Newt Gingrich

KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
edited April 2010 in A Moving Train
I am starting to get really tired of his resurgence

obviously he is riding on the coattails of Sarah Palin

the other day he described the Obama administration as a "secular socialist machine"

do you think anyone he was talking to knew what that meant :roll:
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  • StarfallStarfall Posts: 548
    He's still holding a grudge I see....

    Newt-Gingrich-Cry-Baby-Post.jpg
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  • RB112589RB112589 Posts: 98
    Yep... ;)
  • Reading what he says makes me laugh. Plus his names good for a chuckle :D I (an Australian) thought having a leader called kevin was bad enough; you guys could end up with a President Newt.
  • KDH12 wrote:
    I am starting to get really tired of his resurgence

    obviously he is riding on the coattails of Sarah Palin

    the other day he described the Obama administration as a "secular socialist machine"

    do you think anyone he was talking to knew what that meant :roll:


    What coat tails? . I happen to like Newt and I agree with him on a lot of things,and I think he gives a very acurate description of Obama.
  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    secular socialist machine is accurate?

    agree or disagree with obama's policies, i don't care, but that is not accurate

    so you think that it is coincidence that Newt is everywhere Palin is right now?

    Nope, he knows that staying close to her will keep popular in the public opinion of Republicans, get him media attention and sound bites.... now they are saying he might run in 2012


    yes coattails
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  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Newt is and has always been a turd.

    http://www.realchange.org/gingrich.htm

    Adultery:
    Sex on the Desk - Oral Sex is More Easily Denied
    Several newspapers are now reporting that Newt Gingrich is dating and basically living with Callista Bisek, a "willowy blond Congressional aide 23 years his junior." Biske, 33, has been spending nights at Gingrich's apartment near the Capitol and has her own key. In an amazing act of hypocrisy, Gingrich was apparently dating Bisek all during Clinton-Lewinsky adultery scandal, even as he proclaimed family values and bitterly criticized the President for his adultery.

    Reporters and other Washington insiders have known about this relationship since 1994, even before Gingrich became Speaker of the House, but did not have any solid proof to report. In 1995, Vanity Fair magazine described Bisek as Gingrich's "frequent breakfast companion." Gingrich was married to Marianne Gingrich during all of that time, and just filed for divorce in August 1999.

    Newt is apparently trying to create a new hybrid form, Christian adultery. According to MSNBC, Bisek sings in the National Shrine Choir, and Newt would often wait for her at the Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, listening to her sing while he read the Bible.

    This is hardly the first time Newt has cheated, either. "It was common knowledge that Newt was involved with other women during his [first] marriage to Jackie. Maybe not on the level of John Kennedy. But he had girlfriends -- some serious, some trivial." -- Dot Crews, his campaign scheduler throughout the 70s. One woman, Anne Manning, has come forward and confirmed a relationship with him during the 1976 campaign. "We had oral sex. He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, 'I never slept with her.'"

    Kip Carter, his former campaign treasurer, was walking Newt's daughters back from a football game one day and cut across a driveway where he saw a car. "As I got to the car, I saw Newt in the passenger seat and one of the guys' wives with her head in his lap going up and down. Newt kind of turned and gave me this little-boy smile. Fortunately, Jackie Sue and Kathy were a lot younger and shorter then."


    Family Values? Pressing Wife for Divorce in the Hospital:
    "He walked out in the spring of 1980.... By September, I went into the hospital for my third surgery. The two girls came to see me, and said, "Daddy is downstairs. Could he come up?" When he got there, he wanted to discuss the terms of the divorce while I was recovering from my surgery." - Jackie, his first wife.
    Dead-Beat Dad:
    The hospital visit wasn't the end of it, either. Jackie had to take Newt to court to get him to contribute for bills, as utilities were about to be cut off.
    Draft Dodger:
    Though he relentlessly pushes military spending and talks like a bigtime hawk, Gingrich avoided the Vietnam War through a combination of student and family deferments. (He married one of his teachers at age 19.)

