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timctimc Posts: 664
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found this while reading stuff on MKULTRA and mind control stuff! Pretty interesting
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  • ryanevolutionryanevolution Posts: 782
    Agreed. That site is the shit. Unfortunately most peole around here dont give a shit. But i could talk about any of that stuff. I posted the article about mind control and lady gaga a few weeks back, got like zero response.

    After I read a bunch of stuff on that site and its links, I saw an interview with a dude who came out of it. Its one of the biggest, sickest, and never talked about crimes of all time against all of humanity.
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  • ryanevolutionryanevolution Posts: 782
    Btw, that Sperry print is one of my fuckin' favorites! You r on my wavelength :lol:
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    i think the thing is if you would like to discuss mk ultra, mind control programs and experiments on unknowing citizens there are far better sources than sites talking about lady gaga and yu gi oh.
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  • ryanevolutionryanevolution Posts: 782
    Why do you say that? I'm actually surprised that coming from you Pepe! Those two things are MASSIVELY popular, and both employ extensive masonic symbology in their images, videos, etc...Why are these things promoted so heavily. Read those articles. They are good. Come on man. You?!
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    i did read the articles and they say the videos aren't forms of mind control but ABOUT mind control.

    so, what would be the point in being so open about it if lady gaga was an Illuminati shill? wouldn't they want to keep it secret? like what is the point in the illuminati creating yu gi oh?
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

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    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • timctimc Posts: 664
    ryanevolution wrote:
    Btw, that Sperry print is one of my fuckin' favorites! You r on my wavelength :lol:

    Ya Chuck hooked me up with one of AP prints he only printed 80 so I was real fucking lucky! He is a really cool artist I have this one also by him. Lots of stuff going on in this one!

    nice to meet another fan who is looking at our times the same way


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  • timctimc Posts: 664
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    i did read the articles and they say the videos aren't forms of mind control but ABOUT mind control.

    so, what would be the point in being so open about it if lady gaga was an Illuminati shill? wouldn't they want to keep it secret? like what is the point in the illuminati creating yu gi oh?

    Nice to meet ya! I think this site is a good starting point for most folks! They pretty much can put stuff out in the open and most folks won't even notice! Most folks only see the exoteric not esoteric!
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    timc wrote:
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    i did read the articles and they say the videos aren't forms of mind control but ABOUT mind control.

    so, what would be the point in being so open about it if lady gaga was an Illuminati shill? wouldn't they want to keep it secret? like what is the point in the illuminati creating yu gi oh?

    Nice to meet ya! I think this site is a good starting point for most folks! They pretty much can put stuff out in the open and most folks won't even notice! Most folks only see the exoteric not esoteric!


    likewise, i just don't see the point in the illuminati being behind it. there is a lot of symbolism but to write things like "Do the cigarettes covering her eyes represent her blindness to her highly toxic life as a mind controlled drone?" just seems like he's really stretching to make connections like with the yu gi oh article. the director of the videos is in a swedish metal band or used to be, i don't understand what the point would be for the illuminati to do be behind these things. what are they achieving with it?
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    timc wrote:
    ryanevolution wrote:
    Btw, that Sperry print is one of my fuckin' favorites! You r on my wavelength :lol:

    Ya Chuck hooked me up with one of AP prints he only printed 80 so I was real fucking lucky! He is a really cool artist I have this one also by him. Lots of stuff going on in this one!

    nice to meet another fan who is looking at our times the same way


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    i like this one :mrgreen:

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    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    A must read for everyone- Transaformation of America by Cathy obrien and mark Phillips. Read but be fair warned, it will fuck you up mentaly.....I'm serious
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    man, that's site has some kooky shit...

    some folks have a lot of time on their hands...add that to some good ol' fashioned paranoia and *BaM*...lady gaga is controlling my mind....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJosB7SEmOY
  • ryanevolutionryanevolution Posts: 782
    The article is not really about "controlling the minds of the masses". It's about creating mind control victims who become drones and are completely controlled. This is done through various forms of extreme torture and abuse. Including electric shocking. The victim is hooked up to an iv and given drugs to keep them awake while they are brutally tortured. Normally one's mind would pass out at a certain point. The drugs keep the victim awake. The mind is forced to either die or break. The mind splits, and breaks into new personalities which are molded and controlled by that victims handler.

