Gaza facts. Did you know?

TriumphantAngel

On December 27th 2008, Isrsael launched an asault on the Gaza Strip. The attack caused the deadliest one day death toll in 60 years of conflict between Israel and the Palestinians.

Over 3 weeks, 1417 Palestinians were killed. 13 Israelis were killed.

Israel said it launched it's attack to stop rocket attacks from Gaza.

Since the rockets began about 9 years ago, about 30 Israelis have been killed. In 3 weeks, 1417 Palestinians were killed.

9 years - 30 Israelies
3 weeks - 1417 Palestinians

Some people have called the Israeli assualt on Gaza a "war" How is this a war?

Israel
Attack Helicopters 78
F-16's 299
Tanks 3,650

Overall Deaths 13

Palestinians
Attack Helicopters 0
F-16's 0
Tanks 0

Overall deaths 1,417

The Palestinians arsenal consisted of home made rockets.

Overall Deaths 13

Death from home made rockets 4


According to B'Tselem (an Israeli Human Rights Organization)

76% of the Palestinians killed were not combatants

24% were children.

during the assualt, Israel barred journalists from entering Gaza. they reported from a hill which overlooks Gaza,

they called it the 'hill of shame''

318 children were killed by Israeli troops during the assault.

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/excellent-video/

stop taking land that is not yours. stop expanding the illegal settlements. go back to your accepted borders. stop illegally occupying the ordinary Palestinian people. stop caging them in like animals. stop with the checkpoints. stop not allowing them to leave. stop breaking International Law and treating them so inhumanely and cruelly. stop taking their water. stop the blockades. stop denying them medical treatment. stop pretending that you have done nothing wrong. stop denying access to anyone outside of the open air prison you have created, who can and want to help the people of Gaza. stop using white phospherous. stop stealing and harvesting their organs. freaks.

just fuck off and leave them alone. 76% of those people killed were NOT combatants. 318 were children.

what you are doing is a disgrace. what you did in Gaza was disgraceful, you went after everybody and you continue to do so.

TriumphantAngel

posting the clip seperately. in case it get's lost amongst my post. if nothing else, could you please take the time to watch this.

thank you.

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/excellent-video/

g under p

I'm sure the Israeli side of this slaughter will find some reason why their actions was excusable. Some day this will all come back to haunt them, that day can't come soon enough.

Peace

polaris_x

the question is not did you know ... rather ... why don't we know ...

we launched a full scale war on iraq based on a few tanks in kuwait ... and yet this cruelty is happening on a daily basis without international intervention ...

Pepe Silvia

polaris_x wrote:

the question is not did you know ... rather ... why don't we know ...

we launched a full scale war on iraq based on a few tanks in kuwait ... and yet this cruelty is happening on a daily basis without international intervention ...

it's hard for me to believe not only that it's the 21st century and something like this can happen but it happens with the support of my government and my tax money. i wish a reporter would call Obama or Clinton out on this or at least ask them why they reject the Goldstone report for being "1 sided" when it clearly says BOTH sides committed war crimes and BOTH sides should be tried for them?

polaris_x

Pepe Silvia wrote:

it's hard for me to believe not only that it's the 21st century and something like this can happen but it happens with the support of my government and my tax money. i wish a reporter would call Obama or Clinton out on this or at least ask them why they reject the Goldstone report for being "1 sided" when it clearly says BOTH sides committed war crimes and BOTH sides should be tried for them?

israel has had unconditional support for a VERY long time now - it doesn't matter who is in office ... here in Canada - we have a right wing gov't and they are basically 100% behind the israelis ... in fact, our pm has now stacked all our independent boards with his lackeys that funding for palestinian aid is being choked off ... before we used to be more neutral on the subject but not anymore ...

Pepe Silvia

polaris_x wrote:

Pepe Silvia wrote:

it's hard for me to believe not only that it's the 21st century and something like this can happen but it happens with the support of my government and my tax money. i wish a reporter would call Obama or Clinton out on this or at least ask them why they reject the Goldstone report for being "1 sided" when it clearly says BOTH sides committed war crimes and BOTH sides should be tried for them?

israel has had unconditional support for a VERY long time now - it doesn't matter who is in office ... here in Canada - we have a right wing gov't and they are basically 100% behind the israelis ... in fact, our pm has now stacked all our independent boards with his lackeys that funding for palestinian aid is being choked off ... before we used to be more neutral on the subject but not anymore ...

sadly this is all too true. it is actually now illegal for us to sell weapons to Israel and yet we continue to do it anyway....actually it has been for several years now

badbrains

We live in a fucked up world. We have fucked up leaders EVERYWHERE. Every Arab leader, every white leader, every Christian, Muslim, Jewish leaders are all fucked up. I dnt care which one, they're all twisted and WE pay the price. Pepe u said it, we live in the 21st century and this shit is happening. From darfur to Palestine, amazing how us humans have evolved into this. I'm beginning to think god really has given up on us and has moved on to his next "project." Maybe his next creation will get it right.

