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Cobain — 16 years later

TooMuchBloodTooMuchBlood Posts: 312
edited April 2010 in Other Music
Man, today's the day — 16 years later. That's half a lifetime ago for me.

What a shame.

If you haven't done some reading about the case, I suggest this site: http://www.cobaincase.com/

I'm convinced Courtney Love had him killed.

I'm glad PJ sailed through the mess and are still around.
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  • KingJeremyDKingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    I watched the last 48 hrs of Kurt Kobains life special on ovation station today....I had seen a few other times..

    Jeremy
  • KingJeremyDKingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    Why would Courtney Love have him killed for?....I mean I haven't read anything about the case..But, doesn't make any sense to me...He had a major drug problem...I think that had a lot to do with his death..Just my own opinion..

    Jeremy
  • DPrival78DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuFf2Gp-lGk
    i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Crazy4Cords wrote:
    Why would Courtney Love have him killed for?....I mean I haven't read anything about the case..But, doesn't make any sense to me...He had a major drug problem...I think that had a lot to do with his death..Just my own opinion..

    Jeremy
    coked out whores dont really need a reason to do stupid things.
  • KingJeremyDKingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    MrSmith wrote:
    Crazy4Cords wrote:
    Why would Courtney Love have him killed for?....I mean I haven't read anything about the case..But, doesn't make any sense to me...He had a major drug problem...I think that had a lot to do with his death..Just my own opinion..

    Jeremy
    coked out whores dont really need a reason to do stupid things.


    Still there would be have to a reason why should would have him wanted killed?...Just doesn't make sense...Why have your husband and your babies dad killed?...She didn't do it for the money..Because, she already had that..I don't know...I am sure if someone killed him?...There would be an investigation of it and that would help determine it..
    Jeremy
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Crazy4Cords wrote:
    MrSmith wrote:
    Crazy4Cords wrote:
    Why would Courtney Love have him killed for?....I mean I haven't read anything about the case..But, doesn't make any sense to me...He had a major drug problem...I think that had a lot to do with his death..Just my own opinion..

    Jeremy
    coked out whores dont really need a reason to do stupid things.


    Still there would be have to a reason why should would have him wanted killed?...Just doesn't make sense...Why have your husband and your babies dad killed?...She didn't do it for the money..Because, she already had that..I don't know...I am sure if someone killed him?...There would be an investigation of it and that would help determine it..
    Jeremy
    no i think the theory is that she killed him herself in some drug induced haze. i dont know if she did or not, but i havent really read much about it.
  • TooMuchBloodTooMuchBlood Posts: 312
    The reason she had him killed: life-insurance money. The day before his body was found, Nirvana pulled out of Lollapalooza. Love is a money-grubbing maniac (look no farther than her controlling ways regarding the release of "You Know You're Right").

    Kurt's so-called suicide note was a retirement-from-music letter. If you do the research, you can clearly see images of the letter and the tacked-on paragraph at the end in larger, different handwriting.

    Kurt took a triple-lethal dose of heroin. There was no way he could've pulled the trigger. Moreover, the angle of the shotgun blast would've been impossible to pull off. Police never found fingerprints on the weapon.

    When he died, Courtney was in L.A. promoting a record, ironically called "Live Through This." She was away from the scene and paid someone to kill him.

    Check out the site whose link I provided.

    I also believe something's fishy with the so-called Elliott Smith suicide.
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    I may have been 3 when he died and didn't have a clue who he was until I was 13/14, but he was a damn good lyricist and hit a lot of people in that generation that was growing up that needed a spokesperson in the teenage angst days. He will never be forgotten and his name will always live on in rock history.

    Time to listen to Nirvana.
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  • KingJeremyDKingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    Was there investigation on his death being a homicide not a suicide?.....I am sure if it was that obivious that it was a homicide?...There would have been an investigation...
  • TooMuchBloodTooMuchBlood Posts: 312
    Crazy4Cords wrote:
    Was there investigation on his death being a homicide not a suicide?.....I am sure if it was that obivious that it was a homicide?...There would have been an investigation...

