Creed is my favourite band. I really loooooooove them and got all their albums and singles on vinyl.
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don't care much for creed or nickleback
it has nothing to do with my devotion to pj tho
scott and chad both suck imo
and it has nothing to do with my devotion to ed
creed fans...ok,,its the only reason that would make me to support death penalty
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Anyone here like both bands (I am not a fan of both- Just PJ)?
Two different worlds......so funny that the experience and routes of humans can be so different. You know, maybe this question of whether or not we 'like' two self-polarized bands pushed it, but I dont think I've ever thought about the following with much context; how f'n remarkable is it that for nearly twenty years, Pearl Jam's members have all been so consistent with what they stand for and how they judge people and treat fans.....No, I don't know any of them, but I have met all of them and been around them enough to see how brilliant, responsive, humble and graceful they are with adapting to whomever they are talking to.....especially Mike and Ed...meeting Stone, oh man, that is my favorite story of all time,...it wasn't good and it was my doing and fault...another time....
Anyway. If I could chalk it up, I would have to say that, whereas Creed is temporary or incomplete at many levels, Pearl Jam is something far more developed and dynamic/complex....and not just because of their duration or number of albums they have released.....it worked because they are foundationally similar and we were lucky that they embraced the "marriage" early..it took (IMHO) amazing individuals to be so graceful, thoughtful and consistent at the levels they have...no DUIs, no French quarter arrests after catching crotch crickets, no porn star bus videos with Kid Rock, no wife beatings, no hypocritical proselytizing...
Ok,..getting long, but if anyone ever sees my posts, they all are,...why stop that pattern with this post?...MY point earlier,...I hadn't thought about it, and I am sure so many people would argue or deny this for themselves, but I just kinda had an epiphany that the respect I have for PJ is so much bigger than just the music (all my friends say all the stupid shit you all hear and always glance at me when a PJ song comes on in a store or on the radio, waiting for my face to explode as if I had never heard Alive before ......I always (up until now) just say, no, I love the music, dont know a thing about the individuals....)....
My "epiphany" (really bad choice for what I mean) is that since the beginning, whatever it is when I say "PJ", that influence and history has been a solid and positive example of how a person could elect to carry or to not carry themselves...for me, I really see now that through all the years there has been an undefinable gratitude and engrained PJ influence that I could never seperate from my own experience and being...yes, chicken and egg, I get that, obviously something of my (our) compositions resonates or strikes a chord and that makes the connection even more emotional etc......BUT...what I am saying is that I can point now to so many basic philosophies that I watched and selected from as I grew up with this band...everything from being reserved and mysterious, to finding ways to actually express or create words for an emotion that I once thought could only be confined that elusive and chemical feelings inside, to being comfortable with having beliefs and allowing others to disagree, to being charitable and to be for justice at different levels....NO, PJ didn't give me all of this...but it did give perceived examples that I could watch and select from...and, of course, there is the indescribable importance of the music and the created artistic emotion that keeps me connected to all the points of importance or reflections dotted on the path behind me. Nothing connects me to Myself more than this music....it is the emotional photobook with GPS of where I was and where I was or wasn't heading at the time each song entered my blood.......every friend I have ever had has made a joke about how I need to go listen to "your depressing songs"......that semi-misconception is something that can never really be explained; the catalog of this band covers light years of palpable and challenging themes, neutral, positive and negative.,....non-pj-people will forever presume that the music is restricted to a few simple themes..... it is the dark chords and devastating lyrics are just as beautiful and real and somehow optimistic to me as anything I have ever learned from other sources.
So......this all started by a simple question about liking two bands.....I really have negative feelings toward Creed's lead singer...I am sure that is easy to explain, but it has nothing to do with the "rivalry" or comparisons to EV...I actually love/d that song One....but I never had a chance to respect Stapp because of who he is...i trust our band and I respect them for what I believe they are all about. Is that respect simply a false perception, or real??? Getting warm or imagined and completely contrary to reality??......who really knows....but I have a perception and have had enough reinforcement over the past 19 years to feel pretty confident I am here on earth at the right time for ME, and that I am (coupled with the birth of my son) eternally set by this ride....now if I can only get a single ticket somewhere in the front 1 or 1 row to MSG night one...(already have row 2 side stage for Friday)....then my future will be set too.... If anyone got through all of this, I will go ahead and apologize for wasting the last 7 minutes of your life.....I am kinda mad at myself for burning 15 minutes when I could be watching my DVR recording of Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin on Hannities show last night.....gotta balance my heroes.......hoping for a Bachmann Palin ticket for 2012..... (okay...I had a HUGE thought that I will post in politics....)
