anyone else feeling ... shafted ?

dendron8

So, I live in Raleigh, NC, we havent had a show here since 2003.

The last time PJ was in this state was 2004, Asheville.

I drove to Va Beach in 08, which wasnt too bad but still an almost 4 hour drive. DC is the closest this time, and thats a good 5+ hours from here.

I love PJ to death, but I am starting to feel like the red-headed step child and my excitement is dwindling that I will ever see them again within this state.

I am sure some others feel the same way... ?

Stryker

I live in New York, so no.

JonnyPistachio

dendron8 wrote:

So, I live in Raleigh, NC, we havent had a show here since 2003.

The last time PJ was in this state was 2004, Asheville.

I drove to Va Beach in 08, which wasnt too bad but still an almost 4 hour drive. DC is the closest this time, and thats a good 5+ hours from here.

I love PJ to death, but I am starting to feel like the red-headed step child and my excitement is dwindling that I will ever see them again within this state.

I am sure some others feel the same way... ?

Florida, and NOPE!

LoveBoatAdmiral

Check out the 10C ticket sales for the cities that haven't gotten a concert in a while. There's a reason they play the cities they do.

teflonsteve

I drove 8 and 12 hour drives last tour. Shortest I've ever driven for Pearl Jam is 4 hours. Sure it sucks, but there are some places they have never played.

RockMama

Just think about the poor folks in Alaska and you'll feel better.

dendron8

LoveBoatAdmiral wrote:

Check out the 10C ticket sales for the cities that haven't gotten a concert in a while. There's a reason they play the cities they do.

not saying theres not good reason... im sure they have data to back up their decisions. just saying i wish they would come closer.

Jukee

I live 4 hours away to the closest town Pearl Jam plays (Toronto) from me. I'm driving to Buffalo this time which is another 1.5 hours passed Toronto (that's if I can score tickets tomorrow) so to answer your question nope.

Backspacer_Backer

LoveBoatAdmiral wrote:

Check out the 10C ticket sales for the cities that haven't gotten a concert in a while. There's a reason they play the cities they do.

there's no way to know how many tickets have sold for these shows. just because there are 10c tickets remaining, doesn't mean the sales are poor. chicago last year (when it was one of a handful of dates) took several days to sell out fan club seats. the allotments have gone up.

to the OP - when their "tours" consist of 11 or 12 dates, it's mathematically impossible for them to get to secondary markets more than once a decade.

neilybabes86

northeast here ...nuff said

dendron8

Backspacer_Backer wrote:

LoveBoatAdmiral wrote:

Check out the 10C ticket sales for the cities that haven't gotten a concert in a while. There's a reason they play the cities they do.

there's no way to know how many tickets have sold for these shows. just because there are 10c tickets remaining, doesn't mean the sales are poor. chicago last year (when it was one of a handful of dates) took several days to sell out fan club seats. the allotments have gone up.

to the OP - when their "tours" consist of 11 or 12 dates, it's mathematically impossible for them to get to secondary markets more than once a decade.

yep - when you have 12 dates and 4 of them are either boston or ny, stretches the rest pretty thin. agree.

goingtoverona

you people that keep complaining need to understand that this "tour" is a bonus for america. if you go back and read the first tweet announcing an announcement you will clearly see that it says this thing almost didn't even happen at all. it sounds to me pearl jam and company went out of their way to make sure us americans got lttle taste before they went to europe. now i don't know about you, but given the choice of pearl jam not very close to me or no pearl jam at all, i'll take the first one.

dendron8

goingtoverona wrote:

you people that keep complaining need to understand that this "tour" is a bonus for america. if you go back and read the first tweet announcing an announcement you will clearly see that it says this thing almost didn't even happen at all. it sounds to me pearl jam and company went out of their way to make sure us americans got lttle taste before they went to europe. now i don't know about you, but given the choice of pearl jam not very close to me or no pearl jam at all, i'll take the first one.

well, thats your opinion and you are certainly entitled. i can see your viewpoint.. i just dont happen to agree. "bonus" is a subjective term. if pj is not coming close and i cant go, it really makes no difference to me whether they tour or not. that might excite you, but im not on that bandwagon.

zootown

dendron8 wrote:

So, I live in Raleigh, NC, we havent had a show here since 2003.

The last time PJ was in this state was 2004, Asheville.

I drove to Va Beach in 08, which wasnt too bad but still an almost 4 hour drive. DC is the closest this time, and thats a good 5+ hours from here.

I love PJ to death, but I am starting to feel like the red-headed step child and my excitement is dwindling that I will ever see them again within this state.

I am sure some others feel the same way... ?

Uh, sorry no sympathy here. In the west, 4 or 5 hour drive is NOTHING! The closest they have come to Missoula since 05 is Seattle (8.5 hour drive in good weather)....

wnh1977

Backspacer_Backer wrote:

no way to know how many tickets have sold for these shows. just because there are 10c tickets remaining, doesn't mean the sales are poor. chicago last year (when it was one of a handful of dates) took several days to sell out fan club seats. the allotments have gone up.

to the OP - when their "tours" consist of 11 or 12 dates, it's mathematically impossible for them to get to secondary markets more than once a decade.

I think this is a great point. We have no way to know the exact details that go in to this. Maybe the Ten Club fought for the fan club ticket allotments to go up, but they had to slightly increase ticket prices in return? What I'm saying is that I believe Ten Club has done everything in their power to try to appease the fans, especially the fan clubbers.

As Backspacer_Backer said, maybe the pre-sales for the first 4 midwest shows went fine, but the Ten Club just had a humongous allotment to serve every fan that wanted to go?

To respond to the original poster, no I don't feel shafted and I live in Iowa. The closest I've ever been to a show is probably 3.5 hours.

dendron8

zootown wrote:

dendron8 wrote:

So, I live in Raleigh, NC, we havent had a show here since 2003.

