Ok...I have a question...and it's one of the reasons I'm skeptical about home schooling and home schooled kids...
What parent (teacher in this case) gets a book for a kid for school...and doesn't have ANY idea at the content. Just hands it over for the kid to start learning? Seems like very lazy home-schooling if you ask me.
Who wrote the laws of nature?
The important point is not that there are regularities in nature, but that these regularities are mathematically precise, universal, and tied together. Einstein spoke of them as "reason incarnate." The question we should ask is how nature came packaged in this fashion. This is certainly the question that scientists from Newton to Einstein to Heisenberg have asked-and answered. Their answer was the Mind of God.
Also, many prominent scientists of the modern era have regarded the laws of nature as thought of the Mind of God. Stephen Hawking ends his best selling A Brief History of Time with this quote:
"If we discover a complete theory, it should in time be understandable by everyone, not just a few scientists. Then we shall all, philosophers , scientists and just ordinary people, be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason-for then we should know the mind of God."
On the previous page he asked: "Even if there is only one possible unified theory, it is just a set of rules and equations. What is it that breathes fire into the equations and makes a universe for them to describe?"
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Who wrote the laws of nature?
The important point is not that there are regularities in nature, but that these regularities are mathematically precise, universal, and tied together. Einstein spoke of them as "reason incarnate." The question we should ask is how nature came packaged in this fashion. This is certainly the question that scientists from Newton to Einstein to Heisenberg have asked-and answered. Their answer was the Mind of God.
Also, many prominent scientists of the modern era have regarded the laws of nature as thought of the Mind of God. Stephen Hawking ends his best selling A Brief History of Time with this quote:
"If we discover a complete theory, it should in time be understandable by everyone, not just a few scientists. Then we shall all, philosophers , scientists and just ordinary people, be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason-for then we should know the mind of God."
On the previous page he asked: "Even if there is only one possible unified theory, it is just a set of rules and equations. What is it that breathes fire into the equations and makes a universe for them to describe?"
You people keep glossing over the basic definition of "theory" and continue to spew your pseudoscience gobbledy-gook in the hopes that nobody will notice that your emperor is wearing no clothes. In fact, there's quite a bit of controversy over whether or not "string theory" is even a valid scientific theory. Because the predictions it makes currently aren't testable or observable in any form.
Believe whatever you want, but keep the bullshit out of the science classroom.
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Who wrote the laws of nature?
The important point is not that there are regularities in nature, but that these regularities are mathematically precise, universal, and tied together. Einstein spoke of them as "reason incarnate." The question we should ask is how nature came packaged in this fashion. This is certainly the question that scientists from Newton to Einstein to Heisenberg have asked-and answered. Their answer was the Mind of God.
Also, many prominent scientists of the modern era have regarded the laws of nature as thought of the Mind of God. Stephen Hawking ends his best selling A Brief History of Time with this quote:
"If we discover a complete theory, it should in time be understandable by everyone, not just a few scientists. Then we shall all, philosophers , scientists and just ordinary people, be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason-for then we should know the mind of God."
On the previous page he asked: "Even if there is only one possible unified theory, it is just a set of rules and equations. What is it that breathes fire into the equations and makes a universe for them to describe?"
You people keep glossing over the basic definition of "theory" and continue to spew your pseudoscience gobbledy-gook in the hopes that nobody will notice that your emperor is wearing no clothes. In fact, there's quite a bit of controversy over whether or not "string theory" is even a valid scientific theory. Because the predictions it makes currently aren't testable or observable in any form.
Believe whatever you want, but keep the bullshit out of the science classroom.
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) -- Home-school mom Susan Mule wishes she hadn't taken a friend's advice and tried a textbook from a popular Christian publisher for her 10-year-old's biology lessons.
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really???
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Considering that Darwinism and evolution are theories, I wouldn't mind that these theories are not included in my kid's textbook. When someone proves evolution exists, then I would believe it. Since no one has proved it, or even come close, then I say leave it out of the textbooks.
do you even know what science is??? ALL OF SCIENCE IS BASED ON THEORIES!!!!!!! this is the way it works. You cannot prove a theory. EVER!!!!!!! You can find evidence to support a theory, and until such time as evidence to the contrary is discovered, a theory stands. Theories are based on evidence which can be shown experimentally or through natural observation. And since evolution can be observed... IT IS A THEORY!!!!!!
Creationism, or whatever the fuck you want to call it, can neither be shown experimentall, nor through natural observation. It is a matter of faith. And therefore has ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE IN A CLASSROOM!!!!!