(and I apologize for the past 28 seconds that were negated from your life that after my first apology) And, no, I dont go back and read what I wrote or look for spelling errors,...I would delete my own account if I ever did....
My name is Matt, I am here all week. You've been great....next time I won't wake up to two red-bulls and the bluish square and large red pills........
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Formally known as Tackalac before being formally known as Vedderwt,,,,....release my old name and posts....
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
Anyone here like both bands (I am not a fan of both- Just PJ)?
Two different worlds......so funny that the experience and routes of humans can be so different. You know, maybe this question of whether or not we 'like' two self-polarized bands pushed it, but I dont think I've ever thought about the following with much context; how f'n remarkable is it that for nearly twenty years, Pearl Jam's members have all been so consistent with what they stand for and how they judge people and treat fans.....No, I don't know any of them, but I have met all of them and been around them enough to see how brilliant, responsive, humble and graceful they are with adapting to whomever they are talking to.....especially Mike and Ed...meeting Stone, oh man, that is my favorite story of all time,...it wasn't good and it was my doing and fault...another time....
Anyway. If I could chalk it up, I would have to say that, whereas Creed is temporary or incomplete at many levels, Pearl Jam is something far more developed and dynamic/complex....and not just because of their duration or number of albums they have released.....it worked because they are foundationally similar and we were lucky that they embraced the "marriage" early..it took (IMHO) amazing individuals to be so graceful, thoughtful and consistent at the levels they have...no DUIs, no French quarter arrests after catching crotch crickets, no porn star bus videos with Kid Rock, no wife beatings, no hypocritical proselytizing...
Ok,..getting long, but if anyone ever sees my posts, they all are,...why stop that pattern with this post?...MY point earlier,...I hadn't thought about it, and I am sure so many people would argue or deny this for themselves, but I just kinda had an epiphany that the respect I have for PJ is so much bigger than just the music (all my friends say all the stupid shit you all hear and always glance at me when a PJ song comes on in a store or on the radio, waiting for my face to explode as if I had never heard Alive before ......I always (up until now) just say, no, I love the music, dont know a thing about the individuals....)....
My "epiphany" (really bad choice for what I mean) is that since the beginning, whatever it is when I say "PJ", that influence and history has been a solid and positive example of how a person could elect to carry or to not carry themselves...for me, I really see now that through all the years there has been an undefinable gratitude and engrained PJ influence that I could never seperate from my own experience and being...yes, chicken and egg, I get that, obviously something of my (our) compositions resonates or strikes a chord and that makes the connection even more emotional etc......BUT...what I am saying is that I can point now to so many basic philosophies that I watched and selected from as I grew up with this band...everything from being reserved and mysterious, to finding ways to actually express or create words for an emotion that I once thought could only be confined that elusive and chemical feelings inside, to being comfortable with having beliefs and allowing others to disagree, to being charitable and to be for justice at different levels....NO, PJ didn't give me all of this...but it did give perceived examples that I could watch and select from...and, of course, there is the indescribable importance of the music and the created artistic emotion that keeps me connected to all the points of importance or reflections dotted on the path behind me. Nothing connects me to Myself more than this music....it is the emotional photobook with GPS of where I was and where I was or wasn't heading at the time each song entered my blood.......every friend I have ever had has made a joke about how I need to go listen to "your depressing songs"......that semi-misconception is something that can never really be explained; the catalog of this band covers light years of palpable and challenging themes, neutral, positive and negative.,....non-pj-people will forever presume that the music is restricted to a few simple themes..... it is the dark chords and devastating lyrics are just as beautiful and real and somehow optimistic to me as anything I have ever learned from other sources.
