This is what really happen in Afghanistan

ambra333ambra333 Posts: 6
edited April 2010 in A Moving Train
EMERGENCY is an independent and neutral Italian organization founded in order to provide free, high quality medical and surgical treatment to the civilian victims of war, landmines and poverty.
EMERGENCY has build hospitals in Afghanistan too, so we receive daily information from Matteo, the medical coordinator of the Lashkar-gah hospital , please read this:

Afghanistan: February, 15 th

Said Rahman arrived at EMERGENCY's hospital in Lashkar-gah on February 14th.

Early that morning, while in his garden, he was wounded with a direct shot to the chest.
He wasn't patrolling the area. He wasn't fighting. He wasn't pointing at anyone.

Said Rahman didn't even see where the bullet came from. The bullet, still lodged in his body, penetrated his right lung.
All he felt was a strong burning sensation, and then he fainted from the pain.

He was taken to Lashkar-gah in quite unstable condition, with his holding a brand-new teddy bear; a gift from “democracy”.
He looked as if he had a hump on his back from all the blood that had accumulated there.

He underwent surgery immediately. Two thoracic drains, almost bigger than him, were inserted.
Because he's seven years old. Seven.
This is the "great military operation", the greatest

Afghanistan: February, 17 th

She’s dark with thick ebony black hair.

Timidly and without a word, she reached our emergency room.

She was helping with the housework in her home in Marjah.

She went out for a moment to get a pail of water, and in an instant found herself on the ground.

A bullet had perforated her right knee, and blew up the lower part of her thigh.

Her relatives brought her back into the house, where she remained in pain and suffering without treatment for a day and a half.

Then, she was evacuated by helicopter and brought to our hospital.

Now she’s in a clean bed. She underwent surgery and her leg is being maintained in traction. She lies alongside other boys and girls; all of them are being treated and cared for by qualified personnel.

Like each one of us now, she hears the sounds of war all day long. But, at least she’s here. Meanwhile, in the districts many people are succumbing to the inhuman violence of the war without being able to receive treatment.

Who knows if Roqia (that’s her name), 12 ‘Afghan’ years old, is happy not even knowing if her family is alive. Someone has yet to come see her. It’s difficult to leave those villages.

In any case, the ‘great military operation is moving forward beautifully’…

Afghanistan: February, 18 th

Even in Nadali, another district not far from EMERGENCY’s hospital in Lashkar Gah, the battle has been going on for days.

Even there, peace and democracy are on the way.
Akter Mohammed arrived just a short while ago with his father Wali Jan, a man in his sixties with a full white beard.
A bullet, a single bullet, was shot through his head from one side to the other. He’s still alive and undergoing surgery.
His father was shouting and pounding his chest.
Not only for what they had done to his son, but for how they had done it.
Akter was in his own home behind a sunlit window.
With all the sounds of tanks and shooting, curiosity pushed him to take a closer look at what was happening outside.
A soldier caught a glimpse of a figure at a window and took one shot.
One shot to the head.
Then, the soldiers broke into the house yelling and forcing the father to raise his hands; throwing him against the wall.
In a corner under the window, they saw the result of that one shot fired at the figure in the window.
A little nine year old boy. Nine years old.
As soon as they saw him on the floor wounded, they ran out. Not one word uttered.
Not even a dog is left like that

Afghanistan: February, 19

Gulaly has beautifully braided dark hair and bright blue eyes. She was in front of her home in Dilaram, another village not far beyond the Grishk district, where she was tending to a few animals; like those most Afghans own that allow them to survive.

She heard the sounds of war getting closer and she saw her little brother straying afar. She dashed towards him, scooped him up into her arms and ran back home. As soon as she got there, sitting down, she felt a terrible shooting pain along with an intense burning sensation on her right side.

Her mother took a closer look and saw a hole in her daughter’s clothes and blood. Turning her she saw another hole in her back, and more blood.

Her father got her into the car, her uncle’s car, but they only advanced a few meters before they were stopped. They couldn’t go through. The foreigners said it’s late. So they brought her back into the house, and listened to her cries and laments all night long.

Early the next morning they finally managed to get through. Gulalay arrived at the EMERGENCY Surgical Centre in Lashkar-Gah in the early afternoon hours; almost 24 hours after receiving the bullet wound. She immediately underwent surgery, and aside the drainage, is now doing well. But she doesn’t feel like smiling.

Gulalay is 12 years old.

The umpteenth case of “collateral damage”

Afghanistan: February, 21th

Fazel Mohammed has two blue eyes that speak for themselves. His small body is already full of scars; souvenirs from times lost at play and from illnesses that we haven’t known for years now on our side of the world.