**class dismissed**
experimentall = experimental
See how annoying it is to be corrected
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
Washington Times Op-ed—Socialization not a Problem
by J. Michael Smith
HSLDA President
One of the most persistent criticisms of homeschooling is the accusation that homeschoolers will not be able to fully participate in society because they lack “socialization.” It’s a challenge that reaches right to the heart of homeschooling, because if a child isn’t properly socialized, how will that child be able to contribute to society?
Since the re-emergence of the homeschool movement in the late 1970s, critics of homeschooling have perpetuated two myths. The first concerns the ability of parents to adequately teach their own children at home; the second is whether homeschooled children will be well-adjusted socially.
Proving academic success is relatively straightforward. Today, it is accepted that homeschoolers, on average, outperform their public school peers. The most recent study, “Homeschool Progress Report 2009,” conducted by Brian Ray of the National Home Education Research Institute, surveyed more than 11,000 homeschooled students. It showed that the average homeschooler scored 37 percentile points higher on standardized achievement tests than the public school average.
The second myth, however, is more difficult to address because children who were homeschooled in appreciable numbers in the late 1980s and early 1990s are only now coming of age and in a position to demonstrate they can succeed as adults.
Homeschool families across the nation knew criticisms about adequate socialization were ill-founded—they had the evidence right in their own homes. In part to address this question from a research perspective, the Home School Legal Defense Association commissioned a study in 2003 titled “Homeschooling Grows Up,” conducted by Mr. Ray, to discover how homeschoolers were faring as adults. The news was good for homeschooling. In all areas of life, from gaining employment, to being satisfied with their homeschooling, to participating in community activities, to voting, homeschoolers were more active and involved than their public school counterparts.
Until recently, “Homeschooling Grows Up” was the only study that addressed the socialization of home-schooled adults. Now we have a new longitudinal study titled “Fifteen Years Later: Home-Educated Canadian Adults” from the Canadian Centre for Home Education. This study surveyed homeschooled students whose parents participated in a comprehensive study on home education in 1994. The study compared homeschoolers who are now adults with their peers. The results are astounding.
When measured against the average Canadians ages 15 to 34 years old, home-educated Canadian adults ages 15 to 34 were more socially engaged (69 percent participated in organized activities at least once per week, compared with 48 percent of the comparable population). Average income for homeschoolers also was higher, but perhaps more significantly, while 11 percent of Canadians ages 15 to 34 rely on welfare, there were no cases of government support as the primary source of income for homeschoolers. Homeschoolers also were happier; 67.3 percent described themselves as very happy, compared with 43.8 percent of the comparable population. Almost all of the homeschoolers—96 percent—thought homeschooling had prepared them well for life.
This new study should cause many critics to rethink their position on the issue of socialization. Not only are homeschoolers actively engaged in civic life, they also are succeeding in all walks of life. Many critics believed, and some parents feared, that homeschoolers would not be able to compete in the job market. But the new study shows homeschoolers are found in a wide variety of professions. Being homeschooled has not closed doors on career choices.
The results are a great encouragement to all homeschooling families and to parents thinking about homeschooling. Homeschoolers, typically identified as being high academic achievers, also can make the grade in society.
Both “Homeschooling Grows Up” and “Fifteen Years Later” amply demonstrate homeschool graduates are active, involved, productive citizens. Homeschool families are leading the way in Canadian and American education, and this new study clearly demonstrates homeschool parents are on the right path.
Michael Smith is the president of the Home School Legal Defense Association. He may be contacted at (540)338-5600; or send email to <!-- e --><a href="mailto:media@hslda.org">media@hslda.org</a><!-- e -->.
As far as evolution verses The Bible that would be up to the parent . . . and neither deserves to be degraded for what choice they make.
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
Washington Times Op-ed—Socialization not a Problem
by J. Michael Smith
HSLDA President
One of the most persistent criticisms of homeschooling is the accusation that homeschoolers will not be able to fully participate in society because they lack “socialization.” It’s a challenge that reaches right to the heart of homeschooling, because if a child isn’t properly socialized, how will that child be able to contribute to society?
Since the re-emergence of the homeschool movement in the late 1970s, critics of homeschooling have perpetuated two myths. The first concerns the ability of parents to adequately teach their own children at home; the second is whether homeschooled children will be well-adjusted socially.
