Is progressive Asheville Obama’s vision for America?

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Is progressive Asheville Obama’s vision for America?
Hip, environmentally aware, self-reliant and undeniably quaint, Asheville, N.C is a progressive’s vision of what America could be. But mountain liberalism comes at a price

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President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama meet other hikers while walking along a trail off the Blue Ridge Parkway outside of Asheville, N.C., Friday.

Official White House Photo by Pete Souza

Okay, maybe the Obamas’ Asheville, N.C., trip is just a romantic getaway and a chance to grab some 12 Bones BBQ, as the White House suggests.

But you know something is going on when even the local “tea party” affiliate welcomes Obama to their “mountain paradise.”

Critics like Hoover Institution fellow Shelby Steele have complained that Obama’s “ultimate vision, he has not been very clear about.”

So given that the Obama’s “kind of fell in love” with the Buncombe County burg during a debate prep visit during the 2008 campaign, could Asheville itself be a clue to what the President is thinking when he talks about “transforming” America?

'Hillbilly-hippies'

Founded as a health resort, the little city of “hillbilly-hippies,” entrepreneurs, musicians, retirees, and community drum circles is, indeed, a progressive’s vision of America.

Nestled in the oldest hills on earth, Asheville (pop. 70,000), the first East Coast city to require sustainable green construction, is a sort of experiment in environmentalism that has made the city the gateway to the new Appalachia and gotten it listed both as one of America’s “happiest places” and as one of the “best places to reinvent your life.”

But it also represents conservative fears about what President’s intentions might wreak: A dearth of high-paying jobs, relatively high taxes, large numbers of homeless and other wards of the state, a high crime rate, and a progressive ruling class perhaps more interested in maintaining quaintness than thickening residents’ wallets.

“At least as far back as the arrival of the Vanderbilts, it has been a haven for artists, innovative types, sophisticated thinkers, and people who want a little something more out of life than the average,” writes former resident Thomas Osborne on City-Data.com. “Asheville is cultured and educated, perhaps more like a New England town, but amazingly friendly and polite, like a piece of decent southern aristocracy.”

To be sure, the visit also fits into Obama’s “White House to Main Street” program, where he will travel next week to the struggling small towns of the Midwest who first gave him real traction in the 2008 campaign.
'A guy like the rest of us'

And compared to other presidential vacations to tony Martha’s Vineyard, this trip represents a “middle class” vacation to portray Obama as what Dolly Jenkins-Mullen of the University of North Carolina calls “a guy like the rest of us” as Congress ponders a crackdown on Wall Street.

Politically, the visit – the President’s fourth to North Carolina – also could be a signal, writes Politico, that his popularity in North Carolina, a state he stole from the Republicans in 2008, is turning as Democratic support fractures.

But if Asheville is indeed an Obama vision for America, there’s a stark lesson about the impact of soaring debt in hard times to glean from the city, as well.

The city’s success today – embodied by its rich catalog of Art Deco buildings – came at a price.

As a result of the 1920s building spree, Asheville “entered the Depression with the highest per capita debt in the country,” writes New Hampshire native Terry Pindell in “A Good Place to Live.”

“All across America, governments declared bankruptcy, further contributing … to the national depression. But Ashevillians’ stubborn mountain pride led them to choose a different path [which] made Asheville what it is today. They created a sinking fund to pay off every cent of the debt, no matter how long it took. [T]he debt wasn’t retired until 1977. For forty years Asheville lay in an economic cocoon – a long sleep.”
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  • aw shit !!!!
    say it aint so....
  • markin ballmarkin ball Posts: 1,075
    Somebody had nothing to write about.
    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."

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  • anyone who considers obama even remotely progressive is insane. obama is a centrist at best, most likely even a right wing democrat, a conservative democrat. He is pro-war. He's pro nuke. Against welfare handouts. in terms of being progressive, he aint the guy who pops in my mind when i think of that word
  • i have friends who are republican. i remember prior to the 08 election my friend saying obama is radical and his policies are crazy. i just think that viewpoint is so bizaare, with all due respect to my friend. its like the people who say "hilary is a socialist" or "obama is a socialist". I am a socialist, literally. I am a registered member of the US Socialist party. And let me tell you all, obama, hilary, they aint socialist.

