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musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
edited April 2010 in Other Music
can any of you music theorists help me out?

I love parts in songs where one person is singing the chorus, and then another person at the same time is singing a verse, or maybe another part of the song.
Is this a countermelody? Counter harmonizing?

to give some examples
blink 182-feeling this- from 2:08 on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImvyMwLlb7U

you have tom doing the main chorus "fate fell short this time your smile fades in the summer", and then at the same time there is also mark doing a different part at the same time. What is this called?

another example

Keane-a bad day from 3:12 on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5l-GSDo72c

You have the line "for a lonely soul youre having such a nice time", and then counter to that, at the same time, is "nothing in my way, i dont wanna go, i dont wanna stay"

what is this called?
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  • MK1980MK1980 Nottingham, UK Posts: 291
    It is called a 'canon'
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    My favourite demonstration of this is "Kid Fears" by the Indigo Girls featuring Michael Stipe. Absolutely amazing.
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  • Leathe?ma?Leathe?ma? Яussia Posts: 354
    oh i like this in FNM' midlife crisis, at the end of the song
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    "Jocko says yes and I believe him"
    "Lonely feelin, deep inside"

    The best....

    Queen, Beatles and Beach Boys own this.
  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    the indigo girls michael stipe song reminds me of this summer, after owning the first few REM records, I finally listened to them for the first time. Alot of the early stuff relied on canon, and i loved that.

    Harborcoat is a great example

    i love canon because it sounds so beautiful.
  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,953
    musicismylife78 wrote:
    the indigo girls michael stipe song reminds me of this summer, after owning the first few REM records, I finally listened to them for the first time. Alot of the early stuff relied on canon, and i loved that.

    Harborcoat is a great example

    i love canon because it sounds so beautiful.


    I'm pretty sure it's a noun though (not a pronoun)
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  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    who the hell cares. unless you have an opinion on the subject at hand, politely leave. thanks. buh bye!
  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    cough...jerk...cough....
  • the wolfthe wolf Posts: 7,027
    LeatheЯmaИ wrote:
    oh i like this in FNM' midlife crisis, at the end of the song

    that is fucking amazing. i agree 100%
    Peace, Love.

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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,953
    musicismylife78 wrote:
    cough...jerk...cough....

    I was helping you out...not sure why that makes me a jerk :roll:
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  • the wolfthe wolf Posts: 7,027
    this goes on all over the place on the Verves "urban hymns" record. good stuff.
    Peace, Love.

    "To question your government is not unpatriotic --
    to not question your government is unpatriotic."
    -- Sen. Chuck Hagel
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    mookeywrench wrote:
    musicismylife78 wrote:
    cough...jerk...cough....

    I was helping you out...not sure why that makes me a jerk :roll:

    Maybe b/c you don't know what a pronoun is?
  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,953
    DewieCox wrote:
    mookeywrench wrote:
    musicismylife78 wrote:
    cough...jerk...cough....

    I was helping you out...not sure why that makes me a jerk :roll:

    Maybe b/c you don't know what a pronoun is?

    a name refering to a noun

    Noun: The use of a canon in a song is cool

    Pronoun: Harborcoat is a great example
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    mookeywrench wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    mookeywrench wrote:

    I was helping you out...not sure why that makes me a jerk :roll:

    Maybe b/c you don't know what a pronoun is?

    a name refering to a noun

    Noun: The use of a canon in a song is cool

    Pronoun: Harborcoat is a great example

    -1 they're used to replace nouns....he, shit, it, they, them, that

    canon is a noun, no?
  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,953
    refering = replacing
    six one way; half a dozen the other
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