U.S. death toll in Afghanistan hits 1,000

otter
otter Posts: 772
edited February 2010 in A Moving Train
Ron Paul has the right idea; bring ALL the troops home.

Obama should have ENDED these wars! He's a pussy.
I found my place......and it's alright
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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Not a pussy - a centrist and inappropriately hyped, sold and bought as something he is not.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • mysticweed
    mysticweed Posts: 3,710
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Not a pussy - a centrist and inappropriately hyped, sold and bought as something he is not.

    So many promises, so much time wasted. Definately not the president he campaigned he would be. True, that he stepped into a WORLD of BUSHSHIT, but more fucking war? Come on!
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Like most politicians, campaign promises are nonsense. People buy into it for whatever the reason. Keep going back to the well America, it's dry.
    lettinggo wrote:
    So many promises, so much time wasted. Definately not the president he campaigned he would be. True, that he stepped into a WORLD of BUSHSHIT, but more fucking war? Come on!
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • mysticweed
    mysticweed Posts: 3,710
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Like most politicians, campaign promises are nonsense. People buy into it for whatever the reason. Keep going back to the well America, it's dry.
    lettinggo wrote:
    So many promises, so much time wasted. Definately not the president he campaigned he would be. True, that he stepped into a WORLD of BUSHSHIT, but more fucking war? Come on!

    Seems we can agree on some things, FiveB
    PEACE brother
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Obama never promised to end the war in Afghanistan, unlike his promise in my sig. even during the primaries his website always stated he would send more troops to Afghanistan and many of the troops in Iraq would be redeployed there.
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    That's actually not true. Obama has been running on the notion of getting us out of Iraq and Afghanistan. As the election grew closer and once he won, he then changed his position to do I send more troops or remove... in which case it was decided to build up.

    Regardless of any of this, he hasn't done what he's said he would do and in many areas, actually done the opposite. Perhaps it was the people buying into a nonsense campaign of change, or perhaps his ideas were nothing more than a pipe dream.. either way.. our political system is a joke. In every major area of policy we do not change... we have one party with one right wing group, and one a little more left-wing group.. but in the end.. both vying to maintain the status-quo.
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    Obama never promised to end the war in Afghanistan, unlike his promise in my sig. even during the primaries his website always stated he would send more troops to Afghanistan and many of the troops in Iraq would be redeployed there.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    FiveB247x wrote:
    That's actually not true. Obama has been running on the notion of getting us out of Iraq and Afghanistan. As the election grew closer and once he won, he then changed his position to do I send more troops or remove... in which case it was decided to build up.

    Regardless of any of this, he hasn't done what he's said he would do and in many areas, actually done the opposite. Perhaps it was the people buying into a nonsense campaign of change, or perhaps his ideas were nothing more than a pipe dream.. either way.. our political system is a joke. In every major area of policy we do not change... we have one party with one right wing group, and one a little more left-wing group.. but in the end.. both vying to maintain the status-quo.
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    Obama never promised to end the war in Afghanistan, unlike his promise in my sig. even during the primaries his website always stated he would send more troops to Afghanistan and many of the troops in Iraq would be redeployed there.



    actually, it's very true

    http://www.boston.com/news/politics/pol ... anist.html
    Obama: Afghanistan, not Iraq, should be focus
    Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor July 15, 2008 02:54 PM

    Barack Obama and John McCain today offered diametrically opposite views of the war in Iraq, even as both called for sending thousands more US troops to Afghanistan.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... efer=india
    August 1st 2007
    Obama Would Send U.S. Troops to Afghanistan, Pakistan

    Aug. 1 (Bloomberg) -- Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said he would pull U.S. troops out of Iraq and send them to Afghanistan and possibly Pakistan, which he called ``the right battlefield'' in the war against terrorism.
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • otter
    otter Posts: 772
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    Obama never promised to end the war in Afghanistan, unlike his promise in my sig. even during the primaries his website always stated he would send more troops to Afghanistan and many of the troops in Iraq would be redeployed there.

    Whatever. He had the opportunity as commander in chief to END these wars and he didn't do it. He could have used all his political capital on this issue. He has no balls. If he did he would have ended the war first thing. First thing he should have done. He's a third rate LBJ/Jimmy Carter. Horrible.
    I found my place......and it's alright
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    One of my major disagreements with The Obama administration is his continuation with the wars in Irag and Afghanistan.

    My friend Michael Franti and SPEARHEAD.....*Time To Go Home*

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    otter wrote:
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    Obama never promised to end the war in Afghanistan, unlike his promise in my sig. even during the primaries his website always stated he would send more troops to Afghanistan and many of the troops in Iraq would be redeployed there.

    Whatever. He had the opportunity as commander in chief to END these wars and he didn't do it. He could have used all his political capital on this issue. He has no balls. If he did he would have ended the war first thing. First thing he should have done. He's a third rate LBJ/Jimmy Carter. Horrible.


    whatever? i'm not defending him i'm just saying there was no reason at all to think he would end the war in Afghanistan, the only war he said he'd end was in Iraq. over a year before the election, while still in the primaries, Obama was saying he would send more troops to Afghanistan so anyone who thought otherwise just wasn't paying attention
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • otter
    otter Posts: 772
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    otter wrote:
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    Obama never promised to end the war in Afghanistan, unlike his promise in my sig. even during the primaries his website always stated he would send more troops to Afghanistan and many of the troops in Iraq would be redeployed there.

    Whatever. He had the opportunity as commander in chief to END these wars and he didn't do it. He could have used all his political capital on this issue. He has no balls. If he did he would have ended the war first thing. First thing he should have done. He's a third rate LBJ/Jimmy Carter. Horrible.


    whatever? i'm not defending him i'm just saying there was no reason at all to think he would end the war in Afghanistan, the only war he said he'd end was in Iraq. over a year before the election, while still in the primaries, Obama was saying he would send more troops to Afghanistan so anyone who thought otherwise just wasn't paying attention

    Your right bro....sorry. I hoped that Obama would do something brave about the war but it was all just an unfounded hope. I am very disapointed in him. I imagined that the peace prize would help him change the present situation. But I guess it's like Debbie Gibson sings "it was only in my dreams"
    I found my place......and it's alright

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