Ten Club Suggestion

Aliveguy1Aliveguy1 Posts: 50
edited June 2008 in The Porch
I realize that not everyone is as insane about collecting posters as I am (been getting them since 96), but I DO know that many people would like to have posters from every show they go to.

Is it really that hard, that when you purchase your ticket, you can have the option of also purchasing a poster for that show? I think that would make ALOT of people happy.

What does everyone think?
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,754
    Id like it. but its easy for me to say. im in the 10c, and I dont have to do the organizing.
  • PatrickBatemanPatrickBateman Posts: 2,243
    great idea
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  • thunderDANthunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    Aliveguy1 wrote:
    I realize that not everyone is as insane about collecting posters as I am (been getting them since 96), but I DO know that many people would like to have posters from every show they go to.

    Is it really that hard, that when you purchase your ticket, you can have the option of also purchasing a poster for that show? I think that would make ALOT of people happy.

    What does everyone think?

    to be honest, I don't think 10c expected posters to be that big of a deal and stir up trouble the way it does. If you take flippers out of it so they can't buy them, it is perfectly reasonable to assume that everyone that wants one could get one either at the show or through 10c sale- but the problem is probably 45% of people that buy them buy them with the intentions of selling them. But really 10c sales are fairly easy- I don't see a single poster on this tour so far that you shouldn't be able to get easily through 10c (nothing is on the level of Kenyon Hall or Dusseldorf as far as the demand)
  • Lukin66Lukin66 Posts: 3,063
    great idea
    I agree, I think this is a fantastic idea. I've just heard too many horror stories lately...
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  • thunderDANthunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    Lukin66 wrote:
    I agree, I think this is a fantastic idea. I've just heard too many horror stories lately...

    can you imagine though telling the founding father of 10c back in 1990-91 that in they year 2008 people would be fighting eachother to pay $25-$70 for a poster...it's sorta crazy posters have gotten as big as they have
  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    thunderDAN wrote:
    to be honest, I don't think 10c expected posters to be that big of a deal and stir up trouble the way it does. If you take flippers out of it so they can't buy them, it is perfectly reasonable to assume that everyone that wants one could get one either at the show or through 10c sale- but the problem is probably 45% of people that buy them buy them with the intentions of selling them. But really 10c sales are fairly easy- I don't see a single poster on this tour so far that you shouldn't be able to get easily through 10c (nothing is on the level of Kenyon Hall or Dusseldorf as far as the demand)

    They must know... that's probably why they did the wristbands this time around. I'm not griping, I'm just saying they're probably aware and are obviously trying to do something about it. The solution, as has been posted a million times before, is to make more available both at shows and online. That's the only way everyone will get one and put an end to all the scalping and craziness at shows...
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  • corduroidcorduroid Posts: 293
    This is an excellent suggestion, hope 10c picks up on it. Good one ;)
  • i think that's why they put the posters for sale on the 10c site for 10c members only.

    either that or have hired 10c staff handle JUST the posters as it seems most of the corruption comes from those staffing the merch tables.. sell them inside only. show your ticket to get a wrist band....etc.
  • HollisBrownHollisBrown Posts: 4,325
    Aliveguy1 wrote:
    I realize that not everyone is as insane about collecting posters as I am (been getting them since 96), but I DO know that many people would like to have posters from every show they go to.

    Is it really that hard, that when you purchase your ticket, you can have the option of also purchasing a poster for that show? I think that would make ALOT of people happy.

    What does everyone think?
    You would then have to give the option to all who buy thru 10C. Therefor, the artist would then have to produce 1000+ of every poster. If that was the case then we probably wouldn't be having this discussion as there would be plenty for all.
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  • the wolfthe wolf Posts: 7,027
    i made this same suggestion back in 2000, and then again in 2006 after my 14 year old nephew was knocked over by some big drunk guy, and his poster stolen from him.

    it is a great idea, and some thought should be put into this. it would also take away lots of tension at the shows.
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  • PatrickBatemanPatrickBateman Posts: 2,243
    I am not a poster nut, but I would like a poster of the shows I went to now that I have a house and my own little jam room to hang stuff like this in. The only poster I have is from Hartford 06. I don't have posters from any other shows i went to.
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  • angryyoungmanangryyoungman Medford, NY Posts: 1,028
    never understood the poster fascination. . .what do you guys do with them?
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  • thebettermanthebetterman Posts: 657
    never understood the poster fascination. . .what do you guys do with them?

    I use them as paper plates.
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  • PatrickBatemanPatrickBateman Posts: 2,243
    never understood the poster fascination. . .what do you guys do with them?
    I framed it with my ticket and hung it in my jam room
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  • HollisBrownHollisBrown Posts: 4,325
    The only poster I have is from Hartford 06. I don't have posters from any other shows i went to.
    If you're interested and I have them, you can have them for my cost.
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  • thunderDANthunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    DeLukin wrote:
    They must know... that's probably why they did the wristbands this time around. I'm not griping, I'm just saying they're probably aware and are obviously trying to do something about it. The solution, as has been posted a million times before, is to make more available both at shows and online. That's the only way everyone will get one and put an end to all the scalping and craziness at shows...

    I might see them making wristbands available for purchase with your tickets..but you still get them at the show
  • thebettermanthebetterman Posts: 657
    thunderDAN wrote:
    I might see them making wristbands available for purchase with your tickets..but you still get them at the show

    It wasn't much easier to buy ten club tickets to the MSG shows... I don't think they'll ever sell posters prior to the show.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,341
    Leave it the way it is.

