New NFL OT rules

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

basically, if the team that win the coin flip scores a fg, the other team get a chance to match or win with a TD.

IMO, it should be more like the college rule. instead of starting each possesion on the 25 yard line, you line up like normal and kick it away. each team gets a shot at the ball until a winner is decided. or put it at the 35 yard line and have at it.

as written, the new rule is pretty stupid. imo of course
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  • CServant
    CServant DCO Posts: 1,182
    I agree with you 81. Why don't they just say each team gets the ball at least once and go from there???
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    CServant wrote:
    I agree with you 81. Why don't they just say each team gets the ball at least once and go from there???

    Well these men are Pros and it should be different from college players, I like the new OT rules. it would have been an embrassment to have a Super Bowl and OT and one team wins the flip scores and game over. BTW what happens if the first team scores a TD, does the opposing team has to score a TD also? i'd look it up but I've got to run.


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  • Break The Sky
    Break The Sky Posts: 1,276
    I don't see what was wrong with the coin flip. Football is a game of chance. Probably the worst part of this whole change is that every time a game goes into overtime I'm going to have to listen to some high school drop out announcers bicker over, "Should they kick the field goal or go for the win?!?!?!?!? Under the old rules you wouldn't have to worry about this! Then when the coach loses the game I'll have to listen to ESPN say for the rest of the week, "This new overtime rule is fantastic! It makes the coaches have to think more! This week the coach picked the wrong choice though!

    Want to know the reason football is so much better than soccer? There's always a winner. A game ends in a tie once every blue moon. This is about to change, and football is about to become just another boring sport.
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  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,337
    I think they need a version of the college system.

    If you win the flip in the NFL, you instantly have a 60% chance of winning. Pretty sad to have a season determined by a coin flip.

    The college system is at least fair. Both teams get a shot, have the same opportunity...
    If they didn't want to DO the college system, at least give each offense and defense a shot.
    Like 81 said, I think if they didn't want to put the ball on the 35, at least give both teams a chance to start from a kickoff.
  • g under p
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    Big Drop wrote:
    IWant to know the reason football is so much better than soccer? There's always a winner. A game ends in a tie once every blue moon. This is about to change, and football is about to become just another boring sport.

    As far as soccer goes the rest of the world may disagree with you though.

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  • MrMerkinball
    MrMerkinball Posts: 1,978
    I think they got it right. It's a good idea
  • and this is why I love baseball.

    not controlled by the clock.

    teams need to get every last out or even strike for that matter.
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    and this is why I love baseball.

    not controlled by the clock.

    teams need to get every last out or even strike for that matter.

    Football is little bit more physical then Baseball

    They can't play forever like some baseball games going 19 innings
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  • g under p wrote:
    CServant wrote:
    I agree with you 81. Why don't they just say each team gets the ball at least once and go from there???

    Well these men are Pros and it should be different from college players, I like the new OT rules. it would have been an embrassment to have a Super Bowl and OT and one team wins the flip scores and game over. BTW what happens if the first team scores a TD, does the opposing team has to score a TD also? i'd look it up but I've got to run.


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    If the team that wins the toss scores a TD, game over. It only keeps teams from playing for the easy field goal victory.

    It seems stupid but we may have had a different champion this year had that rule been in place. It will make a difference.

    But still, each team should be guaranteed to touch the ball once. If things are tied after that, then go true sudden death.
  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    What a crock. This is nothing more than a ploy to extend football games and extract more TV revenue money.
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  • g under p
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    g under p wrote:
    CServant wrote:
    I agree with you 81. Why don't they just say each team gets the ball at least once and go from there???

    Well these men are Pros and it should be different from college players, I like the new OT rules. it would have been an embrassment to have a Super Bowl and OT and one team wins the flip scores and game over. BTW what happens if the first team scores a TD, does the opposing team has to score a TD also? i'd look it up but I've got to run.


    Peace


    If the team that wins the toss scores a TD, game over. It only keeps teams from playing for the easy field goal victory.

    It seems stupid but we may have had a different champion this year had that rule been in place. It will make a difference.

    But still, each team should be guaranteed to touch the ball once. If things are tied after that, then go true sudden death.

    So you could still have the same situation as before...when you kickoff to start OT and the receiving team scores a TD on that play game over right. Then I don't like the rule, slight improvement, plus it's not being implemented during the regular makes no sense to me.

