Health care reform means more power for the IRS

aerial
aerial Posts: 2,319
edited March 2010 in A Moving Train
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/polit ... 81377.html

This sucks because the IRS is not even approachable....and we thought insurance companies are a pain in the ass to deal with now we will have to deal with the IRS other than for our taxes but for our Health..... :cry:
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
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  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    Well, it was only a matter of time before those evil scary IRS agents were invoked by right wingers over healthcare. It's not like they haven't done anything of the sort. :lol:
    "It's not hard to own something. Or everything. You just have to know that it's yours, and then be willing to let it go." - Neil Gaiman, "Stardust"
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Why is the IRS so scary? I have been paying taxes since 1971 and have never had a problem with them.
    I am truthful about my income and report what I make and pay my share of taxes... I have no reason to fear them.
    Now, if you are a liar and a cheat... and lie about your income... then, yeah, you should be scared of them.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    This healthcare bill has made Santa Claus more powerful, boy I sure hate it.
    CONservative governMENt

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  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    FiveB247x wrote:
    This healthcare bill has made Santa Claus more powerful, boy I sure hate it.

    the reason they shoved it down our throats for over a year was to get it passed in time for easter because of the easter amendment pork in it, just you wait....you all thought cadbery eggs wouldn't get smaller????
    don't compete; coexist

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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    This healthcare bill has made Santa Claus more powerful, boy I sure hate it.

    the reason they shoved it down our throats for over a year was to get it passed in time for easter because of the easter amendment pork in it, just you wait....you all thought cadbery eggs wouldn't get smaller????
    ...
    Mmmmm... Easter Pork.
    ...
    And why are egg laying rabbits associated with Jesus' Resurrection?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Cosmo wrote:
    Why is the IRS so scary? I have been paying taxes since 1971 and have never had a problem with them.
    I am truthful about my income and report what I make and pay my share of taxes... I have no reason to fear them.
    Now, if you are a liar and a cheat... and lie about your income... then, yeah, you should be scared of them.
    :roll:
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Why is the IRS so scary? I have been paying taxes since 1971 and have never had a problem with them.
    I am truthful about my income and report what I make and pay my share of taxes... I have no reason to fear them.
    Now, if you are a liar and a cheat... and lie about your income... then, yeah, you should be scared of them.
    :roll:
    ...
    Seriously. Why do you fear the IRS? Are you a liar and cheat on your 1040?
    Are you also afraid of cops?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    Sadly, this reminds me of all those arguments right wingers tossed about the Bush illegal wiretapping and surveillance:
    "If you have nothing to hide, why should you be worried?"
    :lol:
    "It's not hard to own something. Or everything. You just have to know that it's yours, and then be willing to let it go." - Neil Gaiman, "Stardust"
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Cosmo wrote:
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    This healthcare bill has made Santa Claus more powerful, boy I sure hate it.

    the reason they shoved it down our throats for over a year was to get it passed in time for easter because of the easter amendment pork in it, just you wait....you all thought cadbery eggs wouldn't get smaller????
    ...
    Mmmmm... Easter Pork.
    ...
    And why are egg laying rabbits associated with Jesus' Resurrection?

    Thats funny. Egg laying rabbits, I never thought of that before.

    Still laughing!
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Starfall wrote:
    Sadly, this reminds me of all those arguments right wingers tossed about the Bush illegal wiretapping and surveillance:
    "If you have nothing to hide, why should you be worried?"
    :lol:
    ...
    Yeah. I have heard people against Health Care Reform say that if you don't pay for the coverage, you will be rounded up and tossed in jail. And they were serious.
    The SAME people that didn't give a shit about warrantless wiretap.
    Why is the government only scary when your party is not in office?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Why is the IRS so scary? I have been paying taxes since 1971 and have never had a problem with them.
    I am truthful about my income and report what I make and pay my share of taxes... I have no reason to fear them.
    Now, if you are a liar and a cheat... and lie about your income... then, yeah, you should be scared of them.
    :roll:
    ...
    Seriously. Why do you fear the IRS? Are you a liar and cheat on your 1040?
    Are you also afraid of cops?
    I don't fear IRS yet....I just don't like to deal with them.....my God you have to hold longer than 20 min. to even talk to someone, I don't lie or cheat...... There are more reasons to have to deal with the IRS than just being in trouble....
    They are like the Credit Bureau as They are not accountable for anything they do.....it takes so much paper work just to correct a mistake THEY made it’s ridiculous!
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • KDH12
    KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    I called the IRS last week and it was fine

