'West Memphis Three' Could Go Free While Step-Father Hangs B

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  • left the porch
    left the porch Posts: 504
    clockistotime wrote:
    left the porch wrote:
    From the American Chronicle February 17, 2010

    i've searched and searched their website, but can't find this article on their website. can you provide a direct link please? thanks.

    http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/35197

    The original article was written in 2007, but has recently been updated to include new information.
  • left the porch
    left the porch Posts: 504
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    clockistotime wrote:
    left the porch wrote:
    From the American Chronicle February 17, 2010

    i've searched and searched their website, but can't find this article on their website. can you provide a direct link please? thanks.
    You cant find it....

    Because I am pretty sure the article is 1-3 years old..........


    Again, all 3 convicted murderers have been denied a retrial........

    Again, all 3 FALSELY CONVICTED murderers have been denied a retrial............from a corrupt backwoods redneck hillbilly judge. There that's much better.
  • lowbudgetlush
    lowbudgetlush Posts: 612
    One day the truth will come out regarding this case. What will you say if Damien Echols (or one of the other 2) admits to the murders? You are so convinced that they are not guilty. The only information i have read on this case has a pro WM3 slant. From the paradise lost movies to the WM3 site. I for one after watching the Paradise Lost movies was convinced that the Byers step dad was the killer. However that doesnt seem to be the case. (He does seem to be a weirdo though)

    The same also goes for those that condemn these 3.

    I remember at the Lollapalooza with Audioslave & Queens of the Stone Age I met Tom Morello. I asked him to sign my poster and write "Free the West Memphis 3". He politely declined and said "The jury is still out on that one". So I thought to myself that if Tom Morello who is a brilliant man is unsure I shouldn't be so certain. Now this was 7-8 years ago so his opinion may have changed.

    Again, all 3 FALSELY CONVICTED murderers have been denied a retrial............from a corrupt backwoods redneck hillbilly judge. There that's much better.[/quote]
  • left the porch
    left the porch Posts: 504
    lowbudgetlush wrote:
    One day the truth will come out regarding this case. What will you say if Damien Echols (or one of the other 2) admits to the murders? You are so convinced that they are not guilty. The only information i have read on this case has a pro WM3 slant. From the paradise lost movies to the WM3 site. I for one after watching the Paradise Lost movies was convinced that the Byers step dad was the killer. However that doesnt seem to be the case. (He does seem to be a weirdo though)

    The same also goes for those that condemn these 3.

    I remember at the Lollapalooza with Audioslave & Queens of the Stone Age I met Tom Morello. I asked him to sign my poster and write "Free the West Memphis 3". He politely declined and said "The jury is still out on that one". So I thought to myself that if Tom Morello who is a brilliant man is unsure I shouldn't be so certain. Now this was 7-8 years ago so his opinion may have changed.

    Again, all 3 FALSELY CONVICTED murderers have been denied a retrial............from a corrupt backwoods redneck hillbilly judge. There that's much better.
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    IF they ever admit to it and they are the true killers, I will say I was wrong. But I don't take these things lightly or throw my support blindly behind the WM3 because PJ and Jack Black and the Dixie Chicks do, I do it because I have heard both sides of the story and I BELIEVE they are innocent. If I am wrong, it wouldn't be the first time or last. And I will admit it.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,946
    left the porch wrote:
    lowbudgetlush wrote:
    One day the truth will come out regarding this case. What will you say if Damien Echols (or one of the other 2) admits to the murders? You are so convinced that they are not guilty. The only information i have read on this case has a pro WM3 slant. From the paradise lost movies to the WM3 site. I for one after watching the Paradise Lost movies was convinced that the Byers step dad was the killer. However that doesnt seem to be the case. (He does seem to be a weirdo though)

    The same also goes for those that condemn these 3.

    I remember at the Lollapalooza with Audioslave & Queens of the Stone Age I met Tom Morello. I asked him to sign my poster and write "Free the West Memphis 3". He politely declined and said "The jury is still out on that one". So I thought to myself that if Tom Morello who is a brilliant man is unsure I shouldn't be so certain. Now this was 7-8 years ago so his opinion may have changed.