Proving academic success is relatively straightforward. Today, it is accepted that homeschoolers, on average, outperform their public school peers. The most recent study, “Homeschool Progress Report 2009,” conducted by Brian Ray of the National Home Education Research Institute, surveyed more than 11,000 homeschooled students. It showed that the average homeschooler scored 37 percentile points higher on standardized achievement tests than the public school average.
The second myth, however, is more difficult to address because children who were homeschooled in appreciable numbers in the late 1980s and early 1990s are only now coming of age and in a position to demonstrate they can succeed as adults.
Homeschool families across the nation knew criticisms about adequate socialization were ill-founded—they had the evidence right in their own homes. In part to address this question from a research perspective, the Home School Legal Defense Association commissioned a study in 2003 titled “Homeschooling Grows Up,” conducted by Mr. Ray, to discover how homeschoolers were faring as adults. The news was good for homeschooling. In all areas of life, from gaining employment, to being satisfied with their homeschooling, to participating in community activities, to voting, homeschoolers were more active and involved than their public school counterparts.
Until recently, “Homeschooling Grows Up” was the only study that addressed the socialization of home-schooled adults. Now we have a new longitudinal study titled “Fifteen Years Later: Home-Educated Canadian Adults” from the Canadian Centre for Home Education. This study surveyed homeschooled students whose parents participated in a comprehensive study on home education in 1994. The study compared homeschoolers who are now adults with their peers. The results are astounding.
When measured against the average Canadians ages 15 to 34 years old, home-educated Canadian adults ages 15 to 34 were more socially engaged (69 percent participated in organized activities at least once per week, compared with 48 percent of the comparable population). Average income for homeschoolers also was higher, but perhaps more significantly, while 11 percent of Canadians ages 15 to 34 rely on welfare, there were no cases of government support as the primary source of income for homeschoolers. Homeschoolers also were happier; 67.3 percent described themselves as very happy, compared with 43.8 percent of the comparable population. Almost all of the homeschoolers—96 percent—thought homeschooling had prepared them well for life.
This new study should cause many critics to rethink their position on the issue of socialization. Not only are homeschoolers actively engaged in civic life, they also are succeeding in all walks of life. Many critics believed, and some parents feared, that homeschoolers would not be able to compete in the job market. But the new study shows homeschoolers are found in a wide variety of professions. Being homeschooled has not closed doors on career choices.
The results are a great encouragement to all homeschooling families and to parents thinking about homeschooling. Homeschoolers, typically identified as being high academic achievers, also can make the grade in society.
Both “Homeschooling Grows Up” and “Fifteen Years Later” amply demonstrate homeschool graduates are active, involved, productive citizens. Homeschool families are leading the way in Canadian and American education, and this new study clearly demonstrates homeschool parents are on the right path.
Michael Smith is the president of the Home School Legal Defense Association. He may be contacted at (540)338-5600; or send email to <!-- e --><a href="mailto:media@hslda.org">media@hslda.org</a><!-- e -->.
As far as evolution verses The Bible that would be up to the parent . . . and neither deserves to be degraded for what choice they make.
Gee, a study by the home-school institute shows there's nothing wrong with home-schooling. What. A. Shocker. Biased research, reported by a right-wing loony (gotta love Rev. Moon) and published on a biased website. That's three strikes, right?
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experimentall = experimental
See how annoying it is to be corrected
Actually, it was supposed to be "experimentally." It was a typo. Slight difference from a homophone error. :P
It's okay.... we all make mistake......as you know everyone does not have a journalist degree....I hope you put your degree to a better use than correcting people on forums......
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What parent (teacher in this case) gets a book for a kid for school...and doesn't have ANY idea at the content. Just hands it over for the kid to start learning? Seems like very lazy home-schooling if you ask me.
The important point is not that there are regularities in nature, but that these regularities are mathematically precise, universal, and tied together. Einstein spoke of them as "reason incarnate." The question we should ask is how nature came packaged in this fashion. This is certainly the question that scientists from Newton to Einstein to Heisenberg have asked-and answered. Their answer was the Mind of God.
Also, many prominent scientists of the modern era have regarded the laws of nature as thought of the Mind of God. Stephen Hawking ends his best selling A Brief History of Time with this quote:
"If we discover a complete theory, it should in time be understandable by everyone, not just a few scientists. Then we shall all, philosophers , scientists and just ordinary people, be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason-for then we should know the mind of God."
On the previous page he asked: "Even if there is only one possible unified theory, it is just a set of rules and equations. What is it that breathes fire into the equations and makes a universe for them to describe?"