    Problems With Women?
    Newt pressed his first wife to sign divorce papers while she was still in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery. He also graciously said "She isn't young enough or pretty enough to be the President's wife." But his second marriage hasn't been that smooth either. Newt and Marianne have been separated - "frankly", she told the Washington Post in June 1989, "it's been on and off for some time."
    Does Newt have some kind of problem with women? He has said that he read a book called "Men Who Hate Women and the Women Who Love Them", and "found frightening pieces that related to my own life."

    Incidentally, Marianne told Gail Sheehy she doesn't want Newt to run for President. " I told him if I'm not in agreement, fine, it's easy. I just go on the air the next day, and I undermine everything. ... I don't want him to be president and I don't think he should be." Newt's response? Marianne "was just making the point hypothetically" that he would not run unless she agreed he should.


    House Banking Scandal: Newt Bounced 22 Checks
    Remember the House Banking scandal, where so many congressmen wrote rubber checks on government money? Newt hopes you don't, because he bounced 22 himself, which almost cost him reelection in 1992. His vote for the secret House pay raise, and the chauffeur who drove him around Washington in a Lincoln Town Car, didn't help.

    Lucrative and Questionable Book Deals: Murdoch's $4.5 Million wasn't the first


    The 1995 Murdoch Deal --- The 1984 Book Deal


    The 1995 Murdoch Deal
    You probably heard something about Newt's book scandal. He was offered first $2.5 million, then $4.5 million by Harper Collins, a publishing company owned by Rupert Murdoch, who also owns the Fox TV network and newspapers and TV stations around the world. Murdoch has been having problems with a complaint by NBC that Fox is a foreign owned TV network, which is against US law.
    In the past, Harper Collins has offered million dollar book contracts to several conservative politicians in countries where Murdoch was having regulatory trouble, including England (Margaret Thatcher, Jeffrey Archer) and China (Deng Xiaoping's daughter). A week after the initial offer, Newt met with Rupert Murdoch - and Murdoch's legislative lobbyist - to discuss politics, including the NBC complaint. As facts about the deal were made public, and even Republicans criticized him, Gingrich decided to give up the $4.5 million advance for a still-lucrative deal based on royalties.

    Gingrich's story kept changing through the controversy. First, Newt's spokesman said that Murdoch knew nothing about Gingrich and the book deal. On Friday January 13, Newt's spokesman admitted that Murdoch actually met Newt on a park bench the week before the deal was made, but didn't talk about it. He also said he knew nothing about Murdoch's lobbyist being at their meeting. The next day, he admitted the lobbyist was there, but claimed he didn't say so because no one asked.

    Newt also said repeatedly that the book wasn't his idea; that a literary agent named Lynn Chu had sought him out and proposed it. After Ms. Chu said that Gingrich's associate Jeff Eisenach called her first on Newt's behalf, Eisenach and Newt's spokesman admitted that was true.


    The 1984 Book Deal
    Murdoch's book deal wasn't the first lucrative and controversial book deal Newt engineered. In 1983 he established a limited partnership in Atlanta called COS Limited, which pulled together about two dozen of his biggest campaign contributors to finance his book.
    The former administrator of his congressional offices in Georgia, Dolores Adamson, resigned over the deal. "The manuscript was put together in the district office using office equipment," she said. "He would just come in and say 'This is what I want to do.' I would say, 'This is not ethical," but after a while he didn't listen." That office equipment, of course, was paid for by US taxpayers including you.


    GOPAC sleaze: Taxpayer subsidies for his partisan campaign course.
    Newt in his poltical career was the king of using tax-payer subsidized donations for his personal and political purposes. He stooped so low as to hijack not one but two charities for poor inner city kids and use their donations for his personal goals.
    GOPAC, Newt's longtime political action committee, was the centerpiece of a complex network of non-profit, and mostly tax exempt organizations that Newt has used to support himself and other conservative candidates. In an act of incredible hypocrisy, this crusader against taxes obtained taxpayer subsidies for his personal and political goals, by misusuing these tax-exempt groups.