One of the few places still unharmed on his body were his knees. But while playing outdoors, a bullet threw him to the ground and left its mark on them forever.

Thanks to his uncle, he reached us three days after injury since he could not leave his house in Marjah before then.

Now he will have two nice scars where that cursed piece of metal, travelling at an absurd speed entered and exited his knee.

He is already on his feet, and wants to go home. He’s worried about his family.

He seems like a man, yet he’s only 10 years old.

At 10, our children are in 5th grade. They aren’t risking their lives in war.

For more info about EMERGENCY: http://www.emergency.it/index.php?ln=En http://www.emergencyusa.org
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
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  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,899
    Yeah you forgot the part where the 20 year old left her husband and the Taliban cut her ears and nose off, don't forget that

    http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/2010/0 ... nose-ears/

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  • alivegirlalivegirl Posts: 124
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    Yeah you forgot the part where the 20 year old left her husband and the Taliban cut her ears and nose off, don't forget that

    You forgot the part where the the US gave the taliban 43 million dollars! :?
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Oh and you forgot the pipeline we've built and the poppy seeds we've grown for our wonderful country....wake the fuck up man, open your fucken eyes. Look around, yes America is a great and proud country, only problem is it's run by devils....
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    do people really care for 10 year olds living in afghanistan? ... they have and always will be the primary victims and sufferers ... i'm pretty sure when congress passes another bill that sends trillions of dollars to missle builders and land mine manufacturers - they don't give a flying fuck because this to them is how you make money ...
  • cajunkiwicajunkiwi Posts: 984
    polaris_x wrote:
    do people really care for 10 year olds living in afghanistan? ... they have and always will be the primary victims and sufferers ... i'm pretty sure when congress passes another bill that sends trillions of dollars to missle builders and land mine manufacturers - they don't give a flying fuck because this to them is how you make money ...

    I think that's precisely the problem - to the government, collateral damage doesn't count. To quote Stalin (I'm not saying I agree with his politics, but this quote is certainly accurate): "One death is a tragedy; one million is a statistic."
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    This is the kind of thing NBC and ABC and CNN (and fucking Fox) need to be airing on the nightly news. I guarantee the average American would not be so supportive if they knew about these kinds of things.
  • ambra333ambra333 Posts: 6
    I don't know if in America some TV or newspeper speak about this but...Do you remember the guy of the NGO EMERGENCY who told what happen in Afghanistan? (first post). On Saturday, April 10, soldiers of the Afghan army and the International Coalition Forces (in particular English Army) attacked the Emergency Surgical Centre of Lashkar-gah and arrested him and two other Italian citizens (they are a surgeon, a nurse and a technician).
    ISAF don't want a witness that don't save only the life of the people but tell what happen too.
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    Yeah you forgot the part where the 20 year old left her husband and the Taliban cut her ears and nose off, don't forget that

    http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/2010/0 ... nose-ears/
    let me ask you a question, do you think this is justification for the US to illegally occupy a sovereign nation and massacre thousands of its inhabitants? if not, then what's your point with that article?

    The fact is that as much as people want to introduce these random stories about what the Taliban do in Afghanistan, it's irrelevant to the fact that American forces are there occupying it illegally. If it's justifiable for the US to occupy a nation because of its human rights violations, then I await the day US forces land on Israel.
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    Commy wrote:
    This is the kind of thing NBC and ABC and CNN (and fucking Fox) need to be airing on the nightly news. I guarantee the average American would not be so supportive if they knew about these kinds of things.
    http://uruknet.info/?p=m64822&fb=1
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Byrnzie wrote:
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    I have seen you post this before, but it never ever ever ceases to make me laugh out loud.
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    ambra333 wrote:
    EMERGENCY is an independent and neutral Italian organization founded in order to provide free, high quality medical and surgical treatment to the civilian victims of war, landmines and poverty.
    EMERGENCY has build hospitals in Afghanistan too, so we receive daily information from Matteo, the medical coordinator of the Lashkar-gah hospital , please read this:

    Afghanistan: February, 15 th

    Said Rahman arrived at EMERGENCY's hospital in Lashkar-gah on February 14th.

    Early that morning, while in his garden, he was wounded with a direct shot to the chest.
    He wasn't patrolling the area. He wasn't fighting. He wasn't pointing at anyone.

    Said Rahman didn't even see where the bullet came from. The bullet, still lodged in his body, penetrated his right lung.
    All he felt was a strong burning sensation, and then he fainted from the pain.

    He was taken to Lashkar-gah in quite unstable condition, with his holding a brand-new teddy bear; a gift from “democracy”.
    He looked as if he had a hump on his back from all the blood that had accumulated there.

