will you be chipped!!? thanks Barry Soetoro

timc

being promoted on kids shows Nickelodeon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AOO7Y9sg7k


http://www.wethepeoplewillnotbechipped. ... n/news.php


Obama Health Care Bill To Include Microchips In People - And Response (2)
posted March 25, 2010

Seems people will be getting more than they bargained for in this new health care bill.

The Obama health care bill under Sec. 2521, page 1,000 will establish a National Medical Device Registry. What does a National Medical Device Registry mean?

National Medical Device Registry from H.R. 3200 [Healthcare Bill], pages 1,001-1,008:
(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that— ‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; ‘‘(B)and is— ‘‘(i) a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.”

A "class II device that is implantable?"

Then on page 1,004 it describes what the term "data" means in paragraph 1, section B: ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to in formation respecting a device described in paragraph (1), including claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary."

Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is a "implantable radiofrequency transponder system for patient identification and health information."

So those who opt to be included in the Obama health care plan will be offered an implantable chip which will include medical history, patient survey data, and any other data they might need to diagnose your illness or condition. Are you sure you want to go down this slippery slope?

http://blog.changeandexperience.com/200 ... ation.html

bernmodi

Get a chip, so your mothership won't lose contact...

timc

bernmodi wrote:

Get a chip, so your mothership won't lose contact...

it's laughs now bro! until they tell you to chip your children what will you DO?? Bend over and take it or stand up for your family and say NO!
peace

http://vodpod.com/watch/3220564-alan-wa ... r-nonsense

http://www.wiseupjournal.com/?p=170

reality is stranger than fiction

South of Seattle

If done efficiently, I don't see any real problems with it. It does open up a can of worms for the conspiracy theorists. I'm sure Alex Jones is having fun with this one.

It works for Pets, I'm sure it'll work for us.

blackredyellow

I'm sorry... you lost any credibility whatsoever when your first link was to an iCarly show as an example of it "being promoted".

timc wrote:

Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is a "implantable radiofrequency transponder system for patient identification and health information."

One more thing... a friend of mine has a heart defibrillator implanted. Through RF technology, his doctor can scan it and get info on past heart rhythms, and if/when the defibrillator kicked in. So these implantable devices don't necessary mean some sort of dog-type identifier/locator chip.

yoke

I saw a story with Diane Sawyer(I think it was her) that a couple chipped the whole family after 9-11 for security reasons.

This isn't as far fetched as you may think. The Mexican Gov does it.

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:cSI6oZUQztIJ:www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5439055/+microchip+mexico&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


Also what about these commercials.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RKog5dMlxA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7WYWykuXwk

blackredyellow

yoke wrote:

I saw a story with Diane Sawyer(I think it was her) that a couple chipped the whole family after 9-11 for security reasons.

This isn't as far fetched as you may think. The Mexican Gov does it.

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:cSI6oZUQztIJ:www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5439055/+microchip+mexico&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


Also what about these commercials.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RKog5dMlxA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7WYWykuXwk

The second commercial is for a child locator that parents can buy.... it's not a chip, but the child has a receiver that they wear or whatever.

yoke

blackredyellow wrote:

yoke wrote:

I saw a story with Diane Sawyer(I think it was her) that a couple chipped the whole family after 9-11 for security reasons.

This isn't as far fetched as you may think. The Mexican Gov does it.

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:cSI6oZUQztIJ:www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5439055/+microchip+mexico&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


Also what about these commercials.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RKog5dMlxA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7WYWykuXwk

The second commercial is for a child locator that parents can buy.... it's not a chip, but the child has a receiver that they wear or whatever.

Yes, I agree they "could" wear, who's to say that it won't be implanted next?

I am not a conspiracy person by any means but I can see this happening at some point in the future.

timc

blackredyellow wrote:

I'm sorry... you lost any credibility whatsoever when your first link was to an iCarly show as an example of it "being promoted".

timc wrote:

Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is a "implantable radiofrequency transponder system for patient identification and health information."

One more thing... a friend of mine has a heart defibrillator implanted. Through RF technology, his doctor can scan it and get info on past heart rhythms, and if/when the defibrillator kicked in. So these implantable devices don't necessary mean some sort of dog-type identifier/locator chip.

Yes we have to be care-full when "they" introduce a new tool for our benefit there is always a sinister ploy behind it.
another example is this article just think how dangerous this is, how much control "GOVT" would have over you big brother right on your laptop screen you have been a bad CITIZEN so we are going to take away your CREDITS!
http://www.eetimes.com/224200147
EE Times:

Google, Microchip develop energy monitor software
Reference API is a step towards Google home energy monitor sensor networks



Peter Clarke
EE Times
(03/24/2010 5:52 AM EDT)

LONDON — Microcontroller company Microchip Technology Inc. (Chandler, Ariz.) has announced the result of a partnership with software giant Google Inc. to produce a reference implementation of the Google PowerMeter application programming interface.
PowerMeter is free software that displays details of home energy consumption received from either a smartmeter or another electricity monitoring device. Microchip has produced the first reference implementation of the Google PowerMeter API, which is key to producing compatible electricity-monitor circuits for inclusion in energy-consuming devices.

