"The Big Fucking Deal"

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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    aerial wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    I think it's funny that most of the anti-Obama people (whether religious, conservative or right wing) will find any reason under the sun to chastise this administration...and at least 50% is nothing more than nonsense. The same could be said about many from the left during Bush. Can't we just all agree our government and both parties suck ass and we shouldn't expect much of anything from any of them?
    aerial wrote:
    Biden with his disrespectful language confirmed what most of us knew all along.... ...no class...no dignity... in this whole administration.....are there no rules to follow in the White House? The sad part is that some think it’s funny..

    +1

    Don’t some people look at the President and the Vice president as role models?
    I can see the High School graduates this year as they walk getting to the mike and shouting “This is a Big “FUCKING DEAL!”
    But you are right ...I don’t know why this was surprising to me.

    I'm a recent high school graduate.. If there was a kid dumb enough to do it before, this won't encourage it. It's a word. Just like I wasn't offended when Bush swore at a conference, I'm not offended here. And besides, didn't Bohner say the H word on the house floor?
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,470
    aerial wrote:
    Biden with his disrespectful language confirmed what most of us knew all along.... ...no class...no dignity... in this whole administration.....are there no rules to follow in the White House? The sad part is that some think it’s funny..
    you were completely against this bill in the first place and now you claim to be offended that biden said something off color at the signing celebration? shouldn't you be offended that the bill is now a law instead of acting all offended that biden dropped an f-bomb?

    again, you have no idea why you are even angry do you?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,470
    aerial wrote:
    Don’t some people look at the President and the Vice president as role models?

    you don't see them as role models, so how can you pretend to care that others might see tham as such?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Okay as I see anything goes with you guys......good luck with your kids in the future
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,470
    aerial wrote:
    Okay as I see anything goes with you guys......good luck with your kids in the future
    you just choose to make a big deal out of things that are of no consequense to the rest of us. that's all..
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    aerial wrote:
    Biden with his disrespectful language confirmed what most of us knew all along.... ...no class...no dignity... in this whole administration.....are there no rules to follow in the White House? The sad part is that some think it’s funny..

    Right, because obviously when Dick "5-Deferment-Chickenhawk" Cheney tells a sitting Senator (Pat Leahy) to "Go Fuck Yourself" it's perfectly fine. :roll:
    "It's not hard to own something. Or everything. You just have to know that it's yours, and then be willing to let it go." - Neil Gaiman, "Stardust"
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    aerial wrote:
    Okay as I see anything goes with you guys......good luck with your kids in the future

    This is a Pearl Jam message board. If we were offended by the word fuck we probably wouldn't even be here.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,895
    Starfall wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    Biden with his disrespectful language confirmed what most of us knew all along.... ...no class...no dignity... in this whole administration.....are there no rules to follow in the White House? The sad part is that some think it’s funny..

    Right, because obviously when Dick "5-Deferment-Chickenhawk" Cheney tells a sitting Senator (Pat Leahy) to "Go Fuck Yourself" it's perfectly fine. :roll:

    Yep, it was. Again, not a big deal.

    Seems to me that you are saying it was a big deal with cheney...so why aren't you upset now?
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  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Starfall wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    Biden with his disrespectful language confirmed what most of us knew all along.... ...no class...no dignity... in this whole administration.....are there no rules to follow in the White House? The sad part is that some think it’s funny..

    Right, because obviously when Dick "5-Deferment-Chickenhawk" Cheney tells a sitting Senator (Pat Leahy) to "Go Fuck Yourself" it's perfectly fine. :roll:

    Yep, it was. Again, not a big deal.

    Seems to me that you are saying it was a big deal with cheney...so why aren't you upset now?

    Are you suggesting that saying something is a big fucking deal is equivalent to telling someone to go fuck himself??
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,895
    scb wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Starfall wrote:

    Right, because obviously when Dick "5-Deferment-Chickenhawk" Cheney tells a sitting Senator (Pat Leahy) to "Go Fuck Yourself" it's perfectly fine. :roll:

    Yep, it was. Again, not a big deal.

    Seems to me that you are saying it was a big deal with cheney...so why aren't you upset now?

    Are you suggesting that saying something is a big fucking deal is equivalent to telling someone to go fuck himself??

    Yep, I have no problem with either and both are really about word choice.

    If cheney had said..."aw get out of here" and Biden had said "This is monumental"..both would have never come up. It was about the use of a bad word.
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  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    cincybearcat wrote:
    scb wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Yep, it was. Again, not a big deal.

    Seems to me that you are saying it was a big deal with cheney...so why aren't you upset now?

    Are you suggesting that saying something is a big fucking deal is equivalent to telling someone to go fuck himself??