    I was on hold for about 7 minutes that lady was very nice and super helpful

    and she was not outsourced to a call center in India
    **CUBS GO ALL THE WAY IN......never **
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    KDH12 wrote:
    I called the IRS last week and it was fine

    I was on hold for about 7 minutes that lady was very nice and super helpful

    and she was not outsourced to a call center in India
    Well my story is a lot different from yours....and I have been dealing with them for about 9 months now....
    If you have never had a discrepancy with them consider yourself lucky
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    edited March 2010
    aerial wrote:
    I don't fear IRS yet....I just don't like to deal with them.....my God you have to hold longer than 20 min. to even talk to someone, I don't lie or cheat...... There are more reasons to have to deal with the IRS than just being in trouble....
    They are like the Credit Bureau as They are not accountable for anything they do.....it takes so much paper work just to correct a mistake THEY made it’s ridiculous!
    ...
    So... you have never had any bad dealings with the IRS, other than being put on hold for 20 minutes.
    You are honest... truthful on you 1040 Form. They are not coming to get you because there are people out there who lie and cheat... or try to do some crazy shit like that guy who flew his plane into their office. He and his friends tried to claim themselves as a religion to gain the same tax exempt status as the Catholic Church. He was fucking with them and they weren't buying it.
    ...
    And to ease your mind... I HAVE had a dealing with the IRS:
    I took out money from my salaried savings plan at work for a down payment on my house. I moved it to my savings account of an interim period before escrow.
    The sudden rise and fall in my bank account was reported, as it should be, to the IRS. They sent me a letter stating that they were conducting an investigation because the money did not appear anywhere on my 1040.
    I wrote back and explained that the savings was taxed, prior to being entered in my account. I told them to contact me to set up a visit. They did... I had my employer draft a letter stating the fact that the amounts were pre-taxed and provided the forms needed. I brought in the 1099-Int form from my bank as well as the escrow documents. Less than 10 minutes and the investigation was closed.
    See... not scary unless you are a criminal.
    Post edited by Cosmo on
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    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    KDH12 wrote:
    I called the IRS last week and it was fine

    I was on hold for about 7 minutes that lady was very nice and super helpful

    and she was not outsourced to a call center in India
    Well my story is a lot different from yours....and I have been dealing with them for about 9 months now....
    If you have never had a discrepancy with them consider yourself lucky
    ...
    Nine months?
    If you have the proper documents, it's 10 minutes. If you lost your 1099 forms, you can call the bank or financial institution to get copies. if it is back 1040s... they have them on record and can supply you with them.
    Nine months... sounds like they are asking for something... that you are not providing.
    ...
    Like i said, I gave them my work phone number and told them to call me to set up an apppointment. It cost me 32 cents for the stamp.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    I don't fear IRS yet....I just don't like to deal with them.....my God you have to hold longer than 20 min. to even talk to someone, I don't lie or cheat...... There are more reasons to have to deal with the IRS than just being in trouble....
    They are like the Credit Bureau as They are not accountable for anything they do.....it takes so much paper work just to correct a mistake THEY made it’s ridiculous!
    ...
    So... you have never had any bad dealings with the IRS, other than being put on hold for 20 minutes.
    You are honest... truthful on you 1040 Form. They are not coming to get you because there are people out there who lie and cheat... or try to do some crazy shit like that guy who flew his plane into their office. He and his friends tried to claim themselves as a religion to gain the same tax exempt status as the Catholic Church. He was fucking with them and they weren't buying it.
    ...
    And to ease your mind... I HAVE had a dealing with the IRS:
    I took out money from my salaried savings plan at work for a down payment on my house. I moved it to my savings account of an interim period before escrow.
    The sudden rise and fall in my bank account was reported, as it should be, to the IRS. They sent me a letter stating that they were conducting an investigation because the money did not appear anywhere on my 1040.
    I wrote back and explained that the savings was taxed, prior to being entered in my account. I told them to contact me to set up a visit. They did... I had my employer draft a letter stating the fact that the amounts were pre-taxed and provided the forms needed. I brought in the 1099-Int form from my bank as well as the escrow documents. Less than 10 minutes and the investigation was closed.
    See... not scary unless you are criminal.
    This is exactly why I am dealing with them....And how ironic that the company that is scamming people just happened to be hired by the IRS to collect back taxes......yes the IRS has hired collection agencies to collect back taxes now....My case has nothing to do with any mistake or wrong doing by me....There are investigators investigating this on the federal level now...but that took about 4 days and 12 hours to get that going....there just a HUGE HASSLE !!!! It has nothing to do with anything they want from me....it is misinformation a company sent in about me and others saying they forgave a debt...which is concidered earned income....I have never dealt with this company in my life....they do this so that they can use the forgiven debt as a tax write off.....and obviously the company does not have to have proof of this forgiven debt or else the IRS would not be hassling me........
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • KDH12
    KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    I just received a damaged package from UPS

    now that is hassle to deal with
    **CUBS GO ALL THE WAY IN......never **
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    This is your motivation for hating the IRS? Well where do we all sign up for that petition... :roll:
    aerial wrote:
    This is exactly why I am dealing with them....And how ironic that the company that is scamming people just happened to be hired by the IRS to collect back taxes......yes the IRS has hired collection agencies to collect back taxes now....My case has nothing to do with any mistake or wrong doing by me....There are investigators investigating this on the federal level now...but that took about 4 days and 12 hours to get that going....there just a HUGE HASSLE !!!! It has nothing to do with anything they want from me....it is misinformation a company sent in about me and others saying they forgave a debt...which is concidered earned income....I have never dealt with this company in my life....they do this so that they can use the forgiven debt as a tax write off.....and obviously the company does not have to have proof of this forgiven debt or else the IRS would not be hassling me........
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    aerial wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    I don't fear IRS yet....I just don't like to deal with them.....my God you have to hold longer than 20 min. to even talk to someone, I don't lie or cheat...... There are more reasons to have to deal with the IRS than just being in trouble....
    They are like the Credit Bureau as They are not accountable for anything they do.....it takes so much paper work just to correct a mistake THEY made it’s ridiculous!
    ...
    So... you have never had any bad dealings with the IRS, other than being put on hold for 20 minutes.
    You are honest... truthful on you 1040 Form. They are not coming to get you because there are people out there who lie and cheat... or try to do some crazy shit like that guy who flew his plane into their office. He and his friends tried to claim themselves as a religion to gain the same tax exempt status as the Catholic Church. He was fucking with them and they weren't buying it.
    ...
    And to ease your mind... I HAVE had a dealing with the IRS:
    I took out money from my salaried savings plan at work for a down payment on my house. I moved it to my savings account of an interim period before escrow.
    The sudden rise and fall in my bank account was reported, as it should be, to the IRS. They sent me a letter stating that they were conducting an investigation because the money did not appear anywhere on my 1040.
    I wrote back and explained that the savings was taxed, prior to being entered in my account. I told them to contact me to set up a visit. They did... I had my employer draft a letter stating the fact that the amounts were pre-taxed and provided the forms needed. I brought in the 1099-Int form from my bank as well as the escrow documents. Less than 10 minutes and the investigation was closed.
    See... not scary unless you are criminal.
    This is exactly why I am dealing with them....And how ironic that the company that is scamming people just happened to be hired by the IRS to collect back taxes......yes the IRS has hired collection agencies to collect back taxes now....My case has nothing to do with any mistake or wrong doing by me....There are investigators investigating this on the federal level now...but that took about 4 days and 12 hours to get that going....there just a HUGE HASSLE !!!! It has nothing to do with anything they want from me....it is misinformation a company sent in about me and others saying they forgave a debt...which is concidered earned income....I have never dealt with this company in my life....they do this so that they can use the forgiven debt as a tax write off.....and obviously the company does not have to have proof of this forgiven debt or else the IRS would not be hassling me........

    My guess is if W was still in office and he signed a bill into law and the IRS was the enforcer the people on this board would be going ballistic :? :? .
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Listen our nation is very dim and very partisan, but what does the IRS seriously have to do with this? It's an afterthought about nothing. This is like saying you hate and fear the police much more after a day later passing a law they had to enforce. Seems pretty nonsensical and pulling at straws.
    lukin2006 wrote:
    My guess is if W was still in office and he signed a bill into law and the IRS was the enforcer the people on this board would be going ballistic :? :? .
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis

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