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ClutchingBenjaminsClutchingBenjamins Posts: 34
edited April 2010 in The Porch
Good to see Ed has some friends in high places 8-)

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manh ... XPhmClgbSP


Judge backs Vedder vocals

Pearl Jam frontman Eddie Vedder may have sung "gibberish" when he covered an obscure Canadian musician's only hit, but the changed words probably don't amount to copyright infringement, a judge said yesterday.

Manhattan federal Judge Richard Sullivan said prior cases "appear to allow a lot more change than occurred" to "Hard Sun" by Gordon Peterson, who's suing Vedder for altering the lyrics.
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  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    Great News!
  • OGT92OGT92 Posts: 1,588
    When I first heard of the suit I thought it was pathetic to begin with. Good for EV.
    "I read about the evils of drinking, so I gave up reading." - Henry Youngman
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Do you think Ed's even going to want to sing this jackass's song again?

    I hadn't even heard of the guy before Into The Wild and actually gave his version a listen and enjoyed it. I'm sure Ed's effort has been nothing but positive for this guys exposure, and this is his thanks?
  • the wolfthe wolf Posts: 7,027
    I'm sure Ed don't even care. It's part of the business.
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  • LizardLizard Posts: 12,091
    :thumbup:
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • goingtoveronagoingtoverona Posts: 616
    is it possible that the original artist doesn't care that ed used his song and that the suit was brought about by some record company (probably struggling) desperate to get any cashflow? just because home skillet wrote the song doesn't mean he owns it right?
    if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    goingtoverona wrote:
    is it possible that the original artist doesn't care that ed used his song and that the suit was brought about by some record company (probably struggling) desperate to get any cashflow? just because home skillet wrote the song doesn't mean he owns it right?

    No.

    From Wiki: (also corroborates what I read in the past about Peterson being unhappy himself.

    Peterson re-emerged into the public when he filed a lawsuit in December, 2009 against Pearl Jam's Eddie Vedder, alleging infringement resulting from usage and alteration of Hard Sun without Peterson's permission, although Universal Music, Peterson's former label, granted permission. Vedder recorded the song for the Sean Penn-directed movie Into The Wild.[3]
  • PJammer4lifePJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,645
    Does this mean we may POSSIBLY see Ed's 2008 boots or DVD from the solo shows released now that this legal stuff is past?? Chicago was awesome(loved ship song and hurt plus new betterman) LA 1 was incredible...so many great shows out there....
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  • ryanrunningryanrunning Posts: 427
    what lyrics were changed?
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  • vedderfan10vedderfan10 Posts: 2,497
    Nobody really won here....(other than the lawyers)

    But if it was the other way around, people would be screaming....

    Hard Sun was a massive hit in Canada in 1989 - HUGE - played on the radio and video on MMM ALL the time... And, to myself and a bunch of my friends, Ed's lyric changes were VERY obvious...I still really liked the Ed version, but I kinda thought that Gordon Peterson (Indio) would not have been amused - and actually wondered how they got permission from him considering nobody knew where he was.... I also think that as an artist, Ed understands all about musical integrity...and that this was not a cash grab or a ploy to get attention...The song has not received any significant increase airplay because of this...and Indio's album is no longer available...
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  • helplessdancerhelplessdancer Posts: 5,272
    the wolf wrote:
    I'm sure Ed don't even care. It's part of the business.

    so true. and the lawyers are the ones making the money

    i wonder what ever happened with radiohead and satriani? i know there was an out of court settlement but...

    its all about the lawyers

    its not ed's/pj's first time being sued. or his last.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Vedderfan10 wrote:
    Nobody really won here....(other than the lawyers)

    But if it was the other way around, people would be screaming....

    Hard Sun was a massive hit in Canada in 1989 - HUGE - played on the radio and video on MMM ALL the time... And, to myself and a bunch of my friends, Ed's lyric changes were VERY obvious...I still really liked the Ed version, but I kinda thought that Gordon Peterson (Indio) would not have been amused - and actually wondered how they got permission from him considering nobody knew where he was.... I also think that as an artist, Ed understands all about musical integrity...and that this was not a cash grab or a ploy to get attention...The song has not received any significant increase airplay because of this...and Indio's album is no longer available...
    you dont have to get permission, just pay royalties.

    and anyone who sues because someone else changed a few lyrics when they sang a cover is an absolute douche. i would never do that.
  • OGT92OGT92 Posts: 1,588
    goingtoverona wrote:
    is it possible that the original artist doesn't care that ed used his song and that the suit was brought about by some record company (probably struggling) desperate to get any cashflow? just because home skillet wrote the song doesn't mean he owns it right?

    I am sure Ed got the okay to use the song before he even went forward with it. Just my thoughts.
    "I read about the evils of drinking, so I gave up reading." - Henry Youngman
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    OGT92 wrote:
    goingtoverona wrote:
    is it possible that the original artist doesn't care that ed used his song and that the suit was brought about by some record company (probably struggling) desperate to get any cashflow? just because home skillet wrote the song doesn't mean he owns it right?

    I am sure Ed got the okay to use the song before he even went forward with it. Just my thoughts.
    i dont think he did.
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    PJammer4life wrote:
    Does this mean we may POSSIBLY see Ed's 2008 boots or DVD from the solo shows released now that this legal stuff is past?? Chicago was awesome(loved ship song and hurt plus new betterman) LA 1 was incredible...so many great shows out there....

    +1 Jersey '08
  • washedinblack91washedinblack91 Posts: 3,078
    http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/i ... c-changes/

    says that universal was also sued for not getting permission before licensing the song
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