    its hard to even reason with that viewpoint. calling obama a socialist. the guy is a capitalist. his campaign was funded by big buisness. he certainly hasnt come out and said anything even resembling a critique on corporate america because he knows what side his bread is buttered on.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    i have friends who are republican. i remember prior to the 08 election my friend saying obama is radical and his policies are crazy. i just think that viewpoint is so bizaare, with all due respect to my friend. its like the people who say "hilary is a socialist" or "obama is a socialist". I am a socialist, literally. I am a registered member of the US Socialist party. And let me tell you all, obama, hilary, they aint socialist.

    its hard to even reason with that viewpoint. calling obama a socialist. the guy is a capitalist. his campaign was funded by big buisness. he certainly hasnt come out and said anything even resembling a critique on corporate america because he knows what side his bread is buttered on.

    i know ... it's what is so laughable when you hear conservatives call him that ... it just goes to show that they really have no clue what they are talking about and are just regurgitating what is fed to them by their right-wing media outlets ...

    edit: Asheville does indeed rock
  • anyone who considers obama even remotely progressive is insane. obama is a centrist at best, most likely even a right wing democrat, a conservative democrat. He is pro-war. He's pro nuke. Against welfare handouts. in terms of being progressive, he aint the guy who pops in my mind when i think of that word


    with all due respect :lol::lol::lol:
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    polaris_x wrote:
    i have friends who are republican. i remember prior to the 08 election my friend saying obama is radical and his policies are crazy. i just think that viewpoint is so bizaare, with all due respect to my friend. its like the people who say "hilary is a socialist" or "obama is a socialist". I am a socialist, literally. I am a registered member of the US Socialist party. And let me tell you all, obama, hilary, they aint socialist.

    its hard to even reason with that viewpoint. calling obama a socialist. the guy is a capitalist. his campaign was funded by big buisness. he certainly hasnt come out and said anything even resembling a critique on corporate america because he knows what side his bread is buttered on.

    i know ... it's what is so laughable when you hear conservatives call him that ... it just goes to show that they really have no clue what they are talking about and are just regurgitating what is fed to them by their right-wing media outlets ...

    edit: Asheville does indeed rock

    It does indeed rock and has one of the best small venue for concerts The Orange Peel. You could even bump into the President on a hike there too...
    Russell had been hiking for about an hour when she saw the motorcade pass below on the parkway. She thought it was going elsewhere.

    "And then I saw two men with little pins and ear pieces, and I thought, 'Oh, they're just checking out the hill to make sure no one's going to snipe or something like that,'" she said.

    Russell then ran into more Secret Service agents dressed all in black. They carried a "big, heavy case of some sort," she said. A woman quickly walked up to Russell and asked her if it was OK for the agents to scan her with a metal-detecting wand.

    "They went through my pockets and my little waist pack and my camera; they checked to make sure it was a camera," Russell said. "And then I probably went 10 feet and I couldn't believe it. I just looked up (at the Obamas) and I said something really stupid, like 'Are you who I think you are? You are!'"

    Russell shook hands with the president and first lady, and told Obama she voted for him in 2008. She didn't tell him, however, that she had campaigned for him in Ohio and had been chased off several people's properties.

    Westerville Woman Meets Obama On The Hiking Trail

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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    i gotta gather up the dude and dudettes and bring back our pilgrimage to the nantahalla river!
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    yes, i'm aware obama is far from a progressive but it's nice to see my city get props :mrgreen:

    not only were we the first city on the east coast to require green building supplies but the downtown area has a no chain stores policy (though, there is a ten thousand villages), the city government uses natural gas and biofueled vehicles, they get a lot of their electricity for government buildings and libraries from solar power....we have a nice little bubble in a beautiful region

    the orange peel does get a lot of great shows but i've also seen a lot of good shows at the thomas wolfe auditorium not even a mile from the orange peel. i've seen the strokes, decemberists, ani difranco (though, for the past few years she plays 2 shows at the orange peel each tour)....there and right next to that is the civic center where pearl jam played on the vfc tour and where the warren haynes xmas jam is each year (proceeds going to habitat for humanity) and there's several smaller venues (seeing a silver mt zion next month!) as well as some music festivals like transfigurations, all go west, the bele chere festival has 4 stages (cracker played there last year) and downtown after 5 (1 week a month a block downtown is closed off and bands play and beer and food is sold), the drive-by truckers played a free show outside a record store in town on record store day.....there's even a drum circle every friday downtown
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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