    The wrist band thing is great. And from what I hear, only MSG was a problem.
    And that was because it was locally mismanaged.
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,754
    Im trying to collect posters from each show I have been to, plus Dusseldorf eventually.
    So far I just have the 2 Camdens. But I would really like to continue to get these at each show.
  • PatrickBatemanPatrickBateman Posts: 2,243
    If you're interested and I have them, you can have them for my cost.
    pm'd

    granted, I am not a poster fanatic, but for a reasonable price for a poster, I would be interested
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  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    thunderDAN wrote:
    I might see them making wristbands available for purchase with your tickets..but you still get them at the show

    Yea but I don't get that thinking... if someone who doesn't go to a show wants a poster, and you can only get them at shows, then even if there are plenty for the people at the show there are still gonna be people wanting them who can't get them. That demand will lead to people buying them to turn a quick buck, which leads to shortages in supply, etc etc. It's economics 101. There is only a problem because demand > supply.
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  • thunderDANthunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    DeLukin wrote:
    Yea but I don't get that thinking... if someone who doesn't go to a show wants a poster, and you can only get them at shows, then even if there are plenty for the people at the show there are still gonna be people wanting them who can't get them. That demand will lead to people buying them to turn a quick buck, which leads to shortages in supply, etc etc. It's economics 101. There is only a problem because demand > supply.

    no I mean like when presales happen you can buy '2 tickets' or '2 tickets /poster'
    then when you go pick them up at the box office there will be a wristband in there for you (and before you ask, one per 10c member)
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,341
    thunderDAN wrote:
    no I mean like when presales happen you can buy '2 tickets' or '2 tickets /poster'
    then when you go pick them up at the box office there will be a wristband in there for you (and before you ask, one per 10c member)
    so they should just print more? how do you distribute them when there are more ticket holders than posters?

    Id rather the 10c spend its time securing more 10C tix at each venue.
  • thunderDANthunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    Get_Right wrote:
    so they should just print more? how do you distribute them when there are more ticket holders than posters?

    Id rather the 10c spend its time securing more 10C tix at each venue.

    but not all 10c people that go to a show want a poster.

    Here is what you do:

    say there are 1,000 for each show (allot 600 for show 400 for 10c sale after)

    1. during presales offer 1 poster for each pair of 10c seats
    2. sell whatever is left from the show allotment at the show
    3. sell the rest through 10c


    I'm just discussing the theory- but it won't happen. I think the wristbands were made so you didn't have to carry it around all show and so people would stop trying to bring tubes into the gates. I never have a problem getting a poster I desire. If I fail at a show, I get one through 10c, and if I can't get one that way, I get one through 10c and trade it for one that I want... it's actually quite easy
  • Stephen FlowStephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    I was saying this the other night to some fans in the poster line.

    It's an awesome idea and would take out the middleman (the concession stand)

    What they should do is after the ticket and poster orders are taken they go and make that many

    PLUS an additional amount to sell at shows for people who might want them there.

    Posters should be sold like these bootlegs, made to order.
  • Stephen FlowStephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    thunderDAN wrote:
    but not all 10c people that go to a show want a poster.

    Here is what you do:

    say there are 1,000 for each show (allot 600 for show 400 for 10c sale after)

    1. during presales offer 1 poster for each pair of 10c seats
    2. sell whatever is left from the show allotment at the show
    3. sell the rest through 10c


    I'm just discussing the theory- but it won't happen. I think the wristbands were made so you didn't have to carry it around all show and so people would stop trying to bring tubes into the gates. I never have a problem getting a poster I desire. If I fail at a show, I get one through 10c, and if I can't get one that way, I get one through 10c and trade it for one that I want... it's actually quite easy

    exactly.
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,341
    thunderDAN wrote:
    but not all 10c people that go to a show want a poster.
    no but make them easier to get and more people would buy.
    thunderDAN wrote:
    I'm just discussing the theory- but it won't happen. I think the wristbands were made so you didn't have to carry it around all show and so people would stop trying to bring tubes into the gates. I never have a problem getting a poster I desire. If I fail at a show, I get one through 10c, and if I can't get one that way, I get one through 10c and trade it for one that I want... it's actually quite easy

    the wrist bands are to prevent multiple purchases. the after show pick up is to prevent damage and carrying of tubes

    Same here, with the exception of the borgata (bought a signed copy auctioned off for charity-and paid a bit more) I have obtained all the ones I wanted at reasonable prices.
    Thats why I dont see a reason to change the current system. The wrist band idea is great. The vendors at msg are corrupt-no surprise there. But I was able to get a camden 1 no problem at 8:30-and I think its the best one yet and the only klausen so far.

    I appreciate what they have done with the wristbands, but Id rather ahve them focus on securing a greater percentage of concert tickets for us members.
  • thunderDANthunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    I was saying this the other night to some fans in the poster line.

    It's an awesome idea and would take out the middleman (the concession stand)

    What they should do is after the ticket and poster orders are taken they go and make that many

    PLUS an additional amount to sell at shows for people who might want them there.

    Posters should be sold like these bootlegs, made to order.

    well see there is a paradox with 10c and the whole poster thing: on one hand they only want to make them limited so they are valuable and hold their value, but you are told you can not resell them... so I guess if the 2nd theory is gold then your idea to print as many as are demanded should be put into place
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,341

    Posters should be sold like these bootlegs, made to order.

    I do not agree that they should increase the print runs.
    I like having a limited item. Strange perhaps, but true nonetheless.
  • jackwvuujackwvuu Posts: 42
    ALOT is actually 2 words...a lot
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