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pjfansince10pjfansince10 Posts: 49
edited September 2008 in The Porch
I apologize if this has been addressed before...but I am curious. I am sitting here at work listening to the Dissident cd's from the Atlanta show on 04/03/94. Just before "Go", I believe Ed says "...this song is for Kurt...good luck".

Kurt is found dead a few days later and the estaimated date of his death is 04/05/94...doesn't that strike anyone else as being a little creepy that the timing is that close? I know about the whole overdose in Rome thing and perhaps Ed was referring to that. It just seems odd and a little too weird. The tone of Ed's voice was almost as if Ed knew it would be ending soon.

Thoughts?
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  • catch22catch22 Posts: 1,081
    pjfansince10 wrote:
    I apologize if this has been addressed before...but I am curious. I am sitting here at work listening to the Dissident cd's from the Atlanta show on 04/03/94. Just before "Go", I believe Ed says "...this song is for Kurt...good luck".

    Kurt is found dead a few days later and the estaimated date of his death is 04/05/94...doesn't that strike anyone else as being a little creepy that the timing is that close? I know about the whole overdose in Rome thing and perhaps Ed was referring to that. It just seems odd and a little too weird. The tone of Ed's voice was almost as if Ed knew it would be ending soon.

    Thoughts?

    kurt was missing at the time and it was public knowledge. he said a few things about hoping kurt was alright too. still kind of creepy though.

    i thought this was going to be an "ed murdered kurt" conspiracy theory... that's be interesting! :)
    and like that... he's gone.
  • The StugotsThe Stugots Posts: 306
    In the month before Kurt died he had overdosed and was in a Rome hospital for a week (speculated he attempted suicide), went through an intervention, checked into and fled rehab and pulled out of Lollapalooza. Doesn't seem odd to be concerned at that point.
  • pjfansince10pjfansince10 Posts: 49
    Well, that makes sense then. I recall hearing about Cobain's death on MTV (back when they actually reported news and played videos) but do not remember that it was known to the public that Kurt was missing.

    Thanks for the info...
  • pjfansince10pjfansince10 Posts: 49
    I was not saying the concern was oddd...just the timing of Ed's words and Cobain's death. Knowing what I know now, it doesn't seem that odd at all.
  • PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,814
    I wasnt' aware Kurt was missing before his death. I know they didn't find him right away, but wouldn't his home be the first place you would look if they were actually looking?

    I know he was found in a section of his property that's probably not a normal place to be but if you're looking for someone, you look everywhere
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  • PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,814
    hartamh wrote:
    Yes, he was found in a room above his garage :(

    but was he actually "missing"?

    I just don't recall that
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    If I remember correctly Vedder was concerned about Kurt's health, Kurt's drug habit and his depression; for quite some time before his death.

    So Vedder, it seems to me, dedicated that song to Kurt as a plead.

    Nothing creepy or supernatural about it. Just a friend pleading with a friend to hang in there and fight through it, type of thing.
  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    PureandEasy wrote:
    but was he actually "missing"?

    I just don't recall that

    He was, he escaped out of rehab. Courtney Love even planted a fake story with the media saying she had OD'ed to get him to come out from where he was hiding.
  • riffrandallriffrandall Posts: 685
    PureandEasy wrote:
    but was he actually "missing"?

    I just don't recall that

    It wasn't like a "calling all cars, Kurt Cobain is missing" kind of news story that went on for days.
    The timing of his being reported 'missing' to the media and when he was found dead were within a few hours of each other.

    I think that given Cobain's state of mind during the early months of 1994 it was very, very natural for Ed to wish Kurt well on stage. Not at all creepy.
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  • PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,814
    thanks for clearing that up, because i had no clue :D
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  • Yellow BedwetterYellow Bedwetter NYC Posts: 2,832
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    He was, he escaped out of rehab. Courtney Love even planted a fake story with the media saying she had OD'ed to get him to come out from where he was hiding.

    so she could let the assassin kno his whereabouts
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  • KimberleeMicheleKimberleeMichele Posts: 67
    If I recall correctly, he left the detox center, and was making his way back to seattle – they DID check the home, but when they checked there, they didn’t find him because he hadn’t arrived there yet.
  • KimberleeMicheleKimberleeMichele Posts: 67
    He was, he escaped out of rehab. Courtney Love even planted a fake story with the media saying she had OD'ed to get him to come out from where he was hiding.
    sorry! didn't see this until after i posted...
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    KimberleeMichele wrote:
    If I recall correctly, he left the detox center, and was making his way back to seattle – they DID check the home, but when they checked there, they didn’t find him because he hadn’t arrived there yet.

    I read that they did check the home and he was already dead above the garage at the time, but the PI they sent to look for him didn't check above the garage...
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  • mini_tbmini_tb Posts: 420
    I remember the day I found out and exactly how I found out. I found out from my dad, who said, "Hey, did you hear your buddy Kurt Cobain shot himself?" That was a sad, sad day for me, and that was definitely not a kind way to break the news!!
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  • TEEJAM11TEEJAM11 Posts: 335
    PureandEasy wrote:
    but was he actually "missing"?

    I just don't recall that



    Yeah kind of strange Miss HOLE would look their...
    My wife would of found my ass..... the house isn't that big....
  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    Yellow Bedwetter wrote:
    so she could let the assassin kno his whereabouts


    Of course, becuase the best way to kill a herion addict who had already tried to kill himself at least once is to hire an assassin, rather than let him take care of it himself.
  • ballgameballgame Posts: 201
    This months Guitar World has a good write up on Kurt and Nirvanas final show. Kurt was in really bad shape the tour before because he couldn’t get drugs and was having serious withdrawals. Said he was going to a Dr for pills every day while on the Euro leg of the tour. About a month or so later he's dead.
  • Thierry HenryThierry Henry Posts: 2,654
    Before his death, he flew into Seattle airport and met Duff.

    Duff offered him a ride but he refused. Think it was on a VR documentry or something. Great story, I know.

    Anyway, I have a concert ticket for the Dublin gig for 8th April 1994.
    I think he was found on the date.

    I came that close to seeing Nirvana live. Pity.
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