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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    The college OT is probably the stupidest thing I've ever seen someone come up with in sports rules... How can you play 60 minutes and then entirely change how the sport is played in overtime?

    This NFL rule just seems half-assed to me... If the objective is to take away the advantage of winning the coin toss, why not just make it so that if the team who gets the first possession scores, they have to kick it off? Regardless of a field goal or a touchdown, both teams get the ball. And being only a playoff rule (for now), makes no sense either...
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  • lukin2006
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    Starfall wrote:
    What a crock. This is nothing more than a ploy to extend football games and extract more TV revenue money.

    How do you figure? Of what 512 games last season 15 went to overtime, 12 decided by field goals, hardly a significant number. Now you must earn the win by getting the TD.
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  • lukin2006
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    The college OT is probably the stupidest thing I've ever seen someone come up with in sports rules... How can you play 60 minutes and then entirely change how the sport is played in overtime?

    This NFL rule just seems half-assed to me... If the objective is to take away the advantage of winning the coin toss, why not just make it so that if the team who gets the first possession scores, they have to kick it off? Regardless of a field goal or a touchdown, both teams get the ball. And being only a playoff rule (for now), makes no sense either...

    I agree with you about college football, but how about the NHL? You play 60 minutes, then 5 minute OT, then suddenly it's a shootout, after all hockey is a team game.
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  • lukin2006
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    The college OT is probably the stupidest thing I've ever seen someone come up with in sports rules... How can you play 60 minutes and then entirely change how the sport is played in overtime?

    This NFL rule just seems half-assed to me... If the objective is to take away the advantage of winning the coin toss, why not just make it so that if the team who gets the first possession scores, they have to kick it off? Regardless of a field goal or a touchdown, both teams get the ball. And being only a playoff rule (for now), makes no sense either...

    I agree with you about college football, but how about the NHL? You play 60 minutes, then 5 minute OT, then suddenly it's a shootout, after all hockey is a team game.
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  • mca47 wrote:
    I think they need a version of the college system.

    If you win the flip in the NFL, you instantly have a 60% chance of winning. Pretty sad to have a season determined by a coin flip.

    The college system is at least fair. Both teams get a shot, have the same opportunity...
    If they didn't want to DO the college system, at least give each offense and defense a shot.
    Like 81 said, I think if they didn't want to put the ball on the 35, at least give both teams a chance to start from a kickoff.

    i love college overtime. i was at the syracuse/v. tech game in '05 that went 3OT's. it was pretty exciting.
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  • Starfall
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    lukin2006 wrote:
    Starfall wrote:
    What a crock. This is nothing more than a ploy to extend football games and extract more TV revenue money.

    How do you figure? Of what 512 games last season 15 went to overtime, 12 decided by field goals, hardly a significant number. Now you must earn the win by getting the TD.

    EVERYTHING is about TV revenue is professional sports nowadays. :lol:
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  • lukin2006
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    Starfall wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Starfall wrote:
    What a crock. This is nothing more than a ploy to extend football games and extract more TV revenue money.

    How do you figure? Of what 512 games last season 15 went to overtime, 12 decided by field goals, hardly a significant number. Now you must earn the win by getting the TD.

    EVERYTHING is about TV revenue is professional sports nowadays. :lol:

    These 15 games are not going to extract extra revenue from TV. If this was purely TV revenue then the NFL would have done this years ago, they are the one league that knows how to make money off TV.
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  • mca47
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    The college OT is probably the stupidest thing I've ever seen someone come up with in sports rules... How can you play 60 minutes and then entirely change how the sport is played in overtime?

    This NFL rule just seems half-assed to me... If the objective is to take away the advantage of winning the coin toss, why not just make it so that if the team who gets the first possession scores, they have to kick it off? Regardless of a field goal or a touchdown, both teams get the ball. And being only a playoff rule (for now), makes no sense either...

    College OT is the most fair of any of them (except for baseball).
  • 81
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    The college OT is probably the stupidest thing I've ever seen someone come up with in sports rules... How can you play 60 minutes and then entirely change how the sport is played in overtime?

    This NFL rule just seems half-assed to me... If the objective is to take away the advantage of winning the coin toss, why not just make it so that if the team who gets the first possession scores, they have to kick it off? Regardless of a field goal or a touchdown, both teams get the ball. And being only a playoff rule (for now), makes no sense either...


    perhaps they could play an entire quarter
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