    Again, all 3 FALSELY CONVICTED murderers have been denied a retrial............from a corrupt backwoods redneck hillbilly judge. There that's much better.

    IF they ever admit to it and they are the true killers, I will say I was wrong. But I don't take these things lightly or throw my support blindly behind the WM3 because PJ and Jack Black and the Dixie Chicks do, I do it because I have heard both sides of the story and I BELIEVE they are innocent. If I am wrong, it wouldn't be the first time or last. And I will admit it.[/quote]I have done some research myself....

    I have read Damien Echols hospital records, I have read all about his stay in a mental hospital, I have read all about his threatening to kill and eat his father, I have read all about him threatening to kill a police officer.

    One thing is for certain....

    Damien Echols is a piece of garbage......
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • chris32482
    chris32482 Posts: 213
    left the porch wrote:
    lowbudgetlush wrote:
    One day the truth will come out regarding this case. What will you say if Damien Echols (or one of the other 2) admits to the murders? You are so convinced that they are not guilty. The only information i have read on this case has a pro WM3 slant. From the paradise lost movies to the WM3 site. I for one after watching the Paradise Lost movies was convinced that the Byers step dad was the killer. However that doesnt seem to be the case. (He does seem to be a weirdo though)

    The same also goes for those that condemn these 3.

    I remember at the Lollapalooza with Audioslave & Queens of the Stone Age I met Tom Morello. I asked him to sign my poster and write "Free the West Memphis 3". He politely declined and said "The jury is still out on that one". So I thought to myself that if Tom Morello who is a brilliant man is unsure I shouldn't be so certain. Now this was 7-8 years ago so his opinion may have changed.

    Again, all 3 FALSELY CONVICTED murderers have been denied a retrial............from a corrupt backwoods redneck hillbilly judge. There that's much better.



    I'll admit that the only reason I know anything about this case is because I saw Ed wearing his "Free the WM3" shirt. However, as left the porch said, I didn't throw my support behind them based on that. But I have studied this case a LOT. Actually, I would say that for a couple of months last year, I OBSESSESED over it. I watched the movies, read Mara Leveritt's book "Devil's Knot", studied all the documents that are available online, court transcripts, police records of interviews and polygraph tests. You can even listen to Jessie's alleged "confession", at least the part that the police decided to record. I did all this objectively, as I really, honestly wanted to know the truth. I wasn't just looking for reasons to justify supporting the West Memphis Three. And after all my research, i have to say that I am convinced of their innocence.

    Not only is there no evidence to support their conviction, but there are a tons of things that either point to other people, other events that are not linked to the WM3 at all, and also evidence of police incompetence or deliberate obfuscation. What about Mr. Bojangles? A mysterious african american man with blood all over him came stumbling into the Bojangles restaraunt, 100 yards from where the boys were murdered, on the same night. The police were called, they took blood samples, but then the detective admitted on the witness stand that those samples were "lost." Really? Possibly the best evidence you had for the whole case and you lost it?

    It has also been well documented that since the trial, a large number of people at the West Memphis police dept, including the ones that worked on this case, have been busted for corruption charges relating to drugs. There's just too much that doesn't add up.
  • left the porch
    left the porch Posts: 504
    edited February 2010
    I have read Damien Echols hospital records, I have read all about his stay in a mental hospital, I have read all about his threatening to kill and eat his father, I have read all about him threatening to kill a police officer.

    One thing is for certain....

    Damien Echols is a piece of garbage......

    Wow. Pretty harsh Speedy. You have read all these things about Damien, all of his dirty laundry, BECAUSE of the position he is in. His life has been a very troubled one indeed but that dosen't make him a "piece of garbage." Like I said the only reason you know all of these things about him is because he was falsely accused. I'm sure that the same reasons you don't like him are also the reason the police had such an easy time locking him and his friends up and throwing away the key. It's called prejudice, and you're guilty of it too. Do you know his father? Do you know what their relationship was like? Do you think that anyone who has to stay in a mental hospital should be ridiculed for it? Do you know the cop who he wanted to kill? He was a kid when this all happened, do you not think people can change? Have you never said something you regret? I wonder if your life is so pure and clean and that you have the right to judge anybody without having walked in their shoes? Do you think so Mr. High and Mighty? You are entitled to your opinion, I just wonder if you would welcome the same if you were in his shoes and your whole life was disclosed for the world to see?