    Yep, I have no problem with either and both are really about word choice.

    If cheney had said..."aw get out of here" and Biden had said "This is monumental"..both would have never come up. It was about the use of a bad word.

    I dont' have a problem with the word in and of itself, but I disagree that its use in these two cases was equally benign. In Biden's case, he was just expressing a high level of enthusiasm. In Cheney's case, it was a personal attack.

    Here's how you can tell the difference: Post something here about how fucking excited you are about the new PJ tour. Then post something telling Kat (or anyone else) to go fuck herself. See which one gets you banned.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,895
    scb wrote:
    I dont' have a problem with the word in and of itself, but I disagree that its use in these two cases was equally benign. In Biden's case, he was just expressing a high level of enthusiasm. In Cheney's case, it was a personal attack.

    Here's how you can tell the difference: Post something here about how fucking excited you are about the new PJ tour. Then post something telling Kat (or anyone else) to go fuck herself. See which one gets you banned.

    You are also missing context. But whatever, I disagree because I feel Cheney was attacked because of the word choice, not for the "attack". Just my perspective.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Anyone who looks at a politician as a role model needs their head checked (current, past or dead). Personally I have no role models, and to me, saying you do is silly. People have specific admirable traits which may reflect our perspective or done things we respect, but certainly no one is perfect by any means of the imagination.

    People in our nation are weak, soft and vindictive.
    aerial wrote:
    +1

    Don’t some people look at the President and the Vice president as role models?
    I can see the High School graduates this year as they walk getting to the mike and shouting “This is a Big “FUCKING DEAL!”
    But you are right ...I don’t know why this was surprising to me.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    cincybearcat wrote:

    You are also missing context. But whatever, I disagree because I feel Cheney was attacked because of the word choice, not for the "attack". Just my perspective.

    sorry but you're off the mark here.

    One, I was pointing out the inherent hypocrisy of aerial condemning Biden and the White House for a lack of civility when Biden wasn't even the first VP to use the F word.

    Two. Biden gets a pass for two reasons. First was scb's defense. Second, Bono got a similar pass years ago at an awards ceremony for exactly the same reason scb cited: the use of the word in an exclamatory or celebratory fashion hardly equates to the common vulgar use of it.
    "It's not hard to own something. Or everything. You just have to know that it's yours, and then be willing to let it go." - Neil Gaiman, "Stardust"
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    FiveB247x wrote:
    I think it's funny that most of the anti-Obama people (whether religious, conservative or right wing) will find any reason under the sun to chastise this administration...and at least 50% is nothing more than nonsense. The same could be said about many from the left during Bush. Can't we just all agree our government and both parties suck ass

    +1
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,895
    Starfall wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:

    You are also missing context. But whatever, I disagree because I feel Cheney was attacked because of the word choice, not for the "attack". Just my perspective.

    sorry but you're off the mark here.

    One, I was pointing out the inherent hypocrisy of aerial condemning Biden and the White House for a lack of civility when Biden wasn't even the first VP to use the F word.

    Two. Biden gets a pass for two reasons. First was scb's defense. Second, Bono got a similar pass years ago at an awards ceremony for exactly the same reason scb cited: the use of the word in an exclamatory or celebratory fashion hardly equates to the common vulgar use of it.

    I agree with your first point.

    It doesn't matter anyway...but I'm not sure how I can be "off the mark" when I was giving you my opinion on whether or not either were a big deal. I'm off the mark on my own opinion? So I must be pissed off about Cheney and just don't know it yet? ;)
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Dick Cheney says, "Go fuck yourself."
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    cincybearcat wrote:

    I agree with your first point.

    It doesn't matter anyway...but I'm not sure how I can be "off the mark" when I was giving you my opinion on whether or not either were a big deal. I'm off the mark on my own opinion? So I must be pissed off about Cheney and just don't know it yet? ;)

    LOL no. Cheney isn't being maligned because of the F word. He's being maligned because of his snide, imperious, contemptuous, and abhorrent attitude toward anyone who disagrees with him. I think that his infamous response of "So?" to the question of why he supports a war that the American people overwhelmingly disagree with it is equally, if not more so, despicable. No wonder he left office with an 11% approval rating. :mrgreen:

    Your opinion is just as valid as mine, obviously. ;)
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,895
    Starfall wrote:

    Your opinion is just as valid as mine, obviously. ;)


    Now that is inflammatory speech!!!!!!!! I'm outraged!!
    hippiemom = goodness
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,470
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Starfall wrote:

    Your opinion is just as valid as mine, obviously. ;)


    Now that is inflammatory speech!!!!!!!! I'm outraged!!
    LOL...easy now guys, we can't be having witty banter on here now :lol::lol:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."

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