    The investigation was bunk, according to Tom Grant, the investigator Love called in early April 1994. Apparently, fingerprints weren't even looked for until a month after his death.
  • KingJeremyDKingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    I just find it hard to believe that there wouldn't have been an investigation on possible homicide...Specailly with it being a famous musician..

    Jeremy
  • TooMuchBloodTooMuchBlood Posts: 312
    Crazy4Cords wrote:
    I just find it hard to believe that there wouldn't have been an investigation on possible homicide...Specailly with it being a famous musician..

    Jeremy

    Don't overlook Jon Bonet Ramsey's case. That investigation was handled poorly.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Crazy4Cords wrote:
    MrSmith wrote:
    Crazy4Cords wrote:
    Why would Courtney Love have him killed for?....I mean I haven't read anything about the case..But, doesn't make any sense to me...He had a major drug problem...I think that had a lot to do with his death..Just my own opinion..

    Jeremy
    coked out whores dont really need a reason to do stupid things.


    Still there would be have to a reason why should would have him wanted killed?...Just doesn't make sense...Why have your husband and your babies dad killed?...She didn't do it for the money..Because, she already had that..I don't know...I am sure if someone killed him?...There would be an investigation of it and that would help determine it..
    Jeremy


    technically she didn't have the money....he was looking into a divorce and even contacted their lawyer about it and they had a prenuptial agreement
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

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    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    TooMuchBlood wrote:
    Crazy4Cords wrote:
    Was there investigation on his death being a homicide not a suicide?.....I am sure if it was that obivious that it was a homicide?...There would have been an investigation...

    The investigation was bunk, according to Tom Grant, the investigator Love called in early April 1994. Apparently, fingerprints weren't even looked for until a month after his death.


    also, there were no finger prints anywhere on the shot gun, i don't see how a person can buy a shot gun, fully load it, put it in their mouth and pull the trigger and not leave a single print.

    and his credit card was being used for days after he died, seems odd that no one bothered to look into that
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • TooMuchBloodTooMuchBlood Posts: 312
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    TooMuchBlood wrote:
    Crazy4Cords wrote:
    Was there investigation on his death being a homicide not a suicide?.....I am sure if it was that obivious that it was a homicide?...There would have been an investigation...

    The investigation was bunk, according to Tom Grant, the investigator Love called in early April 1994. Apparently, fingerprints weren't even looked for until a month after his death.


    also, there were no finger prints anywhere on the shot gun, i don't see how a person can buy a shot gun, fully load it, put it in their mouth and pull the trigger and not leave a single print.

    and his credit card was being used for days after he died, seems odd that no one bothered to look into that

    Exactly. There are so many things to say about the case.
  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,630
    Crazy4Cords wrote:
    Why would Courtney Love have him killed for?....I mean I haven't read anything about the case..But, doesn't make any sense to me...He had a major drug problem...I think that had a lot to do with his death..Just my own opinion..

    Jeremy
    Courtney didn't have him killed, he was a suicidal junkie that had OD'd in Italy a few weeks before he killed himelf. Kurt was always going to die young and miserable and Courtney was always going to be blamed for it. There are too many conspiracy theorists that have to drag this shit up all the time because they can't accept that their precious is nothng more than another dead junkie.
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • Evacuation RulesEvacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    goldrush wrote:
    Crazy4Cords wrote:
    Why would Courtney Love have him killed for?....I mean I haven't read anything about the case..But, doesn't make any sense to me...He had a major drug problem...I think that had a lot to do with his death..Just my own opinion..

    Jeremy
    Courtney didn't have him killed, he was a suicidal junkie that had OD'd in Italy a few weeks before he killed himelf. Kurt was always going to die young and miserable and Courtney was always going to be blamed for it. There are too many conspiracy theorists that have to drag this shit up all the time because they can't accept that their precious is nothng more than another dead junkie.

