What happened to the old ticket system?
Back in 2003 I remember getting a list of the shows in the mail. I picked the two shows I wanted to attend, sent in a certified check or money order, and I had the tickets. It felt like being in the fan club was worth it because of that privilege. This online pre-sale system makes me wonder a little bit about the benefits of the fan club. I mean, I've always been a member because I thought it gave me an "in" when it came to tickets.
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And I still own cassette tapes.
its the grateful dead ticket order service. has been in effect for decades and it is still used today for most Grateful Dead related bands.
its fool proof. very rarely do you get shut out.
your tickets are determined by the date/time of the postmark as they are recieved.
http://www.gdtstoo.com/GDTSTOOInstru.html
Tweeter Center, Camden - 5/27/06
Verizon Center, Wash. DC - 5/30/06
Bonnaroo, Manchester, TN - 6/14/08
Madison Square Garden, NYC - 6/19/08
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/28/09
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/30/09
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/31/09
Madison Square Garden, NYC - 5/21/10
Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 10/21/13
Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 4/28/16
Enterprise Center, Saint Louis - 9/18/22
See also: bands that no one gives a crap about & are not beating a path to their door when on tour.
The Grateful Dead died with Jerry. (The Other Ones & Bobby Weir with his big gray Jerry beard don't count) Coincidentally, that's about the same time technology picked up.
Anyway, the old ticket system must a have been a mess logistically for those managing it.
The online system is fine, its evolved.
However, I agree with a ticket limit per say. Allowing a limited number of shows to each member would cut down on excessive demand and the entitlement issue some members seem to have.
Another thing I would like to see is if the tickets are limited, free up the first two rows
I think there were probably alot less people using it for tickets back then as well, because the internet was in its infancy, and it didn't seem to be wide knowledge it was a benefit of being in the 10c (unless you had joined the 10c).
Also because you had to send it in, so far in advance, there was never access to ticket 2nd night tickets.. 1st shows were always 10c ticket shows, if they played a 2nd night, we never got access to those tickets.
so theres pros and cons from the old system. not to mention we were all sending the forms back via courier because it was first come first serve.
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Plenty of clubs charge, and not everybody gets tickets to every show that they want. When bands start to suck, there are plenty of ways to entice fans to get to the shows.
Agreed but they don't require you to try for hours to get tickets. When they are sold out, you know immediately. Based on what 10 club said with the 10 minute limit on carts, why would it take hours for a sold out to show up?
Um... because the world is an imperfect place? In other clubs, you don't necessarily know immediately, in some, you put your request in & it says "pending" for days and days until finally you get a "no."
Things could be a lot worse.
Which club is that?
Doesn't Ticketmaster run some of those fan club presales you mentioned? I want no part of that, thanks...
And as for 10-C, it's not at all that they want it to be random -- it's the opposite, in fact. They want the people with the most tenure to get the beast seats (other than the lottery). This gives them incentive to hang on to their membership, meaning they'll keep paying dues and NOT scalp the seats. Whereas with the Ticketmaster type presale it is truly random -- anyone can nab the front row. And if I just paid $15 for a Muse membership and can make $500 on the front-row tickets and then re-join the club next year with no penalty, why wouldn't I?
In the end, I think they have the right system. If anything, maybe a DMB-style sign-up would work best where you're not guaranteed to get tickets, but if you do they're by seniority (with the rows 1-2 and 9-10 by lottery). But I would absolutely want 10-C, not Ticketmaster, running that.
made him ... want to be everywhere
there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
I fought the WASTE server for three hours for 2008 Radiohead tickets to Camden, fwiw.
made him ... want to be everywhere
there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
As did I but that was 2 years ago. The Thom Yorke presale was smooth as can be and they were high demand shows in NY.
Yeah I definitely understand that there are other presales out there that run more smoothly (or at least end more quickly). But I'd prefer 10-C to retain full control of the tickets.
made him ... want to be everywhere
there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
It took me a couple hours to buy Radiohead tickets for Cleveland through WASTE in 2008, so the 10 Club system isn't the only one that can take a long time to get through.
edit - oops, skipped the last few posts and didn't notice a couple people already mentioned sales through WASTE from 2008. Anyway, there is no way they could go back to the index card system from before.
Philly-8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/3/05, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 4/28/16, 4/29/16
Jones Beach-8/25/00
PSU-5/3/03
Irvine-6/2/03
San Diego-6/5/03
Hershey-7/12/03
Reading-10/1/04
The Gorge-9/1/05
Vancouver-9/2/05
AC-9/30/05
E. Rutherford, NJ-6/1/06,6/3/06
Bonnaroo-6/14/08
VA Beach-6/17/08
MSG-5/20/10,5/21/10
Baltimore 10/27/13
Not exactly -- they split the tickets up into a bunch of batches, based on seniority. So if you were like #10,001, you were in the first/best batch.
Arriving at the venue first that day ensured you'd get the best pair within your batch, but if your number was really high you still ended up far back. And if you were #10,001 and you showed up at 8pm, you were still third row or whatever.
made him ... want to be everywhere
there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
I see you joined in 1998 -- the glory days -- my buddy and I talk about this every time tixx go on sale. It probably was a nightmare for the 10 club staff, what it was a dream for the fan club members.
You are correct. But there was no prioritization within each batch, which caused people to camp out at the ticket windows well before the show.
Bottom line, that was a pain in the ass and the system in place now is MUCH better, imo.
Philly-8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/3/05, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 4/28/16, 4/29/16
Jones Beach-8/25/00
PSU-5/3/03
Irvine-6/2/03
San Diego-6/5/03
Hershey-7/12/03
Reading-10/1/04
The Gorge-9/1/05
Vancouver-9/2/05
AC-9/30/05
E. Rutherford, NJ-6/1/06,6/3/06
Bonnaroo-6/14/08
VA Beach-6/17/08
MSG-5/20/10,5/21/10
Baltimore 10/27/13
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Totally.
The one and only time that system really worked for me was when they played Albany in 2003. I ended up with front row of the second section back on the floor & I didn't pick up my tickets until about 10 minutes before they went on.
That was when people on the boards started bitching about why blind people got priority seating since they didn't technically need it.
they said that you did
but not for augusta maine