Gingrich: Tea Party will become ‘militant wing’ of GOP
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Former President Bill Clinton got into trouble with conservatives after he compared today's political climate with the climate preceding the Oklahoma City bombing. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich seems to be having a moment of his own: in a little-noticed appearance Wednesday, he suggested that the Tea Party will become the "militant wing of the Republican Party."
But this time, conservatives aren't up in arms.
While speaking at an event in York County, Pennsylvania Wednesday, Gingrich left some in the audience scratching their heads. According to the The York Dispatch, Gingrich said the movement is a "natural expression of frustration with Republicans and anger at Democrats," which is "more likely to end up as the militant wing of the Republican Party" than a third party.
A resident who attended the speech disagreed. "I wouldn't use the word 'militant," she said.
While liberals may be surprised at Gingrich's characterization, Politics Daily D.C. Bureau Chief David Corn thinks that Gingrich didn't see it as an insult. "I think there's always been a split personalty between the newt that wants to see himself as a statesman and the newt that wants to see himself as a bomb thrower," Corn told MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell Thursday.
"But the important thing you hear is that he's talking about the Tea Party as an extension of the Republican Party. Which polls show, it is," said Corn.
Bill Clinton recently warned that Tea Party anger could incite right wing extremism.
"Before the bombing occurred, there was a sort of fever in America," Clinton said at a symposium on the bombing's 15th anniversary. "Meanwhile, the fabric of American life had been unraveling. More and more people who had a hard time figuring out where they fit in, it is true that we see some of that today."
Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh fired back at Clinton, saying that he'd be to blame if right wing extremists became violent.
"I'm going to state right now, if there is a future incident such as Oklahoma City the blame is squarely on the shoulders of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama," Limbaugh said.
Limbaugh has been silent on Gingrich's remarks.
Former President Bill Clinton got into trouble with conservatives after he compared today's political climate with the climate preceding the Oklahoma City bombing. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich seems to be having a moment of his own: in a little-noticed appearance Wednesday, he suggested that the Tea Party will become the "militant wing of the Republican Party."
But this time, conservatives aren't up in arms.
While speaking at an event in York County, Pennsylvania Wednesday, Gingrich left some in the audience scratching their heads. According to the The York Dispatch, Gingrich said the movement is a "natural expression of frustration with Republicans and anger at Democrats," which is "more likely to end up as the militant wing of the Republican Party" than a third party.
A resident who attended the speech disagreed. "I wouldn't use the word 'militant," she said.
While liberals may be surprised at Gingrich's characterization, Politics Daily D.C. Bureau Chief David Corn thinks that Gingrich didn't see it as an insult. "I think there's always been a split personalty between the newt that wants to see himself as a statesman and the newt that wants to see himself as a bomb thrower," Corn told MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell Thursday.
"But the important thing you hear is that he's talking about the Tea Party as an extension of the Republican Party. Which polls show, it is," said Corn.
Bill Clinton recently warned that Tea Party anger could incite right wing extremism.
"Before the bombing occurred, there was a sort of fever in America," Clinton said at a symposium on the bombing's 15th anniversary. "Meanwhile, the fabric of American life had been unraveling. More and more people who had a hard time figuring out where they fit in, it is true that we see some of that today."
Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh fired back at Clinton, saying that he'd be to blame if right wing extremists became violent.
"I'm going to state right now, if there is a future incident such as Oklahoma City the blame is squarely on the shoulders of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama," Limbaugh said.
Limbaugh has been silent on Gingrich's remarks.
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WHAT??
Oklahoma is squarely on the shoulders of Tim McVeigh, you a-hole. Austin is on the shoulders of Joe Stack. You don't get to kill people and then say "it was their own fault I had to do it". Sounds like an abuser who after beating his wife up tells her that it was her fault because she just made him soooo maaaaaddd! :evil:
Of course he has.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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but as different as ted nugent and Gandhi
Tea Party is to Republicans as MoveOn.org is to Democrats. Extreme ends, polar opposites.
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Will you please explain this? I don't know a whole lot about MoveOn.org, but I was on their mailing list for awhile and don't recall every being asked to become militant. :?
That's why I said as different as Nugent and Gandhi. One kind of a lunatic and the other peaceful.
