Tebow Commercial Airs

yokeyoke Posts: 1,440
edited February 2010 in A Moving Train
So what was the problem with the commercial??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BIOTItUwvk&feature=player_embedded
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  • One of the problems is that their story reeks of a focus group tested myth. A doctor in the Philippines, where abortion is illegal, recommended to a Christian missionary to have an abortion? Probably not.

    The ad also does not reconcile the fact that many more women who find themselves with the condition that Pam was in do not have a happy story to tell. The ad does not address the motherless families that placental abruption leaves behind.

    All I am saying is that the spreading of this story could very easily lead to false hope in families that leads them to make a decision with the odds severely stacked against them.

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  • markin ballmarkin ball Posts: 1,075
    Wow was this whole thing much ado about nothing. I'm pro-choice (not pro-abortion) and think this commericial was pretty harmless.
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  • check out all the planed parenthood videos on you tube.
    It's pretty obvious who the intolerant ones are.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    prfctlefts wrote:
    check out all the planed parenthood videos on you tube.
    It's pretty obvious who the intolerant ones are.
    :roll:
    Care to point us in the direction of these "intolerant" Planned Parenthood videos?
  • scb wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    check out all the planed parenthood videos on you tube.
    It's pretty obvious who the intolerant ones are.
    :roll:
    Care to point us in the direction of these "intolerant" Planned Parenthood videos?

    That's typical liberal response :roll: You're the ones who say that your the tolerant ones. Yeah sure.... Until you disagree..
    if you click on the you tube link with the Tebow commercial and look at all the videos to the right that you can view. Oh yeah what about the lady that was a director for planned parenthood in Texas but now is pro life. I bet alot of people would change their mind if they actually saw one take place.

    http://www.zimbio.com/Abby+Johnson/arti ... ood+Clinic
  • Wow was this whole thing much ado about nothing. I'm pro-choice (not pro-abortion) and think this commericial was pretty harmless.

    Yeah... reminds me of the Obama school thing. A whole lot of bitching and moaning before it, then the thing is harmless.
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  • Non-issue.... well... except for the fact that they make it so non-controversial and use rhetoric like "pro-family" (who the hell would be against that?) but what they mean is "overturn Roe v Wade." Hopefully people can see through the rhetoric.

    Abortion is sickening to me, now that I have a 7-month old boy.

    However, I'll always be pro-choice.

    No, that is not contradictory.
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    prfctlefts wrote:
    scb wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    check out all the planed parenthood videos on you tube.
    It's pretty obvious who the intolerant ones are.
    :roll:
    Care to point us in the direction of these "intolerant" Planned Parenthood videos?

    That's typical liberal response :roll: You're the ones who say that your the tolerant ones. Yeah sure.... Until you disagree..
    if you click on the you tube link with the Tebow commercial and look at all the videos to the right that you can view. Oh yeah what about the lady that was a director for planned parenthood in Texas but now is pro life. I bet alot of people would change their mind if they actually saw one take place.

    http://www.zimbio.com/Abby+Johnson/arti ... ood+Clinic

    Typical liberal response to ask for examples? :roll: I'll have to check out the videos later when I'm not at work.

    Regarding people changing their minds, I can only speak for myself, but I can tell you that I have seen many abortions and have not changed my mind. My experience has actually made me realize that many abortions aren't what the "pro-life" folks make them out to be. In fact, I would bet that a lot of people who are anti-choice would change THEIR minds if they 1) actually saw abortions take place, and 2) actually talked with the women who have them.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    Non-issue.... well... except for the fact that they make it so non-controversial and use rhetoric like "pro-family" (who the hell would be against that?) but what they mean is "overturn Roe v Wade." Hopefully people can see through the rhetoric.

    I agree. If there was no message, then what was the point? They could have spent all that money on actually helping families. And, since there was a message (regardless of how ineffective it may or may not have been), it's not a non-issue.
  • I thought it was pretty harmless, and I'm a pro-choice agnostic (so REALLY not the target audience). Most of the damage, message-wise, was done before the Super Bowl with all of the talk about it - which makes it just as effective as the gay dating one (which I did not see online, though I'm also pro-gay marriage).

    The response I really found nutty was the president of the Women's Media Center, who criticized the ad for depicting violence against women. Some people can't take the stick out of their butt long enough to enjoy themselves (and I assume he didn't get to the end of the ad where Tebow's mother dusts herself off and says she's still tougher than him).
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • I didn't really get why Tebow tackled his mom...

    "hey ma thanks for not killing me... I'm gonna pummel you into the ground now."

    Plus he plays offense so he isn't involved in tackling people.

    :?
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  • I didn't really get why Tebow tackled his mom...

    "hey ma thanks for not killing me... I'm gonna pummel you into the ground now."

    Plus he plays offense so he isn't involved in tackling people.

    :?

    Depending on which NFL scout you're talking to, he might have to start if he wants to play in the NFL lol

    (FYI: I'm an LSU fan who actually likes Tebow)
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • cajunkiwi wrote:
    I didn't really get why Tebow tackled his mom...

    "hey ma thanks for not killing me... I'm gonna pummel you into the ground now."

    Plus he plays offense so he isn't involved in tackling people.

    :?