TriumphantAngel

yes, it is hard to believe that it's the 21st century and something like this can happen, and yes it is happening with the support of your government and tax money.

It’s time to stop listening to our leaders. they are lying to us. they only care about what's important to them and playing the game. at the end of the day they don't give a shit about us. somewhere along the way they lost sight of what they should be doing, and that's listening to the people. please, also, stop listening to the media that is being controlled so they can manipulate you,

listen to your heart. It’s time to care about others, to stop ignoring cries of those who need us, and start helping. all lives are valuable and precious, and everyone is equal. we should stand up to a world that is based on unfairness, we should stand up for those who need us, and we should care for others no matter where they are from or what they believe in.

when you think about Gaza, don’t think about Muslims or Jews, think about human lives. don’t consider standing up for Gaza the duty of Muslims, it’s everyone’s duty. civilians are being killed every day in Gaza and none of our leaders or governments care and do anything about it. they are assisting in the killing by funding it and turning a blind eye and lying about what is really happening.

when you watch a murderer murder and don’t stop her/him, then you are just as guilty as the murderer. when you sit home and do nothing about what’s happening in Gaza, you are telling our leaders that you agree with the murder of innocent people, you are showing that as long as you are ok nothing else matters, you are saying that the rich, greedy, and selfish can do whatever they want.

the people of Gaza are real. they are hurting every single second of every single day. innocent people that are just like you. someone has to be their voice. they can't speak to us. they sure as shit can't communicate with the outside world to let them know what is really happening to them.

please, take some time to educate yourselves about what is really happening over there.

thanks for listening.

TriumphantAngel

bump.

because i care. and maybe someone lurking might read this and find out something they didn't already know.

Commy

its apartheid, a siege, and innocent people are paying the price.


i notice israeli supporters are not surprisingly silent when presented with reality.

TriumphantAngel

Commy wrote:

its apartheid, a siege, and innocent people are paying the price.


i notice israeli supporters are not surprisingly silent when presented with reality.

but Yosi can guarantee that he knows more about Israel and Judaism than anyone else on this board.

he'll be along shortly.

:roll:

Pepe Silvia

TriumphantAngel wrote:

Commy wrote:

its apartheid, a siege, and innocent people are paying the price.


i notice israeli supporters are not surprisingly silent when presented with reality.

but Yosi can guarantee that he knows more about Israel and Judaism than anyone else on this board.

he'll be along shortly.

:roll:

it's only apartheid if you go by the UN and International Criminal Court's definitions, not Yosi's selective usage, just as killing hundreds of innocent Palestinians isn't a massacre but killing 11 Israeli athletes at the olympics is.....

talk about convenience

yosi

I love being baited. Do you guys ever get tired of this. Seriously, it must get to be a little much preaching so vigorously to the choir. Or maybe you guys just need a little release. This is all very masturbatory after all.

TriumphantAngel

yosi wrote:

I love being baited. Do you guys ever get tired of this. Seriously, it must get to be a little much preaching so vigorously to the choir. Or maybe you guys just need a little release. This is all very masturbatory after all.

i wasn't baiting you.

if you have something to contribute to the thread then go ahead. you're the one telling us how you are the expert.

yosi

Have I not been contributing? These threads are really kind of sad. In reality many of us agree on the core points, but the tone here, driven by a vocal few, is such that discussion and respectful disagreement become virtually impossible. It just seems like these threads are full of angry people with perfectly calcified opinions who take it as a personal insult whenever someone disagrees with them.

