for playing songs the people want to hear when i know they might be a little tired of some of them (although honestly you cant tell from the way they play them). glad they dont go the douchebag route and only play new stuff to appease the self-entitled front row crowd and refuse to play the songs that got them where they are (and what a lot of people payed to see).

You just said what I've been saying the past 4 posts. This band could play alive in its sleep its gotten so old. You don't think they'd like to play a cover song or some rare bside say like bugs instead of daughter the main set. Philly 4 went bat shit crazy for bugs and sweet lew. It was so cool to see jeff sing and ed nail bugs.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

metsfan wrote:

MrSmith wrote:

they play so many songs there is enough to go around. they played fucking God's Dice for chrissakes. what more can you ask for?

i usually go with casual fans and would be dissappointed if they didnt get to hear Black or Alive.

i respect the hell out of this band for playing songs the people want to hear when i know they might be a little tired of some of them (although honestly you cant tell from the way they play them). glad they dont go the douchebag route and only play new stuff to appease the self-entitled front row crowd and refuse to play the songs that got them where they are (and what a lot of people payed to see).

You just said what I've been saying the past 4 posts. This band could play alive in its sleep its gotten so old. You don't think they'd like to play a cover song or some rare bside say like bugs instead of daughter the main set. Philly 4 went bat shit crazy for bugs and sweet lew. It was so cool to see jeff sing and ed nail bugs.

im not so sure about that. i cant believe they play Even Flow every night if they hate it so much. i think they honestly enjoy it, maybe even to the point that they dont give a shit about what the tenclub snobs think about it. plus i've seen them look pretty bored and disinterested playing some rare stuff before. its probably hard to find a lot of lesser known songs that the whole band enjoys playing.

Gary Carter

MrSmith wrote:

metsfan wrote:

MrSmith wrote:

they play so many songs there is enough to go around. they played fucking God's Dice for chrissakes. what more can you ask for?

i usually go with casual fans and would be dissappointed if they didnt get to hear Black or Alive.

i respect the hell out of this band for playing songs the people want to hear when i know they might be a little tired of some of them (although honestly you cant tell from the way they play them). glad they dont go the douchebag route and only play new stuff to appease the self-entitled front row crowd and refuse to play the songs that got them where they are (and what a lot of people payed to see).

You just said what I've been saying the past 4 posts. This band could play alive in its sleep its gotten so old. You don't think they'd like to play a cover song or some rare bside say like bugs instead of daughter the main set. Philly 4 went bat shit crazy for bugs and sweet lew. It was so cool to see jeff sing and ed nail bugs.

im not so sure about that. i cant believe they play Even Flow every night if they hate it so much. i think they honestly enjoy it, maybe even to the point that they dont give a shit about what the tenclub snobs think about it. plus i've seen them look pretty bored and disinterested playing some rare stuff before. its probably hard to find a lot of lesser known songs that the whole band enjoys playing.

I totally agree with your last point. Its probably very hard to say hey who wants to play bugs or outta my mind or half full. They have so many cool songs that never ever will get played. Like how often is dirty frank or push me pull me played. Shit even RVM isn't played a lot and that's consider a hit.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

yeah. plus they probably forget how to play half of them until they rehearse a little. wit every new album they probably forget a little more. but i could definitely stand to hear Push me pull me and 1/2full more. an the fact the Immortality is so rarely played is a tragedy.

dimitrispearljam

dont have any problem to see this setlist in a show,im going in the summer!!

Gary Carter

MrSmith wrote:

yeah. plus they probably forget how to play half of them until they rehearse a little. wit every new album they probably forget a little more. but i could definitely stand to hear Push me pull me and 1/2full more. an the fact the Immortality is so rarely played is a tragedy.

I love that breakdown mike does with pj drummers during immortality. Fucking badass. Even RVM has gotten better.

Brisk.

of the girl!!!!!!

Jennytree

I really like this setlist - Of The Girl is a great choice for an opener! I'd be very happy to have this played this summer

BLACK35

I thought the setlist was great (wasn't at the show) and I would be happy if they played something very similar in Buffalo.

Lifted

metsfan wrote:

Tiki Barber wrote:

MrSmith wrote:

seriously how much would an encore suck if they came out and played only songs 90% of the audience has never heard and doesnt want to hear? makes 0 sense. talk about sucking the energy out of a venue.

they've already got your money. they play it FOR THE FANS

yeah i don't understand this logic. how can you be a pearl jam fan and not like alive, black, free world and ledbetter? these are some of their best songs. would you seriously rather hear sweet lew again? that would excite about 100 people in the crowd...out of the 15-20,000 that are there. buzzkill.

its called being a fan and not a elitist person. Their are many others on here who feel the way I do but don't have the balls to say shit bout how sucky the hits are at a concert cause of people like you.

haha. i'm an elitist because i like to hear the hits? i think maybe you have this backwards. don't get me wrong, i love some of the songs they don't play as much that you're talking about...half full, immortality, tremor christ. actually i love hearing pretty much anything by pearl jam. but, some of the more obscure songs tend to suck the air out of a venue. i think the band feeds off the energy of the crowd, and most of the crowd wants to hear the hits, despite what you may think. not only that, but the band is a lot tighter when playing songs they are used to playing. it just makes for a better show. i've been to 15 pj shows, some of them being pretty historic sets around these boards...so it's not like i'm not qualified to draw a comparison...i'm just sayin, if they didn't play any hits, the shows would suffer. i was at lollapalooza in '07 which was pretty much a greatest hits setlist and it rocked.

Wobbie

imalive wrote:

muellerblaylock wrote:

2 or 3 songs left in Encore 2. . .call them bitches!

i'll take the easy route....alive, ritfw, yl

I just realized......I nailed this!

littlewingfridays

The setlists get more varied as the tour goes on

AndySlash

wishlist wasn't aborted. it had a different ending, finishing on the final line instead of fading out like it used to.

on the setlist it said "short" next to wishlist. they knew what they were doing.



only set difference was porch was moved to the end of e1 instead of mid-e2.