    He underwent surgery immediately. Two thoracic drains, almost bigger than him, were inserted.
    Because he's seven years old. Seven.
    This is the "great military operation", the greatest

    Afghanistan: February, 17 th

    She’s dark with thick ebony black hair.

    Timidly and without a word, she reached our emergency room.

    She was helping with the housework in her home in Marjah.

    She went out for a moment to get a pail of water, and in an instant found herself on the ground.

    A bullet had perforated her right knee, and blew up the lower part of her thigh.

    Her relatives brought her back into the house, where she remained in pain and suffering without treatment for a day and a half.

    Then, she was evacuated by helicopter and brought to our hospital.

    Now she’s in a clean bed. She underwent surgery and her leg is being maintained in traction. She lies alongside other boys and girls; all of them are being treated and cared for by qualified personnel.

    Like each one of us now, she hears the sounds of war all day long. But, at least she’s here. Meanwhile, in the districts many people are succumbing to the inhuman violence of the war without being able to receive treatment.

    Who knows if Roqia (that’s her name), 12 ‘Afghan’ years old, is happy not even knowing if her family is alive. Someone has yet to come see her. It’s difficult to leave those villages.

    In any case, the ‘great military operation is moving forward beautifully’…

    Afghanistan: February, 18 th

    Even in Nadali, another district not far from EMERGENCY’s hospital in Lashkar Gah, the battle has been going on for days.

    Even there, peace and democracy are on the way.
    Akter Mohammed arrived just a short while ago with his father Wali Jan, a man in his sixties with a full white beard.
    A bullet, a single bullet, was shot through his head from one side to the other. He’s still alive and undergoing surgery.
    His father was shouting and pounding his chest.
    Not only for what they had done to his son, but for how they had done it.
    Akter was in his own home behind a sunlit window.
    With all the sounds of tanks and shooting, curiosity pushed him to take a closer look at what was happening outside.
    A soldier caught a glimpse of a figure at a window and took one shot.
    One shot to the head.
    Then, the soldiers broke into the house yelling and forcing the father to raise his hands; throwing him against the wall.
    In a corner under the window, they saw the result of that one shot fired at the figure in the window.
    A little nine year old boy. Nine years old.
    As soon as they saw him on the floor wounded, they ran out. Not one word uttered.
    Not even a dog is left like that

    Afghanistan: February, 19

    Gulaly has beautifully braided dark hair and bright blue eyes. She was in front of her home in Dilaram, another village not far beyond the Grishk district, where she was tending to a few animals; like those most Afghans own that allow them to survive.

    She heard the sounds of war getting closer and she saw her little brother straying afar. She dashed towards him, scooped him up into her arms and ran back home. As soon as she got there, sitting down, she felt a terrible shooting pain along with an intense burning sensation on her right side.

    Her mother took a closer look and saw a hole in her daughter’s clothes and blood. Turning her she saw another hole in her back, and more blood.

    Her father got her into the car, her uncle’s car, but they only advanced a few meters before they were stopped. They couldn’t go through. The foreigners said it’s late. So they brought her back into the house, and listened to her cries and laments all night long.

    Early the next morning they finally managed to get through. Gulalay arrived at the EMERGENCY Surgical Centre in Lashkar-Gah in the early afternoon hours; almost 24 hours after receiving the bullet wound. She immediately underwent surgery, and aside the drainage, is now doing well. But she doesn’t feel like smiling.

    Gulalay is 12 years old.

    The umpteenth case of “collateral damage”

    Afghanistan: February, 21th

    Fazel Mohammed has two blue eyes that speak for themselves. His small body is already full of scars; souvenirs from times lost at play and from illnesses that we haven’t known for years now on our side of the world.

    One of the few places still unharmed on his body were his knees. But while playing outdoors, a bullet threw him to the ground and left its mark on them forever.

    Thanks to his uncle, he reached us three days after injury since he could not leave his house in Marjah before then.

    Now he will have two nice scars where that cursed piece of metal, travelling at an absurd speed entered and exited his knee.

    He is already on his feet, and wants to go home. He’s worried about his family.

    He seems like a man, yet he’s only 10 years old.

    At 10, our children are in 5th grade. They aren’t risking their lives in war.