Google PowerMeter allows consumers to view their energy consumption from their iGoogle personalized homepage. However, to be effective it needs to be fed with data collected from energy-consuming devices. The more fine-grained the data that is collected the more detailed the picture that PowerMeter provides. The open-source, standards-based Google PowerMeter API allows device manufacturers to build energy-monitoring products that work with Google PowerMeter.

By developing the reference implementation of the API Microchip now supports designers trying to create Google-compatible products for the measurement and monitoring of energy usage with 16- and 32-bit PIC microcontrollers, energy-measurement ICs, Ethernet controller ICs, and radios for ZigBee and embedded Wi-Fi wireless networking.

Microchip's reference implementation of the API demonstrates an energy-monitoring device's activation, wired or wireless data transmission and status messages, providing a template for developers' own designs. Additionally, Microchip offers one-stop-shopping for all of the semiconductors and development tools needed to build a Google PowerMeter device.

"Google is helping to foster an ecosystem of devices and utilities that will provide consumers with access to their energy information, and we're excited to be working with Microchip, a strategic partner in enabling consumer devices," said Ed Lu, Google PowerMeter program manager for advanced projects, in a statement issued by Microchip. "Microchip's Reference Implementation of the Google PowerMeter API will make it much easier to create products that are compatible with Google PowerMeter."

Microchip's free reference implementation code could be downloaded from www.microchip.com/get/PLC4 when this story was first posted.

Google has said that PowerMeter project is part of Google.org, Google's philanthropic arm, and the focus is on helping users understand how they use electricity and help them use less.

Related links and articles:

www.google.org/powermeter

Comment: Google PowerMeter is watching you

Smart grid group reaches out to consumers

Fabless firm makes meter deal with India's Aftek

timc

yoke wrote:

blackredyellow wrote:

yoke wrote:

I saw a story with Diane Sawyer(I think it was her) that a couple chipped the whole family after 9-11 for security reasons.

This isn't as far fetched as you may think. The Mexican Gov does it.

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:cSI6oZUQztIJ:www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5439055/+microchip+mexico&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


Also what about these commercials.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RKog5dMlxA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7WYWykuXwk

The second commercial is for a child locator that parents can buy.... it's not a chip, but the child has a receiver that they wear or whatever.

Yes, I agree they "could" wear, who's to say that it won't be implanted next?

I am not a conspiracy person by any means but I can see this happening at some point in the future.

It's not a conspiracy when you have the facts! That is a word used by the mainstream for us sheeple to police each other!!

badbrains

Welcome to the new world order........

Godfather.

tracking device ? a great tool for the government and the IRS to keep tabs on your (personal life) financial
and other wise ?......sounds to scary to me, not that the government doesn't already do this but it would make it
essayer to keep records on you and your family,maybe all those rednecks you see on the internet stocking up
for revolution ain't so far fetched.

Godfather.

michelleelise

These have been around for at least 15 years. My grandfather had a pacemaker with some kind of chip that they were able to read for information. They're for implantable devices like pacemakers and defribillators and neuro-stimulators. If you're going to put a mini-computer in your body to regulate your heart then there has to be a way to access and control it. Maybe chips sound "conspiratorial" but the alternative is a wire from the device's motherboard sticking through your skin.

Your doctor or the ER need to access that info in an emergency, plus the companies that make these devices need to be able to track their functioning as well as recall them if they discover a pattern of problems.

Why does the FDA need to keep a database and track how well they function? The same reason they are responsible for the approval and tracking of medications... oversight, quality control and recalls. Look at companies like Toyota.. would you really trust the manufacturer to initiate costly recalls or disclose data that shows problems that could cost them millions?

I don't see what the big conspiracy is about, it's not like the gov't is going to run around restraining and "chipping" people when they come in for their annual physical - the chip comes with the device. If you don't want one, don't get one.

TravisTheSky

michelle822 wrote:

it's not like the gov't is going to run around restraining and "chipping" people when they come in for their annual physical - the chip comes with the device. If you don't want one, don't get one.

And in more and more airports, if you don't want the naked body scan, you don't fly.

timc

michelle822 wrote:
it's not like the gov't is going to run around restraining and "chipping" people when they come in for their annual physical - the chip comes with the device. If you don't want one, don't get one.

Problem is you won't have choice in our new Orwellin world!

OnTheEdge

Sometimes I wonder if we're ALL being played.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo

timc

mb262200 wrote:

Sometimes I wonder if we're ALL being played.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo

yes we are