    For example, one GOPAC document said that its goal for the 1990s was "to both create and disseminate the doctrine of a majority Republican party." In another GOPAC document, titled "Key Factors in a House GOP Majority," Gingrich wrote "It is more powerful and more effective to develop a reform movement parallel to the official Republican party", instead of using the party structure, because it would get more attention and be more credible. Shortly thereafter, GOPAC paid for a television program promoting a "grassroots" movement to reform government; publicly they claimed it was nonpartisan, but private internal documents made its partisan goals clear.

    After it got expensive, Gingrich transferred the program to the "Abraham Lincoln Opportunity Foundation," a tax-exempt group controlled by a GOPAC official named Bo Callaway. It had been set up years earlier to help inner city kids, which is why it was tax exempt. The group spent $260,000 on the television program in 1990. That same year, Newt started another tax-exempt group that paid poor students for reading books. He bragged of this in many a political speech. But after the first two years, most of this foundation's money went to Mel Steely, a former Gingrich aide who is now Newt's official biographer.

    The best known effort was a college course (titled "Renewing American Civilization") at a third-rate college that Gingrich nakedly used to recruit and organize conservative candidates, and to feed them his carefully constructed ideology and political slogans.

    Of course, using tax-exempt educational or charitable donations for partisan purposes is illegal, and several ethics complaints were filed against Gingrich. He agreed to pay a $300,000 fine for misleading the committee during the investigation, and in the process dodged conviction on the actual charges through a combination of finessing some legal definitions, sheer self-confidence and raw political power (as Speaker of the House at the time of the complaints, he appointed the ethics committee. Furthermore, GOPAC had one ethics committee member on its roster last session, and gave money to another.)

    The Ethics Committee dropped its final charges against Gingrich not long before he resigned as speaker, despite finding that Gingrich had in fact violated one rule by repeatedly using a political consultant paid by GOPAC to develop the Republican political agenda, because there was no evidence he was continuing to do so.

    The IRS also started an investigation of one group, the Progress and Freedom Foundation, for violating its tax-exempt status by donating to Gingrich's college course. In the investigation, the special counsel found that these activities were "substantially motivated by partisan political goals." The IRS eventually overruled him, and found that the course "was educational and never favored or opposed a candidate for public office.'' It said the foundation ``did not intervene on behalf of candidates of the Republican Party merely by promoting'' themes in the course. This extremely narrow reading of the law basically said "so what if he used the course to recruit, organize and groom candidates; as long as they didn't say 'Vote for Jones', it wasn't partisan." Despite what Gingrich fans argue, this hardly proves his innocence. The IRS has chickened out before in political cases, notably letting the Church of Scientology completely off the hook in its investigation of that group.


    Corporate reward: $2,500/month to Newt's wife
    According to the Wall Street Journal, a company hired Marianne Gingrich (Newt's wife) for $2,500 a month plus commissions in September 1994 after he announced support for a free trade zone in Israel that they are trying to build. Her "job" for Israel Export Development Co. is to find tenants for the trade zone. Gingrich's spokesman said that since her job did not involve working with the US government, there was no conflict of interest.

    Who Owns Him?
    - Rupert Murdoch (see book deal above)
    - Georgia's Richards family, owners of Southwire Corporate ($1.3 billion/year)
    The Richards lent and donated money and office space to Gingrich from his earliest days in politics. They have given over $100,000, and Gingrich was the first recipient of donations from Southwire's PAC. By coincidence, Gingrich has changed from an environmentalist critic of Southwire to a staunch anti-environmentalist during that time. People with ties to Southwire were instrumental in two earlier lucrative book deals of Gingrich's in 1977 and 1984; the latter was investigated for ethical violations.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    KDH12 wrote:
    secular socialist machine is accurate?

    agree or disagree with obama's policies, i don't care, but that is not accurate

    so you think that it is coincidence that Newt is everywhere Palin is right now?

