anyone else feeling ... shafted ?
So, I live in Raleigh, NC, we havent had a show here since 2003.
The last time PJ was in this state was 2004, Asheville.
I drove to Va Beach in 08, which wasnt too bad but still an almost 4 hour drive. DC is the closest this time, and thats a good 5+ hours from here.
I love PJ to death, but I am starting to feel like the red-headed step child and my excitement is dwindling that I will ever see them again within this state.
I am sure some others feel the same way... ?
The last time PJ was in this state was 2004, Asheville.
I drove to Va Beach in 08, which wasnt too bad but still an almost 4 hour drive. DC is the closest this time, and thats a good 5+ hours from here.
I love PJ to death, but I am starting to feel like the red-headed step child and my excitement is dwindling that I will ever see them again within this state.
I am sure some others feel the same way... ?
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Florida, and NOPE!
2008- Boston I+II
2009- Toronto, Philly III+IV
2010- Bristow, Hartford, Boston, Newark
9/22/05 - Halifax
6/19/08 - Camden
6/28/08 - Mansfield
9/07/11 - Montreal
5/05/16 - Quebec City
Most recent: 2018 Stadium shows: Seattle 2, Missoula, Fenway 1 and 2; 2022: Oakland 1 and 2
not saying theres not good reason... im sure they have data to back up their decisions. just saying i wish they would come closer.
there's no way to know how many tickets have sold for these shows. just because there are 10c tickets remaining, doesn't mean the sales are poor. chicago last year (when it was one of a handful of dates) took several days to sell out fan club seats. the allotments have gone up.
to the OP - when their "tours" consist of 11 or 12 dates, it's mathematically impossible for them to get to secondary markets more than once a decade.
yep - when you have 12 dates and 4 of them are either boston or ny, stretches the rest pretty thin. agree.
well, thats your opinion and you are certainly entitled. i can see your viewpoint.. i just dont happen to agree. "bonus" is a subjective term. if pj is not coming close and i cant go, it really makes no difference to me whether they tour or not. that might excite you, but im not on that bandwagon.
Uh, sorry no sympathy here. In the west, 4 or 5 hour drive is NOTHING! The closest they have come to Missoula since 05 is Seattle (8.5 hour drive in good weather)....
I think this is a great point. We have no way to know the exact details that go in to this. Maybe the Ten Club fought for the fan club ticket allotments to go up, but they had to slightly increase ticket prices in return? What I'm saying is that I believe Ten Club has done everything in their power to try to appease the fans, especially the fan clubbers.
As Backspacer_Backer said, maybe the pre-sales for the first 4 midwest shows went fine, but the Ten Club just had a humongous allotment to serve every fan that wanted to go?
To respond to the original poster, no I don't feel shafted and I live in Iowa. The closest I've ever been to a show is probably 3.5 hours.
2000: 8/15, 8/18, 10/9, 10/11, 10/12
2003: 6/18, 6/21, 6/22
2005: 9/9, 9/28
2006: 5/16, 5/17, 6/26, 6/27
2007: 8/5
2009: 8/23, 8/24
2010: 5/3, 5/4, 5/21
2011: 9/3, 9/4, 9/11, 9/12
2013: 7/19, 11/16
2014: 10/3, 10/9, 10/12, 10/17
2016: 4/16, 8/20, 8/22
2018: 8/18, 8/20, 9/2
2022: 9/18
2023: 8/31, 9/2, 9/5
2024: 5/18, 6/29
yikes... that definitely trumps me.
another story more dire than mine. thanks for these replies... im feeling better already
I'm just wondering why you can't go. You're in North Carolina, not Alaska (as somebody else mentioned). Why couldn't you go to Bristow, Va? That's like a 4 hour drive. I've went to 20 Pearl Jam shows in my life and never had a show closer than 3.5 hours. They always take a commitment of time, money, and travel. It sounds to me like you're not willing to travel, spend some money, or take time off work. Hey, I can't blame you... it is an expensive commitment to do that. But there are obviously a ton of fans that are willing to do this.
I'm not trying to attack you here... but it doesn't sound like Pearl Jam in their 40s with families are going to be hitting 40 shows on a massive North American tour anytime soon. I won't blame you for not making a commitment to go see them... but you shouldn't blame them for touring how they want to.
2000: 8/15, 8/18, 10/9, 10/11, 10/12
2003: 6/18, 6/21, 6/22
2005: 9/9, 9/28
2006: 5/16, 5/17, 6/26, 6/27
2007: 8/5
2009: 8/23, 8/24
2010: 5/3, 5/4, 5/21
2011: 9/3, 9/4, 9/11, 9/12
2013: 7/19, 11/16
2014: 10/3, 10/9, 10/12, 10/17
2016: 4/16, 8/20, 8/22
2018: 8/18, 8/20, 9/2
2022: 9/18
2023: 8/31, 9/2, 9/5
2024: 5/18, 6/29
ya thats tough. glad to hear these stories.
btw, is there still a carlos o kellys in cedar rapids? i used to work for them and went to the one that was in (i think) marion when i was younger.
my reasons for not being able to go are my own. no offense, but i certainly am not going to discuss my personal life on a message board.
i understand i should not expect a massive tour. im not blaming them or anyone. my point was to see if anyone else was in the same boat as me regarding proximity / travel / budget. sounds like thats an overwhelming "yes" and "thats a silly question".
I understand the money/time off thing. I know i get 10 days off a year i save 3 of them to see if they tour or not. There isnt much id rather do so i save my time and money for it. Worse comes to worse if you want money you can find a way to make it. Pick up and extra shift. Sell something stupid you dont use anymore. Or of coarse ask mom for an early Bday present!
I only feel shafted when they only go to far away countries that shits expensive!
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Point is I will go where I have to to see them but I do understand not everyone is willing or able to go into financial debt for frivolous things that make them really happy. It might not be in their nature but for me having fun and making memories is my number 1 in life, really always has been, party girl here but even more so now that the clock is a tickin.
I think you may have to change your way of thinking and embrace travel and debt to see the amount of PJ that will satisfy you.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
I completely agree with that! Philly 1 was a good time, and even the short trips to Hartford for me is still a different experience than say Boston..
its all about the money now, and they know they cant charge 80 bucks a ticket outside of certain areas.
Look at Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico too. I don't understand the Vegas and Phoenix thing at all. The shows were always sold out and HUGE. Hell, Phoenix made it on touring band a couple of times from 2000. Phoenix was a regular stop until 2003. :(
I've seen PJ nearly 20 times.. the shortest travel time I've ever experienced was last year when they played calgary (I now reside in Edmonton) so a 2.5 hour drive. In all the shows I've seen that was the shortest trip.
I grew up in Victoria (and other towns on Vancouver Island). So from victoria to vancouver, it was always about 30 mins to the ferry, wait 30 mins for the ferry.. 1 hour 40 mins on ferry.. 45 minute drive to vancouver.. so roughly 3.5 hours travelling time.. if I went to seattle add 1.5 hours.. so 5 hours travelling time.. if they played at the gorge add another 2.5.. so 7.5 hours travelling time
longest I ever drove to see PJ was Edmonton to the Gorge (14 hours) or similarly.. Victoria to Missoula in '98... probably similar length.
If I knew where it was I would take you there. There's much more than this