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Want to make MSG shake again? It CAN be done intentionally.

CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
edited May 2010 in The Porch
If you want to make the MSG REALLY bounce... there's kind of a frequency of jumping that does it.


The time I remember the arena bouncing the most was during a No Doubt performance in 96 or so, during the song spider webs. And obviously the arena was shaking during Do The Evolution back in '03.

If you compare Spider Webs to Do The Evolution, you'll notice two things in common. They both have the exact same tempo, and they are both "energetic" songs that make people want to jump.

If you jump up and down right now by yourself, it will probably be a the exact same tempo as DTE.

So... what I'm getting at is if we plan in advance to jump during songs with the same tempo as DTE, making the house shake during other songs is very likely.

Feel free to post below other PJ songs with the same energy and tempo as DTE, and maybe we can make a night of it!

:D
ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you. :)
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Posts: 29,040
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Supersonic comes to mind as far as tempo matching DTE...
    ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you. :)
    *NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
    *EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
    *Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    This is a worthy cause. And I will go on record right now as saying if you people don't make that place shake the rest of us will be very disappointed in you.
    I smile, but who am I kidding...
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,549
    Corduroy,RVM
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • Drop1The0LeashDrop1The0Leash Posts: 954
    Corduroy?
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  • shepshep Posts: 5,763
    During night 2 at MSG in 08 we had the floor shaking for corduroy and down. So those could probably be some sure bets. Also I wasn't on the floor for night 1, but in the bootlegs Ed dares the crowd to get the floor shaking at the start of corduroy, and then when it starts shaking before he gets to the lyrics you hear him go "ohhhh... Shit!"
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  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    DeLukin wrote:
    This is a worthy cause. And I will go on record right now as saying if you people don't make that place shake the rest of us will be very disappointed in you.


    I made it shake in 08. Now I'm off to smoke a cigarette. ;)
  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    S T B C
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    Wilds wrote:
    I made it shake in 08. Now I'm off to smoke a cigarette. ;)
    That was 2 years ago. You're older now. Think you still got it in you? I hope so...
    I smile, but who am I kidding...
  • PontikasPontikas Posts: 210
    you can figure out bpm/tempo here :

    http://www.all8.com/tools/bpm.htm
    http://youtu.be/cwPgXkNOun4
  • Drum Machine89Drum Machine89 Posts: 2,157
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Supersonic comes to mind as far as tempo matching DTE...

    Sounds about right! :D
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  • Given to...Given to... Posts: 4,988
    Pontikas wrote:
    you can figure out bpm/tempo here :

    http://www.all8.com/tools/bpm.htm


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  • FenwayFaithfulFenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    I'll be there jumping around like a madman!
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    shep wrote:
    During night 2 at MSG in 08 we had the floor shaking for corduroy and down. So those could probably be some sure bets. Also I wasn't on the floor for night 1, but in the bootlegs Ed dares the crowd to get the floor shaking at the start of corduroy, and then when it starts shaking before he gets to the lyrics you hear him go "ohhhh... Shit!"


    In the video in 2003 you can see Ed's genuine concern during DTE as he looks at the lights above (hoping they're not about to crash) looks as Matt (who give him an IDK? look) and then he seems to almost be a little calmer on that song. I'm sure they were wondering if there's an earthquake happening or if the lighting and sound are about to collapse.
    ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you. :)
    *NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
    *EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
    *Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
  • SavedFuckerSavedFucker Posts: 215
    Bugs


    or any hard song as long as Matt slows the fuck down..i'm only human
    i'll trade you my tee shirt for a grilled cheese
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    S T B C

    Great energy... but try jumping right now, then start singing the song.

    It's unfortunately way too fast to work on that one.
    ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you. :)
    *NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
    *EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
    *Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    when i start jumping, caltech knows it...bring it on!! :mrgreen:
  • helplessdancerhelplessdancer Posts: 5,272
    corduroy is the song. not pogoing is not an option
  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    norm wrote:
    when i start jumping, caltech knows it...bring it on!! :mrgreen:


    HOW BOUT WE BODYSLAM CUTBACK LIKE HOGAN BACK IN THE DAY !!!!! :lol:
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,549
    i post corduroy...now see how to do it ;) ....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxCLhadWRbw
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    I think the bouncing has to do with two things:

    1) A song that naturally people po-go to (and not just light po-going)

    2) I think there's a resonant frequency in the venue when people jump at the exact same timing as DTE and Spiderwebs. Just like the Tacoma Bridge that broke apart from just wind, because the wind was at it's resonant frequency for wobbling.

    Here's kinda what I mean:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m686UO68AXI
    ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you. :)
    *NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
    *EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
    *Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
  • jets521jets521 Posts: 804
    MSG II 2008

    during Corduroy..listen to the boot. it happens there. i felt it...was jumping...insane...cant wait to do it again
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  • helplessdancerhelplessdancer Posts: 5,272
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    i post corduroy...now see how to do it ;) ....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxCLhadWRbw

    there is no better. period.
  • Pearl Jam at Dogwood CampgroundsPearl Jam at Dogwood Campgrounds Posts: 108
    what about dimitris suggestion RVM... I think it would work
  • KloddzKloddz Posts: 2,573
    A phenomenon also known as mechanical resonance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_resonance. ;)

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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,549
    this with the bridge happen in the past in a wedding in israel and the floor was down and people killed..
    and in berlin this happen..in corduroy..was my second time in a pearl jam show that i felt it...first was in Athens at keep on rockin...i felt like an earthquake and couldnt stay on my feet..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • KloddzKloddz Posts: 2,573
    CJMST3K wrote:
    I think there's a resonant frequency in the venue when people jump at the exact same timing as DTE and Spiderwebs. Just like the Tacoma Bridge that broke apart from just wind, because the wind was at it's resonant frequency for wobbling.
    Plus, I was too slow, as this explains it quite correctly. :)
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  • rick1zoo2rick1zoo2 Posts: 12,632
    at the Green Day show there last summer, I was on the floor, in the back sections that are elevated on metal platforms. There where moments when I seriously thought that the platform was going to collapse.
  • Brain Of JeremyBrain Of Jeremy Posts: 135
    Was at U2 in MSG during the Elevation tour......was actually behind the stage and it felt like the place was on the collapse (and we were on stone, not platforms) during "I Will Follow"....awesome but momentarily frightening moment!
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    at the Green Day show there last summer, I was on the floor, in the back sections that are elevated on metal platforms. There where moments when I seriously thought that the platform was going to collapse.


    I was on that platform in 2008 at the back of the floor. I felt just a little bounce, but was hard to tell if it was the platform. Anything movable (like a riser) is likely to bounce with just 10 people jumping.

    That No Doubt show back in the 90's I was in my office backstage which is bunch of concrete rooms, and that was my first show in the venue. The whole venue does this, or at least the 5th floor, which is the stage level. We had a small tv on a milk crate, and that was rocking enough that I took it off to make sure it didn't crash.

    The venue seriously bounces. ...though I do hope nothing bad ever happens from the bouncing. :?
    ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you. :)
    *NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
    *EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
    *Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
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