    Nope, he knows that staying close to her will keep popular in the public opinion of Republicans, get him media attention and sound bites.... now they are saying he might run in 2012


    yes coattails


    he always tries to run (except for 04) but never gets very far
    don't compete; coexist

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  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    hence the coat tails

    he is smart enough I suppose to be seen next to the most popular Republican in the world
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Seems like an intelligent guy, but I do not agree with his social conservatism (not to mention crying 'family values' over Clinton while he was having an affair...)
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Seems like an intelligent guy, but I do not agree with his social conservatism (not to mention crying 'family values' over Clinton while he was having an affair...)
    I agree with you...............but I would not vote for him or anyone (left , right , center)that has been in Washington for a long period of time.....we need new blood in Washington
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,913
    I'm up and down on Newt. Sometimes he impresses me and other times he makes me want to kick his teeth in.

    The socialist comment is one of those teeth kicking comments. Just absurd and with no merit.....he knows better yet he is dipping down to Palin's level.

    He could be a true statesman if he wanted....not by spewing garbage like that though.
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I'm up and down on Newt. Sometimes he impresses me and other times he makes me want to kick his teeth in.

    The socialist comment is one of those teeth kicking comments. Just absurd and with no merit.....he knows better yet he is dipping down to Palin's level.

    He could be a true statesman if he wanted....not by spewing garbage like that though.
    Yeah. I hate seeing smart conservatives sinking down to that level. Like McCain saying there will be 'no co-operation for a year'. That's not being a statesman, that's being a dick.
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  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    part of the problem with a lot of Republican Politicians is that they are all getting old, I suppose that is politicians in general

    that is why Palin is so popular, she is younger a fresh face

    the only way GOP wins in 2012 is if they run a younger sort of politician
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    KDH12 wrote:
    part of the problem with a lot of Republican Politicians is that they are all getting old, I suppose that is politicians in general

    that is why Palin is so popular, she is younger a fresh face

    the only way GOP wins in 2012 is if they run a younger sort of politician
    I think the only viable candidate is Mitt Romney.

    For entertainment value however, I hope Palin runs.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,913
    KDH12 wrote:
    part of the problem with a lot of Republican Politicians is that they are all getting old, I suppose that is politicians in general

    that is why Palin is so popular, she is younger a fresh face

    the only way GOP wins in 2012 is if they run a younger sort of politician
    I think the only viable candidate is Mitt Romney.

    For entertainment value however, I hope Palin runs.

    She would be absolutely ripped to shreds in primaries by other GOP. I don't see that happening. She's making money while she can and she'll eventually disappear.
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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  • mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
    I'm up and down on Newt."

    You did not just say that. Apparantly that's what he prefers!

    Seriously, he is a prick
    Seriously, we do need fresh ideas in Washington, fresh blood, fresh faces.
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

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  • Newt Gingrich is the spawn of the devil and he gave cloacal birth to Sarah Palin in order to extend their progeny. If you see one of their followers approaching you, yell "ZOMBIE" and run or they may try to influence your thoughts with illogical statements based on greed and/or faith. They will try to reset your "moral compass" and support murder if it means furthering their agenda of building McMansions, churches, and Wal-Marts on every square inch of soil while simultaneously ridding the country of all non-white people, secularists and scientists.

    but, that's just like, my opinion... man.
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  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    Newt Gingrich has been irrelevant for a long time. Now that corporations can fund their own candidates, Gingrich is no longer needed by the Republican/Tea party. Gingrich simply inserts himself into party matters to make himself relevant in his own mind.
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  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    KDH12 wrote:
    part of the problem with a lot of Republican Politicians is that they are all getting old, I suppose that is politicians in general

    that is why Palin is so popular, she is younger a fresh face

    the only way GOP wins in 2012 is if they run a younger sort of politician
    I think the only viable candidate is Mitt Romney.

    For entertainment value however, I hope Palin runs.

    She would be absolutely ripped to shreds in primaries by other GOP. I don't see that happening. She's making money while she can and she'll eventually disappear.

    I agree

    but they need a new young face, which they agree and is why they keep throwing up people like Palin, Jindal and Scott Brown etc

    they are searching for some youth but keep striking out

    I suppose the above post is right

    Newt reads the instructions on everything as "insert self here"
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    this past weekend jindal ruled out a run for the whitehouse...i guess that makes more room for newt 3.0...
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