TriumphantAngel

A blinding flash of white light
Lit up the sky over Gaza tonight
People running for cover
Not knowing whether they're dead or alive

They came with their tanks and their planes
With ravaging fiery flames
And nothing remains
Just a voice rising up in the smoky haze

We will not go down
In the night, without a fight
You can burn up our mosques and our homes and our schools
But our spirit will never die
We will not go down
In Gaza tonight

Women and children alike
Murdered and massacred night after night
While the so-called leaders of countries afar
Debated on who's wrong or right

But their powerless words were in vain
And the bombs fell down like acid rain
But through the tears and the blood and the pain
You can still hear that voice through the smoky haze

We will not go down
In the night, without a fight
You can burn up our mosques and our homes and our schools
But our spirit will never die
We will not go down
In Gaza tonight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbr8LBR5 ... re=related

TriumphantAngel

according to the health ministry, more than seventy percent of medicines donated for Gaza have been dumped because they were past their expiry date. they were worth many millions of dollars. and they were worth many lives.

Surplus of coffins, shortage of medicines in Gaza


Goods accumulate at the Israeli-controlled border crossing with Gaza. (Mohammed Omer/IPS)

GAZA CITY, occupied Gaza Strip (IPS) - Samir Tahseen al-Nadeem died after waiting 35 days for an exit permit for treatment for his heart condition. He was 26. The medicines he needed could not get in. But the coffins do.

The health ministry now lists 375 deaths due to shortage of life-saving medicines. The medicines sit just outside the borders of the territory until most pass their expiry dates. But there are no expiry dates on about 10,000 coffins that have been donated for Gaza. The coffins do make it to those who eventually need them.

By the end of last month more than seventy percent of medicines donated for Gaza had been dumped because they were past their expiry date, the health ministry says. They were worth many millions of dollars. And they were worth many lives.

"Much of the donated medicines came from Arab states," Dr. Mounir al-Boursh, director of the pharmaceutical department at the health ministry, tells IPS. This added up to 10,300 tons of medicines worth 25 million dollars, he said.

Only about thirty percent of this could be used, he said; the rest either expired, or was inaccessible because of restricted distribution by the Israelis, who control what gets into Gaza.

It's not easy to dump medicines safely, either. Much of unused supply mixes with domestic waste, creating health hazards far from bringing relief. The World Health Organization has had to "raise concern about the unsafe disposal of expired medication and other medical disposable material," WHO spokesperson told IPS.

But the Gaza ministry has received 10,000 coffins, about 1,000 of them for children, Dr. Boursh said. Such help, he said, "does not meet with the needs of the Gaza Strip."

What Gaza needs is 110 types of medicines and 123 types of medical equipment that the ministry has listed. Gaza is expected to run out of more medicines over the next few months. The announced ease in the blockade of Gaza has not currently brought more supplies.

The medicines now under threat are for childcare, in the maternity departments, and for conditions such as cancer, epilepsy, hemophilia and thalassemia.

"Death has become routine," says a young woman from Jabaliya in the north of Gaza Strip as she waits in the corridor at the al-Nasser Children's Hospital in Gaza City. Next to her, the parents of two-year-old Israa Tabsh are struggling to save the child, born with a heart defect.

"We have been waiting for weeks for permission to leave Gaza for the cardiac surgery she needs," says the child's father, Fayez al-Tabsh. The treatment is available at the al-Maqased hospital in East Jerusalem, but Tabsh can't get there.

The family, like others, first needs an exit permit, and then a financial guarantees statement that all expenses would be met by the health ministry in the occupied West Bank, which is under the control of the Fatah-led administration, unlike the Hamas government in Gaza.

That guarantee is near impossible for most patients. "You need connections," says a 53-year-old mother waiting for a guarantee for her son. "We are caught between corrupt officials and death."

Patients in Gaza depend on the West Bank government both for permits and for many needed medicines. In 2010 Gaza received only 22 percent of the medicines it needed from the Palestinian Authority based in Ramallah in the West Bank, Boursh said. Supplies are declining. "In 2008 we had received fifty percent, and in 2009, 49 percent."

The medicines that come in, and in time, are not easy to preserve. At the old al-Ghifari medical storage in Gaza City, the facility leaks fluids. "It's the rats," says a caretaker. "They get to the fluid bags, causing the leakages. The rats get the medicines, the patients the coffins."