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You people keep glossing over the basic definition of "theory" and continue to spew your pseudoscience gobbledy-gook in the hopes that nobody will notice that your emperor is wearing no clothes. In fact, there's quite a bit of controversy over whether or not "string theory" is even a valid scientific theory. Because the predictions it makes currently aren't testable or observable in any form.
Believe whatever you want, but keep the bullshit out of the science classroom.
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Edit: Misinterpreted your posts......
really???
:roll:
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
See how annoying it is to be corrected
December 14, 2009
http://www.hslda.org/docs/news/washingt ... 912140.asp
Washington Times Op-ed—Socialization not a Problem
by J. Michael Smith
HSLDA President
One of the most persistent criticisms of homeschooling is the accusation that homeschoolers will not be able to fully participate in society because they lack “socialization.” It’s a challenge that reaches right to the heart of homeschooling, because if a child isn’t properly socialized, how will that child be able to contribute to society?
Since the re-emergence of the homeschool movement in the late 1970s, critics of homeschooling have perpetuated two myths. The first concerns the ability of parents to adequately teach their own children at home; the second is whether homeschooled children will be well-adjusted socially.
Proving academic success is relatively straightforward. Today, it is accepted that homeschoolers, on average, outperform their public school peers. The most recent study, “Homeschool Progress Report 2009,” conducted by Brian Ray of the National Home Education Research Institute, surveyed more than 11,000 homeschooled students. It showed that the average homeschooler scored 37 percentile points higher on standardized achievement tests than the public school average.
The second myth, however, is more difficult to address because children who were homeschooled in appreciable numbers in the late 1980s and early 1990s are only now coming of age and in a position to demonstrate they can succeed as adults.
Homeschool families across the nation knew criticisms about adequate socialization were ill-founded—they had the evidence right in their own homes. In part to address this question from a research perspective, the Home School Legal Defense Association commissioned a study in 2003 titled “Homeschooling Grows Up,” conducted by Mr. Ray, to discover how homeschoolers were faring as adults. The news was good for homeschooling. In all areas of life, from gaining employment, to being satisfied with their homeschooling, to participating in community activities, to voting, homeschoolers were more active and involved than their public school counterparts.
Until recently, “Homeschooling Grows Up” was the only study that addressed the socialization of home-schooled adults. Now we have a new longitudinal study titled “Fifteen Years Later: Home-Educated Canadian Adults” from the Canadian Centre for Home Education. This study surveyed homeschooled students whose parents participated in a comprehensive study on home education in 1994. The study compared homeschoolers who are now adults with their peers. The results are astounding.
When measured against the average Canadians ages 15 to 34 years old, home-educated Canadian adults ages 15 to 34 were more socially engaged (69 percent participated in organized activities at least once per week, compared with 48 percent of the comparable population). Average income for homeschoolers also was higher, but perhaps more significantly, while 11 percent of Canadians ages 15 to 34 rely on welfare, there were no cases of government support as the primary source of income for homeschoolers. Homeschoolers also were happier; 67.3 percent described themselves as very happy, compared with 43.8 percent of the comparable population. Almost all of the homeschoolers—96 percent—thought homeschooling had prepared them well for life.
This new study should cause many critics to rethink their position on the issue of socialization. Not only are homeschoolers actively engaged in civic life, they also are succeeding in all walks of life. Many critics believed, and some parents feared, that homeschoolers would not be able to compete in the job market. But the new study shows homeschoolers are found in a wide variety of professions. Being homeschooled has not closed doors on career choices.
The results are a great encouragement to all homeschooling families and to parents thinking about homeschooling. Homeschoolers, typically identified as being high academic achievers, also can make the grade in society.
Both “Homeschooling Grows Up” and “Fifteen Years Later” amply demonstrate homeschool graduates are active, involved, productive citizens. Homeschool families are leading the way in Canadian and American education, and this new study clearly demonstrates homeschool parents are on the right path.
Michael Smith is the president of the Home School Legal Defense Association. He may be contacted at (540)338-5600; or send email to <!-- e --><a href="mailto:media@hslda.org">media@hslda.org</a><!-- e -->.
As far as evolution verses The Bible that would be up to the parent . . . and neither deserves to be degraded for what choice they make.
Actually, it was supposed to be "experimentally." It was a typo. Slight difference from a homophone error. :P
Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll
Gee, a study by the home-school institute shows there's nothing wrong with home-schooling. What. A. Shocker. Biased research, reported by a right-wing loony (gotta love Rev. Moon) and published on a biased website. That's three strikes, right?
Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll