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  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    KevinR wrote:
    facepollution wrote:
    The riff from Sleep Now In The Fire is probably the catchiest one they have!

    FREEDOM

    Great song, but not their catchiest riff, not even close :P
  • tcaporaletcaporale Posts: 1,577
    The first half of Battle for LA is unfuckwithable.
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Bump.

    I've been blasting this album the last few days.

    Tom is an absolute monster and genius on guitar.
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  • All Those YesterdaysAll Those Yesterdays Posts: 2,723
    Digital Twilight wrote:
    Evil Empire is their best album

    I absolutely agree. I put that album on once every couple weeks. First album hasn't been heard in years.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,197
    why now u dont bitching wrote:
    One of the few CDs I ever owned that I can listen to front to back without a thought of skipping anything.

    I totally agree and i must add play it (((((((LOUD))))))! I first heard the riffs waiting for the start up to a RUSH concert and i was like ....who the hell is that, DAMN that's good! Someone next to me told me and i was like ....Rage of da who....? i bought it the very next day.

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  • Black DiamondBlack Diamond Posts: 25,107
    Thierry Henry wrote:
    Digital Twilight wrote:
    Evil Empire is their best album


    FAIL!!!!


    It's all about "Know your enemy".
    FACT.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    I think they broke up because Zach got writer's block on how to work the word "fire" into his lyrics.
    ;)
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Jason P wrote:
    I think they broke up because Zach got writer's block on how to work the word "fire" into his lyrics.
    ;)
    :lol:
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  • Mamasan23Mamasan23 Posts: 16,388
    I LOVE all of Rage's albums, but their S/T was definitely best.

    Anyone ever listen to Zack's hardcore band Inside Out (pre-Rage)? Cool stuff actually:

    http://youtu.be/3ZUKujsqDis
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Mamasan23 wrote:
    I LOVE all of Rage's albums, but their S/T was definitely best.

    Anyone ever listen to Zack's hardcore band Inside Out (pre-Rage)? Cool stuff actually:

    http://youtu.be/3ZUKujsqDis
    That is one angry dude.
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  • drewdawgqdrewdawgq Posts: 168
    It only takes one song to end this discussion.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rASyDOCSmb0
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    All Those Yesterdays wrote:
    Digital Twilight wrote:
    Evil Empire is their best album

    I absolutely agree. I put that album on once every couple weeks. First album hasn't been heard in years.

    revolver is one if my favouritest songs and def my fave RATM song.
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  • smarcheesmarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    picked up the Music on Vinyl repress of this album on vinyl

    sounds fucking awesome !!!
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Check out One Day As a lion, zacks still got it...
  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    I've been on a big Rage kick lately. All their albums are fucking great. I think that Renegades should not be neglected.

    There are some quality covers on that record. I'm Housin' probably being the highlight for me.

    Evil Empire is probably my favorite Rage record though. Revolver, Tire Me, Down Rodeo, Vietnow? Fucking awesome.
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  • restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,951
    i will chime in and say this:

    ive listened to the debut the most,

    but Evil Empire is my favourite of theirs.

    Renegades beats battle of LA for me too. Im a big hiphop fan and love hearing some of those covers...

    but yeah, Tire Me, Revolver, Down Rodeo just too good.

    As i got older singing along to "fuck you i wont do what you tell me....." just lost its appeal for me. dont get me wrong, fantastic debut and agree its one of the best ever.


    Saw Rage in 97 when they only had two albums, and what a setlist, what a night. amazing band.
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  • surforiasurforia SoCal Posts: 352
    First album is one of the greatest debut albums in the last 25 years, along with Ten and Appetite for Destruction. I love Evil Empire, but I feel there's a bit of a dip after "Down Rodeo," where as the self-titled album is badass all the way through - plus self-titled has "Bullet in the Head," which is my favorite RATM song.

    I also like Renegades better than Battle.
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  • MissPennyLaneMissPennyLane Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 687
    Fistful Of Steel......... 8-)
  • drmrkelleydrmrkelley Posts: 141
    I definitely agree this has got to be one of the best debut albums in the last 30 years. My original copy is long gone and scratched so I had really only been listening to bootlegs the last several years. I was at a record shop a couple months ago and picked up a copy. I almost forgot how great this was, start to finish. My second favorite band of all time. I almost wish Mitt Romney would win the election just to piss off Zach De La Rocha so that he can write some more music with the band. The Nightwatchman is good, Audioslave was fantastic, but I really miss Rage Against the Machine.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    drmrkelley wrote:
    I definitely agree this has got to be one of the best debut albums in the last 30 years. My original copy is long gone and scratched so I had really only been listening to bootlegs the last several years. I was at a record shop a couple months ago and picked up a copy. I almost forgot how great this was, start to finish. My second favorite band of all time. I almost wish Mitt Romney would win the election just to piss off Zach De La Rocha so that he can write some more music with the band. The Nightwatchman is good, Audioslave was fantastic, but I really miss Rage Against the Machine.

    george w wasnt enough to get RATM back together so youve got no chance should romney be elected. 8-)
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  • RideRickRideRick Hoorn Posts: 703
    Newch91 wrote:
    That album is mind blowing! Their debut album deserves to be mentioned in greatest debut album talks and lists. It's like every song, 1-10, is genius. One of the finest albums I've heard so far in my life. Anyone else think so?