    One thing is for certain.......none of what you mentioned links him to the murders of those boys. I guess I should've clarified that was what I meant by falsely accused of murder, not of having some character flaws. My apologies.
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
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    I wouldnt spit on Damien Echols if he was on fire............
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • left the porch
    left the porch Posts: 504
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    I wouldnt spit on Damien Echols if he was on fire............

    You sir, have made your point. You may want to get some help for those anger issues. You wouldn't want anyone judging you based on your harsh comments about somebody you don't like.
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    left the porch wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    I wouldnt spit on Damien Echols if he was on fire............

    You sir, have made your point. You may want to get some help for those anger issues. You wouldn't want anyone judging you based on your harsh comments about somebody you don't like.

    That's a little bit rich coming from your good self isn't it?!
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,073
    GREAT news! Free the WM3!

    Hearing Eddie talk about meeting with Damien at the Ryman shows was one of my favorite parts.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • left the porch
    left the porch Posts: 504
    facepollution wrote:
    left the porch wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    I wouldnt spit on Damien Echols if he was on fire............

    You sir, have made your point. You may want to get some help for those anger issues. You wouldn't want anyone judging you based on your harsh comments about somebody you don't like.

    That's a little bit rich coming from your good self isn't it?!

    I'm not the one calling people garbage am I?! Or saying I would let someone die instead of help them am I?! That was low.
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    left the porch wrote:
    I'm not the one calling people garbage am I?! Or saying I would let someone die instead of help them am I?! That was low.

    I was more talking about your performance in a certain other thread.
  • left the porch
    left the porch Posts: 504
    facepollution wrote:
    left the porch wrote:
    I'm not the one calling people garbage am I?! Or saying I would let someone die instead of help them am I?! That was low.

    I was more talking about your performance in a certain other thread.

    Oh hi facepollution, yes I actually am taking steps to deal with my anger, especially towards people I don't know personally. But as I have told you MANY times, I don't let my anger towards Courtney affect my opinion, on whether or not she was involved in his death. I told you that after all the reading and research I have done I have come to the conclusion that it wasn't suicide and I believe she had something to do with it. Personal feelings aside. And as much as I do hate Courtney, for all the things she's done, I would never wish death on her. Just that she pay for her crimes.
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    left the porch wrote:
    Oh hi facepollution, yes I actually am taking steps to deal with my anger, especially towards people I don't know personally. But as I have told you MANY times, I don't let my anger towards Courtney affect my opinion, on whether or not she was involved in his death. I told you that after all the reading and research I have done I have come to the conclusion that it wasn't suicide and I believe she had something to do with it. Personal feelings aside. And as much as I do hate Courtney, for all the things she's done, I would never wish death on her. Just that she pay for her crimes.

    All of that aside, because I know deep down you realise that your argument has more holes than a pin cushion....... I thought it was a tad hypocritical to be handing out advice on anger and how people perceive things you write online, given your colourful appraisals of Courtney Love. Practice what you preach.
  • left the porch
    left the porch Posts: 504
    facepollution wrote:
    left the porch wrote:
    Oh hi facepollution, yes I actually am taking steps to deal with my anger, especially towards people I don't know personally. But as I have told you MANY times, I don't let my anger towards Courtney affect my opinion, on whether or not she was involved in his death. I told you that after all the reading and research I have done I have come to the conclusion that it wasn't suicide and I believe she had something to do with it. Personal feelings aside. And as much as I do hate Courtney, for all the things she's done, I would never wish death on her. Just that she pay for her crimes.