So......this all started by a simple question about liking two bands.....I really have negative feelings toward Creed's lead singer...I am sure that is easy to explain, but it has nothing to do with the "rivalry" or comparisons to EV...I actually love/d that song One....but I never had a chance to respect Stapp because of who he is...i trust our band and I respect them for what I believe they are all about. Is that respect simply a false perception, or real, imagined, completely contrary to reality......who really knows....but I have had enough reinforcement over the past 19 years to feel pretty confident I am here on earth at the right time for ME, and that I am (coupled with the birth of my son) eternally set by this ride....now if I can only get a single ticket somewhere in the front 1 or 1 row to MSG night one...(already have row 2 side stage for Friday)....then my future will be set too.... If anyone got through all of this, I will go ahead and apologize for wasting the last 7 minutes of your life.....I am kinda mad at myself for burning 15 minutes when I could be watching my DVR recording of Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin on Hannities show last night.....gotta balance my heroes.......hoping for a Bachmann Palin ticket for 2012..... (okay...I had a HUGE thought that I will post in politics....)
(and I apologize for the past 28 seconds that were negated from your life that after my first apology) And, no, I dont go back and read what I wrote or look for spelling errors,...I would delete my own account if I ever did....
My name is Matt, I am here all week. You've been great....next time I won't wake up to two red-bulls and the bluish square and large red pills........
I'm sure your post is well thought out and well written, but I quit reading after "no french quarter arrests". Let's not forget Eddies drunken night out with Jack McDowell....in the French Quarter.
[/quote]I'm sure your post is well thought out and well written, but I quit reading after "no french quarter arrests". Let's not forget Eddies drunken night out with Jack McDowell....in the French Quarter.[/quote]
Ha....I know, that is why I said French Quarter but coupled it with "Crickets"..... I am surprised you made it that far, actually!.....
just to amend....I am, of course, not saying they/you/us/me are "better" than anyone else on earth and would hate them/you/me/us if I/they/you thought they were perfect. Bar fight in the streets of New Orleans....I understand that, have been there in a different city,..that's human and actually stupidly funny, regardless of who it is....(just last week, you should have seen that 12 year old run after he got his first 21 solid hits in and I went back into the bar and got the bouncers....)... That whole man on the street, have a beer with EV bottlecap, real life connection is what I understand.... I have no connection to a person putting themself on an imaginary cross in his videos and then getting his who-who-nanny examined by groupies on a bus while Kid Rock films it......
Fuck, Im half perfect, and that is just about right........and no, my unnecessary post was far from well thought out......but thanks for the presumption! That is the only complement I have ever gotten on the boards......hahahah
Formally known as Tackalac before being formally known as Vedderwt,,,,....release my old name and posts....
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
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me too. some people just can't let things go.
it has nothing to do with my devotion to pj tho
scott and chad both suck imo
and it has nothing to do with my devotion to ed
"what a long, strange trip it's been"
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Good one! Not sure that everyone will get that referrence, but I do and I love it.
Creed sucks
Two different worlds......so funny that the experience and routes of humans can be so different. You know, maybe this question of whether or not we 'like' two self-polarized bands pushed it, but I dont think I've ever thought about the following with much context; how f'n remarkable is it that for nearly twenty years, Pearl Jam's members have all been so consistent with what they stand for and how they judge people and treat fans.....No, I don't know any of them, but I have met all of them and been around them enough to see how brilliant, responsive, humble and graceful they are with adapting to whomever they are talking to.....especially Mike and Ed...meeting Stone, oh man, that is my favorite story of all time,...it wasn't good and it was my doing and fault...another time....
Anyway. If I could chalk it up, I would have to say that, whereas Creed is temporary or incomplete at many levels, Pearl Jam is something far more developed and dynamic/complex....and not just because of their duration or number of albums they have released.....it worked because they are foundationally similar and we were lucky that they embraced the "marriage" early..it took (IMHO) amazing individuals to be so graceful, thoughtful and consistent at the levels they have...no DUIs, no French quarter arrests after catching crotch crickets, no porn star bus videos with Kid Rock, no wife beatings, no hypocritical proselytizing...