    Yep, i agree on that too..

    Had jumped together with 70.000 people on "Fuck you, don't do what you tell me' and created a little earthquake at Pinkpop on the scale of Rigter 1.1 :lol:

    Still love this album 8-)
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    catefrances wrote:
    drmrkelley wrote:
    I definitely agree this has got to be one of the best debut albums in the last 30 years. My original copy is long gone and scratched so I had really only been listening to bootlegs the last several years. I was at a record shop a couple months ago and picked up a copy. I almost forgot how great this was, start to finish. My second favorite band of all time. I almost wish Mitt Romney would win the election just to piss off Zach De La Rocha so that he can write some more music with the band. The Nightwatchman is good, Audioslave was fantastic, but I really miss Rage Against the Machine.

    george w wasnt enough to get RATM back together so youve got no chance should romney be elected. 8-)
    :lol:
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    g under p wrote:
    why now u dont bitching wrote:
    One of the few CDs I ever owned that I can listen to front to back without a thought of skipping anything.

    I totally agree and i must add play it (((((((LOUD))))))! I first heard the riffs waiting for the start up to a RUSH concert and i was like ....who the hell is that, DAMN that's good! Someone next to me told me and i was like ....Rage of da who....? i bought it the very next day.

    Peace
    I first heard Killing in the Name Of in 92, at a club....was dancing to the song before and stayed on the floor....by the end I was in this state of complete rapture, tranced out, totally hyped up…..I went and asked the dj who it was, and bought the disc the next day. (man I miss the days when there were clubs playing that kind of stuff in my town!)

    If I could name any band to see live, it would be Rage, hands down. Never had the chance :(
    The debut is amazing….probably their best effort start to finish…but I also think it sounds the most dated of their albums.
    Surprised none of the BOLA fans have mentioned Ashes in the Fall, that’s prob my fav track on that album.
  • faceinthecloudsfaceintheclouds Posts: 1,739
    FenwayFaithful wrote:
    Township Rebellion
    Best song ever. And evil empire does not compare to first album.
    Just, not enough.
    I need more.
    Nothing seems to satisfy.
    I said, I dont want it.
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    faceintheclouds wrote:
    FenwayFaithful wrote:
    Township Rebellion
    Best song ever. And evil empire does not compare to first album.

    Agreed. Wasn't going to say anything, but... "Why stand on a silent platform?"

    Fuking great band. Just wicked. Won't bore anyone with my Rage story, but Fuk me... these guys are awesome. Evil Empire was great, but how could they ever top their first? If they did, we'd all run the risk of being those characters in Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny after Jack Black "... did not mean... to blow your mind..." That shit happens all the time.

    I'm not confident they will ever put out another album, but (similar to how I feel about Tool) I'd rather they not- at least until they are ready- and have us wishing than putting out a piece of shit to satisfy a label and manager.
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  • Weab76Weab76 Posts: 55
    A truly immense record. One of those rare albums that sounds just as powerful now as when you first heard it. Great band.
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    I'm not confident they will ever put out another album, but (similar to how I feel about Tool) I'd rather they not- at least until they are ready- and have us wishing than putting out a piece of shit to satisfy a label and manager.

    Tool has been putting work into a new album and according to DC they're recording in the fall. Hopefully a step up from the last one. Not a bad album, but a lateral move for a band that's so big on moving forward. Hard to compete with masterworks like AEnema and Lateralus.

    Does Rage have another album in them? Maybe, but I think they're getting up there where instead of raging they're more inclined to politely debate.
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    faceintheclouds wrote:
    FenwayFaithful wrote:
    Township Rebellion
    Best song ever. And evil empire does not compare to first album.


    Won't bore anyone with my Rage story, .
    Hey! what are you trying to say here?
    You'd rather bore us with your Jack Black/Tool analogy? :P :D

    I'd take a mediocre new Rage album anyday....as long as they toured in support of it.
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    I was just saying we don't need anybody's minds blown here!!!

    I guess I would have to concur with the notion that a piece of shit album followed by a tour would be awesome. I never thought that one through! I feel like a really shitty rocker now.
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  • drewdawgqdrewdawgq Posts: 168
    If I could name any band to see live, it would be Rage, hands down. Never had the chance :(
    The debut is amazing….probably their best effort start to finish…but I also think it sounds the most dated of their albums.
    Surprised none of the BOLA fans have mentioned Ashes in the Fall, that’s prob my fav track on that album.

    I saw them in Denver for the BOLA tour, I think it was 98. It took me ten years to see a better show by any band. That band was PJ at MSG II 2008.
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