    For more info about EMERGENCY: http://www.emergency.it/index.php?ln=En http://www.emergencyusa.org


    When a group of people continually poke a bear and hide among the innocent, who's fault is it when the innocents are then harmed?
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    When a group of people continually poke a bear and hide among the innocent, who's fault is it when the innocents are then harmed?
    that's the best analogy you can come up with about an international crisis? a group of people poking fucking yogi bear? give me a break.

    and for your information, I don't care how you try to spin it, but if you are holding a gun and you shoot someone, you killed that person and it's your fault. i don't care what your intentions were but that's how it works, don't blame anyone else for your mistakes, and when I say mistake I don't mean you dropped someone's fucking ice cream cone, I mean you ended someone's life.
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    _outlaw wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    When a group of people continually poke a bear and hide among the innocent, who's fault is it when the innocents are then harmed?
    that's the best analogy you can come up with about an international crisis? a group of people poking fucking yogi bear? give me a break.

    and for your information, I don't care how you try to spin it, but if you are holding a gun and you shoot someone, you killed that person and it's your fault. i don't care what your intentions were but that's how it works, don't blame anyone else for your mistakes, and when I say mistake I don't mean you dropped someone's fucking ice cream cone, I mean you ended someone's life.


    I was never, nor am I now, for the use of military force as an offensive measure. I don't think we should be there any more than anywhere else. My question was more about who should the international community direct their anger towards? Relax man, you really jumped on me there while assuming quite a lot
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  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    Yeah you forgot the part where the 20 year old left her husband and the Taliban cut her ears and nose off, don't forget that

    http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/2010/0 ... nose-ears/

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    I've heard "we should respect their culture" before.
    ...well, this is their culture.

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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    _outlaw wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    When a group of people continually poke a bear and hide among the innocent, who's fault is it when the innocents are then harmed?
    that's the best analogy you can come up with about an international crisis? a group of people poking fucking yogi bear? give me a break.

    and for your information, I don't care how you try to spin it, but if you are holding a gun and you shoot someone, you killed that person and it's your fault. i don't care what your intentions were but that's how it works, don't blame anyone else for your mistakes, and when I say mistake I don't mean you dropped someone's fucking ice cream cone, I mean you ended someone's life.


    I was never, nor am I now, for the use of military force as an offensive measure. I don't think we should be there any more than anywhere else. My question was more about who should the international community direct their anger towards? Relax man, you really jumped on me there while assuming quite a lot
    my point still stands, and just because you say you don't support the war doesn't make your previous comment any less disturbing. The American military has a choice when it comes to this occupation, and it has chosen to continue, and even increase their aggression despite the obvious effects it has taken on civilian life there. Assigning blame to the Taliban for American rockets is a foolish thing to suggest.
  • cajunkiwicajunkiwi Posts: 984
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    _outlaw wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    When a group of people continually poke a bear and hide among the innocent, who's fault is it when the innocents are then harmed?
    that's the best analogy you can come up with about an international crisis? a group of people poking fucking yogi bear? give me a break.

    and for your information, I don't care how you try to spin it, but if you are holding a gun and you shoot someone, you killed that person and it's your fault. i don't care what your intentions were but that's how it works, don't blame anyone else for your mistakes, and when I say mistake I don't mean you dropped someone's fucking ice cream cone, I mean you ended someone's life.


    I was never, nor am I now, for the use of military force as an offensive measure. I don't think we should be there any more than anywhere else. My question was more about who should the international community direct their anger towards? Relax man, you really jumped on me there while assuming quite a lot

    I'm no bear expert, but if you poke one and run away, it'll probably lash out at the first thing it sees. I'd like to think a "civilized" country would be slightly more discriminating than an animal that eats trash to survive...

    And the international community is directing plenty of anger towards the Taliban - however, there is enough anger left over to direct some towards the people who armed the Taliban in the first place too. Those people poking bears are using sniper rifles and Stinger missiles - weapons that they didn't exactly find hidden under rocks.

    And while I don't think for a minute that 9/11 was actually a Bush-perpetrated conspiracy, he is still the one who ignored a August 2001 briefing titled "Bin Laden Determined To Attack Inside US."
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    CJMST3K wrote:
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    Yeah you forgot the part where the 20 year old left her husband and the Taliban cut her ears and nose off, don't forget that

    http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/2010/0 ... nose-ears/

    t1larg-bibi.jpg?w=640


    I've heard "we should respect their culture" before.
    ...well, this is their culture.

    r.e.s.p.e.c.t.
    that's right. this is their culture. since, you know, it only takes a CNN article to understand a people's culture, of course. I mean, if I were to find a CNN article about American soldiers who raped Iraqi women and murdered families overseas, then obviously it would be the most accurate reflection of American culture.

    kill the terrorists!!!! long live America!!!!!!!!!!
  • cajunkiwicajunkiwi Posts: 984
    CJMST3K wrote:
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    Yeah you forgot the part where the 20 year old left her husband and the Taliban cut her ears and nose off, don't forget that

    http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/2010/0 ... nose-ears/

    t1larg-bibi.jpg?w=640


    I've heard "we should respect their culture" before.
    ...well, this is their culture.

    r.e.s.p.e.c.t.