Ok,..getting long, but if anyone ever sees my posts, they all are,...why stop that pattern with this post?...MY point earlier,...I hadn't thought about it, and I am sure so many people would argue or deny this for themselves, but I just kinda had an epiphany that the respect I have for PJ is so much bigger than just the music (all my friends say all the stupid shit you all hear and always glance at me when a PJ song comes on in a store or on the radio, waiting for my face to explode as if I had never heard Alive before ......I always (up until now) just say, no, I love the music, dont know a thing about the individuals....)....
My "epiphany" (really bad choice for what I mean) is that since the beginning, whatever it is when I say "PJ", that influence and history has been a solid and positive example of how a person could elect to carry or to not carry themselves...for me, I really see now that through all the years there has been an undefinable gratitude and engrained PJ influence that I could never seperate from my own experience and being...yes, chicken and egg, I get that, obviously something of my (our) compositions resonates or strikes a chord and that makes the connection even more emotional etc......BUT...what I am saying is that I can point now to so many basic philosophies that I watched and selected from as I grew up with this band...everything from being reserved and mysterious, to finding ways to actually express or create words for an emotion that I once thought could only be confined that elusive and chemical feelings inside, to being comfortable with having beliefs and allowing others to disagree, to being charitable and to be for justice at different levels....NO, PJ didn't give me all of this...but it did give perceived examples that I could watch and select from...and, of course, there is the indescribable importance of the music and the created artistic emotion that keeps me connected to all the points of importance or reflections dotted on the path behind me. Nothing connects me to Myself more than this music....it is the emotional photobook with GPS of where I was and where I was or wasn't heading at the time each song entered my blood.......every friend I have ever had has made a joke about how I need to go listen to "your depressing songs"......that semi-misconception is something that can never really be explained; the catalog of this band covers light years of palpable and challenging themes, neutral, positive and negative.,....non-pj-people will forever presume that the music is restricted to a few simple themes..... it is the dark chords and devastating lyrics are just as beautiful and real and somehow optimistic to me as anything I have ever learned from other sources.
So......this all started by a simple question about liking two bands.....I really have negative feelings toward Creed's lead singer...I am sure that is easy to explain, but it has nothing to do with the "rivalry" or comparisons to EV...I actually love/d that song One....but I never had a chance to respect Stapp because of who he is...i trust our band and I respect them for what I believe they are all about. Is that respect simply a false perception, or real??? Getting warm or imagined and completely contrary to reality??......who really knows....but I have a perception and have had enough reinforcement over the past 19 years to feel pretty confident I am here on earth at the right time for ME, and that I am (coupled with the birth of my son) eternally set by this ride....now if I can only get a single ticket somewhere in the front 1 or 1 row to MSG night one...(already have row 2 side stage for Friday)....then my future will be set too....
(and I apologize for the past 28 seconds that were negated from your life that after my first apology) And, no, I dont go back and read what I wrote or look for spelling errors,...I would delete my own account if I ever did....
My name is Matt, I am here all week. You've been great....next time I won't wake up to two red-bulls and the bluish square and large red pills........
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
I'm sure your post is well thought out and well written, but I quit reading after "no french quarter arrests". Let's not forget Eddies drunken night out with Jack McDowell....in the French Quarter.
Ha....I know, that is why I said French Quarter but coupled it with "Crickets"..... I am surprised you made it that far, actually!.....
just to amend....I am, of course, not saying they/you/us/me are "better" than anyone else on earth and would hate them/you/me/us if I/they/you thought they were perfect. Bar fight in the streets of New Orleans....I understand that, have been there in a different city,..that's human and actually stupidly funny, regardless of who it is....(just last week, you should have seen that 12 year old run after he got his first 21 solid hits in and I went back into the bar and got the bouncers....)... That whole man on the street, have a beer with EV bottlecap, real life connection is what I understand.... I have no connection to a person putting themself on an imaginary cross in his videos and then getting his who-who-nanny examined by groupies on a bus while Kid Rock films it......
Fuck, Im half perfect, and that is just about right........and no, my unnecessary post was far from well thought out......but thanks for the presumption! That is the only complement I have ever gotten on the boards......hahahah
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"