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article11569.shtml

Commy

TriumphantAngel wrote:

A blinding flash of white light
Lit up the sky over Gaza tonight
People running for cover
Not knowing whether they're dead or alive

They came with their tanks and their planes
With ravaging fiery flames
And nothing remains
Just a voice rising up in the smoky haze

We will not go down
In the night, without a fight
You can burn up our mosques and our homes and our schools
But our spirit will never die
We will not go down
In Gaza tonight

Women and children alike
Murdered and massacred night after night
While the so-called leaders of countries afar
Debated on who's wrong or right

But their powerless words were in vain
And the bombs fell down like acid rain
But through the tears and the blood and the pain
You can still hear that voice through the smoky haze

We will not go down
In the night, without a fight
You can burn up our mosques and our homes and our schools
But our spirit will never die
We will not go down
In Gaza tonight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbr8LBR5 ... re=related

no song gets to me like this one does.





very powerful song.




and great pic.


fuck that piece of shit with a machine gun.

TriumphantAngel

two years on.

pretty much every article i read talks about the two year anniversary of the gaza war. a war is when two armies fight each other. this wasn't a war, it was a massacare.

two years later, 1.5 million people in Gaza are still imprisoned. 800,000 of them are children.

Best of Times

TriumphantAngel wrote:

according to the health ministry, more than seventy percent of medicines donated for Gaza have been dumped because they were past their expiry date. they were worth many millions of dollars. and they were worth many lives.

Surplus of coffins, shortage of medicines in Gaza


Goods accumulate at the Israeli-controlled border crossing with Gaza. (Mohammed Omer/IPS)

GAZA CITY, occupied Gaza Strip (IPS) - Samir Tahseen al-Nadeem died after waiting 35 days for an exit permit for treatment for his heart condition. He was 26. The medicines he needed could not get in. But the coffins do.

The health ministry now lists 375 deaths due to shortage of life-saving medicines. The medicines sit just outside the borders of the territory until most pass their expiry dates. But there are no expiry dates on about 10,000 coffins that have been donated for Gaza. The coffins do make it to those who eventually need them.

By the end of last month more than seventy percent of medicines donated for Gaza had been dumped because they were past their expiry date, the health ministry says. They were worth many millions of dollars. And they were worth many lives.

"Much of the donated medicines came from Arab states," Dr. Mounir al-Boursh, director of the pharmaceutical department at the health ministry, tells IPS. This added up to 10,300 tons of medicines worth 25 million dollars, he said.

Only about thirty percent of this could be used, he said; the rest either expired, or was inaccessible because of restricted distribution by the Israelis, who control what gets into Gaza.

It's not easy to dump medicines safely, either. Much of unused supply mixes with domestic waste, creating health hazards far from bringing relief. The World Health Organization has had to "raise concern about the unsafe disposal of expired medication and other medical disposable material," WHO spokesperson told IPS.

But the Gaza ministry has received 10,000 coffins, about 1,000 of them for children, Dr. Boursh said. Such help, he said, "does not meet with the needs of the Gaza Strip."

What Gaza needs is 110 types of medicines and 123 types of medical equipment that the ministry has listed. Gaza is expected to run out of more medicines over the next few months. The announced ease in the blockade of Gaza has not currently brought more supplies.

The medicines now under threat are for childcare, in the maternity departments, and for conditions such as cancer, epilepsy, hemophilia and thalassemia.

"Death has become routine," says a young woman from Jabaliya in the north of Gaza Strip as she waits in the corridor at the al-Nasser Children's Hospital in Gaza City. Next to her, the parents of two-year-old Israa Tabsh are struggling to save the child, born with a heart defect.

"We have been waiting for weeks for permission to leave Gaza for the cardiac surgery she needs," says the child's father, Fayez al-Tabsh. The treatment is available at the al-Maqased hospital in East Jerusalem, but Tabsh can't get there.

The family, like others, first needs an exit permit, and then a financial guarantees statement that all expenses would be met by the health ministry in the occupied West Bank, which is under the control of the Fatah-led administration, unlike the Hamas government in Gaza.

That guarantee is near impossible for most patients. "You need connections," says a 53-year-old mother waiting for a guarantee for her son. "We are caught between corrupt officials and death."

Patients in Gaza depend on the West Bank government both for permits and for many needed medicines. In 2010 Gaza received only 22 percent of the medicines it needed from the Palestinian Authority based in Ramallah in the West Bank, Boursh said. Supplies are declining. "In 2008 we had received fifty percent, and in 2009, 49 percent."

The medicines that come in, and in time, are not easy to preserve. At the old al-Ghifari medical storage in Gaza City, the facility leaks fluids. "It's the rats," says a caretaker. "They get to the fluid bags, causing the leakages. The rats get the medicines, the patients the coffins."

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article11569.shtml

Very Interesting. i guess when your only export is hatred and death, coffins are cheap;
medicine? not so much.
go Israel.