    Depending on which NFL scout you're talking to, he might have to start if he wants to play in the NFL lol

    (FYI: I'm an LSU fan who actually likes Tebow)

    I don't think there is any chance he'll play defense... and LESS chance that he'll play QB :lol:

    I think he'll get a shot as a fullback or tight end and special teams and will be done in less than 3 years.

    We'll have to put up with him on TV as a commentator for years I imagine. He isn't going away anytime soon...
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  • scb wrote:
    Regarding people changing their minds, I can only speak for myself, but I can tell you that I have seen many abortions and have not changed my mind.

    So what's it like seeing a helpless unborn child have their life taken away from them ? Don't they have rights ? How anyone can watch that kind of procedure take place is beyond me. I think you're a very sick person not to think that there is something not right about this.

    If it's a woman's life is at risk is one thing,but a form of birth control is another and you know as well as I do that there are pleanty of women that have abortions because they don't want their life to be burdened by having a baby.


    I wasn't trying to insult you in the first paragraph. Im just sayin I don't see how you can do it and it not bother you.
  • prfctlefts wrote:
    scb wrote:
    Regarding people changing their minds, I can only speak for myself, but I can tell you that I have seen many abortions and have not changed my mind.

    So what's it like seeing a helpless unborn child have their life taken away from them ? Don't they have rights ? How anyone can watch that kind of procedure take place is beyond me. I think you're a very sick person not to think that there is something not right about this.
    If it's a woman's life is at risk is one thing,but a form of birth control is another and you know as well as I do that there are pleanty of women that have abortions because they don't want their life to be burdened by having a baby.


    I wasn't trying to insult you in the first paragraph. Im just sayin I don't see how you can do it and it not bother you.
    :thumbdown:

    i'm speechless. that was completely unnecessary.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    prfctlefts wrote:
    scb wrote:
    Regarding people changing their minds, I can only speak for myself, but I can tell you that I have seen many abortions and have not changed my mind.

    So what's it like seeing a helpless unborn child have their life taken away from them ? Don't they have rights ? How anyone can watch that kind of procedure take place is beyond me. I think you're a very sick person not to think that there is something not right about this.

    If it's a woman's life is at risk is one thing,but a form of birth control is another and you know as well as I do that there are pleanty of women that have abortions because they don't want their life to be burdened by having a baby.


    I wasn't trying to insult you in the first paragraph. Im just sayin I don't see how you can do it and it not bother you.

    Like I said, if you had seen abortions maybe you would understand. Frankly, I think people should have to see abortions and meet the women who have them if they really want to understand the issue.

    The majority of abortions occur at less than 9 weeks gestational age (from last mentrual period or LMP, not the "fetal age" than many anti-abortion groups talk about), when the "helpless unborn child" isn't even a fetus yet. It's not even an embryo until the 5th week.

    Keep in mind that it's the anti-abortion folks who publish probably all (or at least most) of the images people see of (so-called) abortions. These images are biased. They are meant to freak you out, not to accurately portray reality. They are typically of really late term abortions, which are extremely rare and don't represent the vast majority of abortions. They are also usually (always, that I've seen) dated in a misleading way (using "fetal age"). They are sometimes not even of abortions at all. So they publish these pictures on the internet and on the sides of moving billboards and on signs that they hold up outside abortion clinics while they yell to patients, "This is what you're doing to your baby!" And those images are burned into the minds of people who use them to form their ideas about abortion and the "sick" minds of the people who participate in them.

    But back to reality.... in really early abortions (like, as I said, most are) you can't see a baby, a fetus, or frequently even an embryo. It's so absolutely tiny that you can't even find it, despite being trained to look. The docs only even know they got it because they can see the gestational sac, which holds the embryo. And, trust me, they look really hard, with special lighting and everything. This is how SO many women have miscarriages early in their pregnancies and never even know they were pregnant... and of course they see what comes out - but they sure don't see a baby. (Miscarriages, by the way, are technically called abortions, and people see them all the time and don't say they look like the images on the anti-abortion posters.) I wish I could post pictures, but I'd get banned... and probably violate some copyright laws.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    prfctlefts wrote:
    scb wrote:
    Regarding people changing their minds, I can only speak for myself, but I can tell you that I have seen many abortions and have not changed my mind.

    So what's it like seeing a helpless unborn child have their life taken away from them ? Don't they have rights ? How anyone can watch that kind of procedure take place is beyond me. I think you're a very sick person not to think that there is something not right about this.
    If it's a woman's life is at risk is one thing,but a form of birth control is another and you know as well as I do that there are pleanty of women that have abortions because they don't want their life to be burdened by having a baby.


    I wasn't trying to insult you in the first paragraph. Im just sayin I don't see how you can do it and it not bother you.
    :thumbdown:

    i'm speechless. that was completely unnecessary.

    Yeah, but I think he's a very ignorant person to pass so many judgements without any real experience with the issue at hand (and I don't mean that as an insult). ;)
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    prfctlefts wrote:
    I bet alot of people would change their mind if they actually saw one take place.

    I just realized I made an assumption about you, so I'd like to apologize for that and clarify instead of assuming.

    I made the assumption that you have never actually witnessed (including the examination of what is removed) an abortion that represents the majority of abortions in the U.S. (one at 9 weeks LMP or less). But your comment above suggests that perhaps you actually have.

    So I'll just ask: Have you??
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