The last time PJ was in this state was 2004, Asheville.

I drove to Va Beach in 08, which wasnt too bad but still an almost 4 hour drive. DC is the closest this time, and thats a good 5+ hours from here.

I love PJ to death, but I am starting to feel like the red-headed step child and my excitement is dwindling that I will ever see them again within this state.

I am sure some others feel the same way... ?

Uh, sorry no sympathy here. In the west, 4 or 5 hour drive is NOTHING! The closest they have come to Missoula since 05 is Seattle (8.5 hour drive in good weather)....

yikes... that definitely trumps me.

demetrios

I live in a small town on the far East Coast of Canada. My home is a shrine to Pearl Jam. I've been collecting, listening, sharing the exprience & have fallen in love with their music since '91. Does my small town ever get to see Pearl Jam? Just once in '05. It's all single airplane rides for me. Closest drive to a Pearl Jam show in Canada for me is Montreal & that's an 11 hour drive. My year's before & year's after that time, it's a routine fact that for I to see my favorite band on the planet live on stage, I have to travel. Sucks, but there's nothing else I can do. I don't feel like moving cause of my family. Family comes first. The more I bitch & complain about getting Pearl Jam again here again, isn't worth it. Work hard, don't waste those sick day's, plan out a long vacation time off & save some money in a Pearl Jam jar for those times they come around close to your state.

dendron8

demetrios wrote:

I live in a small town on the far East Coast of Canada. My home is a shrine to Pearl Jam. I've been collecting, listening, sharing the exprience & have fallen in love with their music since '91. Does my small town ever get to see Pearl Jam? Just once in '05. It's all single airplane rides for me. Closest drive to a Pearl Jam show in Canada for me is Montreal & that's an 11 hour drive. My year's before & year's after that time, it's a routine fact that for I to see my favorite band on the planet live on stage, I have to travel. Sucks, but there's nothing else I can do. I don't feel like moving cause of my family. Family comes first. The more I bitch & complain about getting Pearl Jam again here again, isn't worth it. Work hard, don't waste those sick day's, plan out a long vacation time off & save some money in a Pearl Jam jar for those times they come around close to your state.

another story more dire than mine. thanks for these replies... im feeling better already

wnh1977

dendron8 wrote:

well, thats your opinion and you are certainly entitled. i can see your viewpoint.. i just dont happen to agree. "bonus" is a subjective term. if pj is not coming close and i cant go, it really makes no difference to me whether they tour or not. that might excite you, but im not on that bandwagon.

I'm just wondering why you can't go. You're in North Carolina, not Alaska (as somebody else mentioned). Why couldn't you go to Bristow, Va? That's like a 4 hour drive. I've went to 20 Pearl Jam shows in my life and never had a show closer than 3.5 hours. They always take a commitment of time, money, and travel. It sounds to me like you're not willing to travel, spend some money, or take time off work. Hey, I can't blame you... it is an expensive commitment to do that. But there are obviously a ton of fans that are willing to do this.

I'm not trying to attack you here... but it doesn't sound like Pearl Jam in their 40s with families are going to be hitting 40 shows on a massive North American tour anytime soon. I won't blame you for not making a commitment to go see them... but you shouldn't blame them for touring how they want to.

dendron8

wnh1977 wrote:

Backspacer_Backer wrote:

no way to know how many tickets have sold for these shows. just because there are 10c tickets remaining, doesn't mean the sales are poor. chicago last year (when it was one of a handful of dates) took several days to sell out fan club seats. the allotments have gone up.

to the OP - when their "tours" consist of 11 or 12 dates, it's mathematically impossible for them to get to secondary markets more than once a decade.

I think this is a great point. We have no way to know the exact details that go in to this. Maybe the Ten Club fought for the fan club ticket allotments to go up, but they had to slightly increase ticket prices in return? What I'm saying is that I believe Ten Club has done everything in their power to try to appease the fans, especially the fan clubbers.

As Backspacer_Backer said, maybe the pre-sales for the first 4 midwest shows went fine, but the Ten Club just had a humongous allotment to serve every fan that wanted to go?

To respond to the original poster, no I don't feel shafted and I live in Iowa. The closest I've ever been to a show is probably 3.5 hours.

ya thats tough. glad to hear these stories.

btw, is there still a carlos o kellys in cedar rapids? i used to work for them and went to the one that was in (i think) marion when i was younger.

dendron8

wnh1977 wrote:

dendron8 wrote:

well, thats your opinion and you are certainly entitled. i can see your viewpoint.. i just dont happen to agree. "bonus" is a subjective term. if pj is not coming close and i cant go, it really makes no difference to me whether they tour or not. that might excite you, but im not on that bandwagon.

I'm just wondering why you can't go. You're in North Carolina, not Alaska (as somebody else mentioned). Why couldn't you go to Bristow, Va? That's like a 4 hour drive. I've went to 20 Pearl Jam shows in my life and never had a show closer than 3.5 hours. They always take a commitment of time, money, and travel. It sounds to me like you're not willing to travel, spend some money, or take time off work. Hey, I can't blame you... it is an expensive commitment to do that. But there are obviously a ton of fans that are willing to do this.

I'm not trying to attack you here... but it doesn't sound like Pearl Jam in their 40s with families are going to be hitting 40 shows on a massive North American tour anytime soon. I won't blame you for not making a commitment to go see them... but you shouldn't blame them for touring how they want to.

my reasons for not being able to go are my own. no offense, but i certainly am not going to discuss my personal life on a message board.

i understand i should not expect a massive tour. im not blaming them or anyone. my point was to see if anyone else was in the same boat as me regarding proximity / travel / budget. sounds like thats an overwhelming "yes" and "thats a silly question".