    All of that aside, because I know deep down you realise that your argument has more holes than a pin cushion....... I thought it was a tad hypocritical to be handing out advice on anger and how people perceive things you write online, given your colourful appraisals of Courtney Love. Practice what you preach.

    No, not all of that aside. I know deep down inside you realize you are completely full of shit and that your false portrayal of some righteous zen like master who never lets emotion into the equation is as much of a farce as the tripe you write online. I don't care what you think or say or feel about anything. Take your suggestions and stick them where the sun don't shine. Which is exactly what Speedy will tell me to do if he so chooses. Nobody asked for you to jump in and spout off about me, we're talking about the WM3 which aside from you, nobody would associate the two topics in the same forum. They have NOTHING to do with eachother, despite what you argue. One is famous because of the crime, and one was a crime involving famous people. Maybe people's general opinions are according to you based solely on emotion, but the crimes themselves and the people involved have nothing to do with one another. You can't honestly compare Courtney Love and Damien Echols to one another can you? Maybe I said some harsh shit about Courtney and that was wrong to offend her fans and supporters. And maybe it was hypocritcal of me to comment on someone else's angry opinion of somebody they clearly don't like. But I'm surpised that you haven't pointed that out to him seeing how you fancy yourself as a bit of a thread cop, so quick to offer free advice, but it's probably because you have a personal beef with me, because we don't agree on Kurt Cobain's death. Who's letting emotion into the equation now? Why didn't you write Speedy and tell him to not let his emotions get the best of him? Pratice what YOU preach! So take your accusations of hypocrisy and turn them around and point them right back at your self because in this case, it truly does take one to know one.
  • left the porch
    left the porch Posts: 504
    facepollution wrote:
    left the porch wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    I wouldnt spit on Damien Echols if he was on fire............

    You sir, have made your point. You may want to get some help for those anger issues. You wouldn't want anyone judging you based on your harsh comments about somebody you don't like.

    That's a little bit rich coming from your good self isn't it?!

    Oh and by the way if you notice I wrote that he wouldn't want anyone judging you based on your harsh comments about somebody you don't like.

    If you weren't so pompous you would've realized that was directed at you. :D
  • facepollution
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    left the porch wrote:
    No, not all of that aside. I know deep down inside you realize you are completely full of shit and that your false portrayal of some righteous zen like master who never lets emotion into the equation is as much of a farce as the tripe you write online.

    I'm not full of shit or writing tripe, I'm playing devil's advocate and asking you to justify your reasoning with something more than a hunch about someone you have never met and from reading a few websites, which you can't. I find it hard to believe how any level headed person would make such a hard and fast decision based on such limited information.
    left the porch wrote:
    They have NOTHING to do with eachother, despite what you argue. You can't honestly compare Courtney Love and Damien Echols to one another can you?

    Sure they're comparable. In both instances hearsay and circumstantial evidence have been used by some people to reach a guilty beyond reasonable doubt verdict. What lured me into this thread was the irony that you started it, given the ease with which you will accept unsubstantiated information as fact.
    left the porch wrote:
    you have a personal beef with me, because we don't agree on Kurt Cobain's death. Who's letting emotion into the equation now? Why didn't you write Speedy and tell him to not let his emotions get the best of him? Pratice what YOU preach!

    I have no beef with you whatsoever. You will notice through all of our exchanges all the hostility and anger has come from your part. Sure I've grilled you on the reasoning behind your beliefs, and clearly you've taken this very personally, and I'm sorry if I've upset you. But if I'm honest, I'm somewhat disappointed that you won't actually debate the issue. I have no strong feelings towards Courtney Love, if she was guilty then fair enough. But I still stand by the old saying innocent until proven guilty.
    left the porch wrote:
    Why didn't you write Speedy and tell him to not let his emotions get the best of him? Pratice what YOU preach!

    Apologies, I was distracted by the irony of an angry person giving out advice on anger. ;)
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    left the porch wrote:
    If you weren't so pompous you would've realized that was directed at you. :D

    Yeah I could see it was on your mind when you wrote it. I'm glad you've taken something from our discussions.
  • left the porch
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    Word.

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