    Another dead junkie? That's a pretty ignorant thing to say. What about Layne? Jimi Hendrix? Were they just fucking junkies too? You've got a lot of nerve, man.
  • LennonMcCartneyFanaticLennonMcCartneyFanatic Posts: 40
    Kurt Cobain and John Lennon were my musical heroes while growing up. I still wish to have 1/2 the talent those two guys had. Oh well, guess that's why I went to medical school instead becoming a rockstar :mrgreen:
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    LennonMcCartneyFanatic wrote:
    Kurt Cobain and John Lennon were my musical heroes while growing up. I still wish to have 1/2 the talent those two guys had. Oh well, guess that's why I went to medical school instead becoming a rockstar :mrgreen:

    Lennon is my #1 musical hero. Ever since I started listening to music at an early age, always loved The Beatles (listened ONLY to them for the first 12 years of my life), especially Lennon. Lennon is the reason why I want to be a rockstar.

    Kurt is also a hero of mine for keeping songs as simple as you can get.
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  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,630
    Evacuation Rules wrote:
    goldrush wrote:
    Crazy4Cords wrote:
    Why would Courtney Love have him killed for?....I mean I haven't read anything about the case..But, doesn't make any sense to me...He had a major drug problem...I think that had a lot to do with his death..Just my own opinion..

    Jeremy
    Courtney didn't have him killed, he was a suicidal junkie that had OD'd in Italy a few weeks before he killed himelf. Kurt was always going to die young and miserable and Courtney was always going to be blamed for it. There are too many conspiracy theorists that have to drag this shit up all the time because they can't accept that their precious is nothng more than another dead junkie.

    Another dead junkie? That's a pretty ignorant thing to say. What about Layne? Jimi Hendrix? Were they just fucking junkies too? You've got a lot of nerve, man.
    Well... he had a well-documented drug problem... and he is dead so...

    ...but that really wasn't the point of my post and neither was it an anti-junkie post. The point was that I'm fed up of people blaming others (and I'm not a Courtney fan in any way) instead of accepting that the guy had problems and he killed himself. It hardly came as a surprise did it? Nobody who listened to Nirvana ever thought "Oh what pretty songs, this guy must be really happy with his life," did they?
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    kurt pulled the trigger. he told me. at least we still have music. and courtney is a cuntagious bitch.
  • pearljamdude420pearljamdude420 Posts: 1,380
    it makes no sense that kurt could hold a shotgun when he has 3x the dose of heroin lethal in him, i doubt he be ale to pick anything up let alone aim it properly and everything????

    i kind of think he was killed and hired by love to do it, and i saw a documentary on it, some fat singer guy in some hardcore band was offered 100k by courtney to kill him, i think the guy said no in the doucmentary cause it wasnt enough money, but a few year or so later the guy was found dead hit by a train. that is weird also
  • LennonMcCartneyFanaticLennonMcCartneyFanatic Posts: 40
    Newch91 wrote:
    LennonMcCartneyFanatic wrote:
    Kurt Cobain and John Lennon were my musical heroes while growing up. I still wish to have 1/2 the talent those two guys had. Oh well, guess that's why I went to medical school instead becoming a rockstar :mrgreen:

    Lennon is my #1 musical hero. Ever since I started listening to music at an early age, always loved The Beatles (listened ONLY to them for the first 12 years of my life), especially Lennon. Lennon is the reason why I want to be a rockstar.

    Kurt is also a hero of mine for keeping songs as simple as you can get.

    Lennon and Cobain understood melody, honesty, integrity, and lyrical substance. IMO those are the most important parts of being a great songwriter.

    I started listening to the Beatles at age 16 and to Nirvana at age 14. I have been a loyal fan of those two bands ever since.
  • PearlOfAGirlPearlOfAGirl Posts: 15,993
    I don't doubt that Courtney Love had anything to do with his death...

    I can't believe it's been 16 years already.. :(

    Wish you were here...
    ♥~RIP Dad
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