    This is not SUBLIMINAL. it is not like a commercial telling you to eat something and you do it. This is WAY more fucking hard core than that. And it is really happening. And has been for a long time. :shock:

    And to bring it back to OP. The FACT that gaga's imagery and videos are FILLED with this stuff is at least concerning and deserves a look at. In that one video she IS mind controlled. In the Rhianna video she is mind controlled to kill someone. And they are NOT doing it in a way that deconstructs it and criticizes it. They are making it "cool" to be an empty headed mind controlled thoughtless nothing.
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    yes, i'm not disputing those thing took place, i'm just saying if you want to have a discussion about it there are better doors than a site talking about lady gaga and yu gi oh. it's possible she is using something like that as a basis for the character lady gaga but i don't think she's some illuminati puppet just as i don't think any head banger that throws up horns is really giving a secret illuminati hand sign. same thing with the swastika, that was around long before hitler but he was interested in the occult and that's how i see lady gaga and yu gi oh, i think her swedish metal band director likes those types of things and i think whoever created yu gi oh liked the symbols they used, like the eye of horus, which doesn't necessarily have to mean it's the illuminati, my roommate has that same symbol on his wall and i seriously doubt he's a member.

    there are better sources to spark a discussion about mk ultra is all i'm saying. like, i forgot the name but some canadian took the us to court because they were used as an experiment for mk ultra, i think their name started with an o. it's not like there isn't actual evidence proving mk ultra and other programs existed, i think you might have a better chance using something like those instead of some guy speculating.
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • ryanevolutionryanevolution Posts: 782
    He actually draws no conclusions to linking them. He only analyzes the symbols. And does historical research. As you probably saw, many times the authors or directors behind a lot of big things were members themselves. The METROPOLIS movie connections are very hard to dispute. Again that movie, made by a mason, using heavy occult symbols, with a message of the elite corrupting the working class is relevant.

    That YuGiOh shit had WAY more than just the eye as well.


    I agree with the earlier post about esoteric/exoteric. Crucial. Most people totally overlook symbols and their meanings, but vigilant citizen.com basically puts forward that these very symbols actually rule our consciousness and culture.
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    ryanevolution wrote:
    The article is not really about "controlling the minds of the masses". It's about creating mind control victims who become drones and are completely controlled. This is done through various forms of extreme torture and abuse. Including electric shocking. The victim is hooked up to an iv and given drugs to keep them awake while they are brutally tortured. Normally one's mind would pass out at a certain point. The drugs keep the victim awake. The mind is forced to either die or break. The mind splits, and breaks into new personalities which are molded and controlled by that victims handler.

    This is not SUBLIMINAL. it is not like a commercial telling you to eat something and you do it. This is WAY more fucking hard core than that. And it is really happening. And has been for a long time. :shock:

    And to bring it back to OP. The FACT that gaga's imagery and videos are FILLED with this stuff is at least concerning and deserves a look at. In that one video she IS mind controlled. In the Rhianna video she is mind controlled to kill someone. And they are NOT doing it in a way that deconstructs it and criticizes it. They are making it "cool" to be an empty headed mind controlled thoughtless nothing.

    thanks for clearing that up...

    on a serious note...the person who runs that site has lots of time on his/her hands and is one paranoid person...
  • timctimc Posts: 664
    badbrains wrote:
    A must read for everyone- Transaformation of America by Cathy obrien and mark Phillips. Read but be fair warned, it will fuck you up mentaly.....I'm serious
    I heard her talk on a few radio shows some very serious stuff went on with her!! That's when you say reality is stranger than fiction! I just found that site surfing around figured it would be an easy ice breaker for some folks on here who are still locked to TV reality.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    ryanevolution wrote:
    He actually draws no conclusions to linking them. He only analyzes the symbols. And does historical research. As you probably saw, many times the authors or directors behind a lot of big things were members themselves. The METROPOLIS movie connections are very hard to dispute. Again that movie, made by a mason, using heavy occult symbols, with a message of the elite corrupting the working class is relevant.

    That YuGiOh shit had WAY more than just the eye as well.


    I agree with the earlier post about esoteric/exoteric. Crucial. Most people totally overlook symbols and their meanings, but vigilant citizen.com basically puts forward that these very symbols actually rule our consciousness and culture.

    i've never seen metropolis so i can't comment on that. in his piece on the mtv vma's he DOES draw conclusions and says it was a big illuminati ritual. actually, i don't know if the same person writes everything but it's on that site. i just see lady gaga as a fictional character or role like marilyn manson or kiss. i can see her character being based on that and i have no idea if the director of both videos is a mason or anything and i know not all but a lot of people that are into heavy metal like occult type stuff.

    i know the yu gi oh had more than just the eye, but the cards are supposed to be magic so occult symbols would make sense.

    the paparazzi video was actually discussed before by driftingbythestorm, i wonder where he is, he usually likes symbology type stuff
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    so what to make of this video?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0YI0UUazkU
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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