That's kind of how I see it too.
Just that both are on the extreme ends of the political spectrum... that's all. Maybe militant isn't the correct adjective for both... more like the vocal wing of what can be perceived as extremist viewpoints. I can't imagine anyone from MoveOn.org supporting something, such as the Arizona Immigrant Law, that Tea Partiers support, almost en masse... just as I can't imagine anyone from the Tea Party ever voting for a Democrat. Neither side is moderate and, I believe, neither side is compromising. Like opposite poles of a magnet, they can never be brought together.
And remember... mirror images are opposites.
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Thanks.
But, isn't lunacy in the eye of the extremist? Anti-abortion murderers think they are fighting the good fight and that their actions are justified and others are crazy for not seeing the same thing they see. Similar to the way Islamic extremists see their violent methods as a worthy means to justify their ends. Both will see themselves as the middle ground.
My guess... Tea Partiers hated the Cindy Sheehan war protestors, but cannot see that thay are doing the exact same thing, except, delivering their message. That is my viewpoint... from somewhere in the middle of the scale.
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And that's fine if that is what they want. But I wish they would just admit it. They are not some up and coming third party that is going to radically change the political process here,
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Because they Tea Party may have started out being just about taxes, but now have started to mix in social issues like abortion and religion, other political issues like immigration. Heavy military spending is a core Republican belief (Democrats too it seems). All of this is just making them seem more and more like loud Republicans than any sort of agents of change.
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the tea party is definitely orchestrated by the GOP ... i mean, these guys rigged two elections without anyone blinking ...
what i'd love to know is the education levels of the average tea-partier
The problem is, that on some grassroots level, many of the people who got involved early weren't necessarily republicans. When I first started reading about the tea party thing, it seemed like a positive thing - "taxes are too high, and the government spends too much". We can pretty much all agree on that, and after the bailouts, people (from all political stripes) were getting more and more pissed off and got pulled into the "movement".
Little did they know that the republican party was pretty much pouring money into it, and would be hitching their wagon to it. I think now, a lot of the moderate people are getting turned off, and they are being replaced by the right wing crazies.
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“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
The teabaggers original message got detoured by the GOP. It was easy in this climate of Wall Street's banking greed, major corporations failing, the continuation of wars in the Middle East, and a black President.
The GOP was deflated, so it infiltrated the teabaggers and preyed upon their fears. There is nothing in America like patriotism to turn fear into hate and the GOP is at their best when using fear as a tactic.
The GOP, FOX Entertainment and its mouth pieces haven't done a damn thing to improve teabaggers' quality of life, instead they've labeled them as militants and trusted that the teabaggers would be dumb enough to wear it as a badge of honor, and THEY HAVE.
Look at the voices who have betrayed your message.
-Sara Palin, walked out on her governorship to become another multimillionaire diva by playing on your fears, just like Beck, Hannity and Rush.
-Scott Brown, you thought you elected a teabagger and all you got was whore. He has made it clear that he has no loyalty to anyone but his own personal agenda and he will side with any party and any corporate sponsor to get to the White House..
-Cheney, his only interest is war and oil by any means necessary.
-McCain, destroyed and abandoned by his own party.
-Steele, the GOP jester.
-GOP elected politicians, the party of No, afraid to hold public debates. Their power is limited to talking points and sound bites and mostly just dumb-down nonsense. Yet, the GOP makes it sound good when they add God, and the Constitution in mix.
"Tea Party supporters are wealthier and more well-educated than the general public, and are no more or less afraid of falling into a lower socioeconomic class, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll."
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us/po ... 5poll.html
interesting considering the tea party people they quoted didn't have very intelligent things to say ... unless they were taken out of context for effect ...
Which begs the question... If they are more well-educated... then WHY are they so easily swayed?
They were swayed to believe that there would be Death Panel Squads, killing granny... swayed to believe there would be a televised indoctrination of their school children to Socialism... swayed to believe the Swine Flu vaccination was some sort of Government plan for mind control or some crazy shit... and swayed to believe our economic ills stem from Mexicans, making sub-standard wages, yet support Wall Street millionaire douchebags should remain un-regulated.
And the topper...swayed to believ that Sarah Palin would be a good President!!!
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WHAT education systems leads us to this?
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