    So it's okay to disrespect an entire nation simply because a segment of the population is batshit crazy?
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    _outlaw wrote:
    that's right. this is their culture. since, you know, it only takes a CNN article to understand a people's culture, of course. I mean, if I were to find a CNN article about American soldiers who raped Iraqi women and murdered families overseas, then obviously it would be the most accurate reflection of American culture.

    kill the terrorists!!!! long live America!!!!!!!!!!

    cajunkiwi wrote:

    So it's okay to disrespect an entire nation simply because a segment of the population is batshit crazy?


    This story is just pointing out what will get worse when the US eventually leaves.

    What I'm saying is that a lot of people want the US out of the mid-east. In Iraq when the turmoil was flaming up between the different regions, a number of people were protesting the US staying, which would mean MORE of this type of stuff would have happened. Whether violence from the Taliban in Afghanistan, or Badr Brigade in Iraq, I don't have a problem with the US military helping out the local governments. Like in Iraq for example, members of the Badr Brigade were inserting drills into peoples brains while they were alive, and scrambling their brains and killing them slowly, and people were protesting at that time the US staying to help stop that. So it would have been more humane to leave at that point and let that happen over and over?

    I have no problem with the US staying and trying to get the governments on two-feet, and help that government be somewhat stable. Obama is understanding this, which is why he still has them there.

    Perhaps I chose a bad way to make that point, whether you agree with the point or not.
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  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    CJMST3K wrote:
    _outlaw wrote:
    that's right. this is their culture. since, you know, it only takes a CNN article to understand a people's culture, of course. I mean, if I were to find a CNN article about American soldiers who raped Iraqi women and murdered families overseas, then obviously it would be the most accurate reflection of American culture.

    kill the terrorists!!!! long live America!!!!!!!!!!

    cajunkiwi wrote:

    So it's okay to disrespect an entire nation simply because a segment of the population is batshit crazy?


    This story is just pointing out what will get worse when the US eventually leaves.

    What I'm saying is that a lot of people want the US out of the mid-east. In Iraq when the turmoil was flaming up between the different regions, a number of people were protesting the US staying, which would mean MORE of this type of stuff would have happened. Whether violence from the Taliban in Afghanistan, or Badr Brigade in Iraq, I don't have a problem with the US military helping out the local governments. Like in Iraq for example, members of the Badr Brigade were inserting drills into peoples brains while they were alive, and scrambling their brains and killing them slowly, and people were protesting at that time the US staying to help stop that. So it would have been more humane to leave at that point and let that happen over and over?

    I have no problem with the US staying and trying to get the governments on two-feet, and help that government be somewhat stable. Obama is understanding this, which is why he still has them there.

    Perhaps I chose a bad way to make that point, whether you agree with the point or not.

    That's a possible 20-50 year mi$$ion you are willing to agree with. Is that really where you want to spend your money? How many other middle eastern countries do you want to invade and "help the people"? Because Iraq and Afghanistan certainly are not the only countries with inhumane practices. Do you even think about this shit before you type and post?

    And the worst part about your logic is that none of it works. America invading these countries makes the violence worse amongst their own people. We are not helping them. Let's stay the fuck out of their world and concentrate on our own problems!!!
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    brandon10 wrote:
    Do you even think about this shit before you type and post?

    nope.

    brandon10 wrote:
    Let's stay the fuck out of their world and concentrate on our own problems!!!

    I agree, and we did for a long while. That comes back to bite us.
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  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    CJMST3K wrote:
    brandon10 wrote:
    Do you even think about this shit before you type and post?

    nope.

    brandon10 wrote:
    Let's stay the fuck out of their world and concentrate on our own problems!!!

    I agree, and we did for a long while. That comes back to bite us.


    When have we stayed out of their world???
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    When a group of people continually poke a bear and hide among the innocent, who's fault is it when the innocents are then harmed?

    Sounds like this came right out of the training manual. So,


    --Who are the innocent when everyone is seen as the enemy?

    --Where does a person hide when they're already home?

    --We are the pokers, we don't announce our comings and going, so non-combatants suffer the consequences.

    The term collateral damage simply removes the burden of their actions from them and places the blame on the enemy they were hunting. The fact that non-combatants were harmed or killed was due to those non-combatants being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    --It will never makes a difference if your a man, woman, or child, the bullet is always aimed at the enemy
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    As soon as the U.S. leaves everything will revert to the good old days.
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
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