Rock Music dead?

BamaPJFanBamaPJFan Posts: 410
edited February 2010 in Other Music
Why is it that over the last several years (especially right now) we hear the phrase - "Rock music is dying."?

I'm not a fan at all of rap/hip-hop and the current day pop music. I think it's all crap to be quite honest. I listen to basically all forms of rock music, from Pearl Jam to Metallica, from Queensryche to Van Halen, and from Fleetwood Mac to AIC. (I also like a lot of country music.)

Are the music executives to blame? Radio? Real, authentic rock radio is hard to find these days. Top 40 stations up until the mid-90s played rock music, but all of a sudden they stopped. I don't even watch the Grammys because I know that it's nothing but computer-generated noise with coked up freaks on stage who can't sing if their lives depended on it (I know, Green Day had a spot on the Grammys this time around).

Why aren't young folks embracing rock? Maybe a lot are, but we just don't hear about it? Because of how bad mainstream pop music is in today's climate, that makes me an even bigger fan of rock music.
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  • Rock music will never die, to paraphrase Neil Young...it will always be changing, however. For good or bad.
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  • Rock music will never die, to paraphrase Neil Young...it will always be changing, however. For good or bad.

    I'm fine with it changing; I just can't stand it when people say that it's "dying". There are tons of rock bands out there who have stayed the course and are currently making some of the best music of their careers, but you wouldn't necessarily know it if you had to depend on the mainstream music media to tell you this.
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  • BamaPJFan wrote:
    Rock music will never die, to paraphrase Neil Young...it will always be changing, however. For good or bad.

    I'm fine with it changing; I just can't stand it when people say that it's "dying". There are tons of rock bands out there who have stayed the course and are currently making some of the best music of their careers, but you wouldn't necessarily know it if you had to depend on the mainstream music media to tell you this.
    Agreed 100% Sad but true
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  • merkinballmerkinball Posts: 2,262
    BamaPJFan wrote:
    Why aren't young folks embracing rock? Maybe a lot are, but we just don't hear about it? Because of how bad mainstream pop music is in today's climate, that makes me an even bigger fan of rock music.


    I don't think it's that young folks aren't embracing rock, I think it's more that the media isn't embracing rock.

    The media will go to the short term/headline story, which tends to be in Pop and it's short shelf life. Whatever sells that day. Even bands like the Stones and Led Zeppelin didn't make the headlines in the prime because of their music, it was the story/mystique that surrounded them.
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  • merkinball wrote:
    BamaPJFan wrote:
    Why aren't young folks embracing rock? Maybe a lot are, but we just don't hear about it? Because of how bad mainstream pop music is in today's climate, that makes me an even bigger fan of rock music.


    I don't think it's that young folks aren't embracing rock, I think it's more that the media isn't embracing rock.

    The media will go to the short term/headline story, which tends to be in Pop and it's short shelf life. Whatever sells that day. Even bands like the Stones and Led Zeppelin didn't make the headlines in the prime because of their music, it was the story/mystique that surrounded them.

    Good point. I guess to be quite honest, I'm not wishing for rock music to be over-commercialized (like it was in the mid to late 80s) because music that is overhyped tends to lose a lot of its quality and integrity. I just don't like seeing rock music disrespected, when in my opinion, the most talented musicians are those like rock musicians who play their own instruments and typically write the vast majority of the songs they perform.
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  • merkinballmerkinball Posts: 2,262
    BamaPJFan wrote:

    Good point. I guess to be quite honest, I'm not wishing for rock music to be over-commercialized (like it was in the mid to late 80s) because music that is overhyped tends to lose a lot of its quality and integrity. I just don't like seeing rock music disrespected, when in my opinion, the most talented musicians are those like rock musicians who play their own instruments and typically write the vast majority of the songs they perform.

    Oh yeah, absolutely agree. While I would love for rock bands like PJ, My Morning Jacket, and the Drive-By Truckers to get as much attention as they deserve, I'd rather it be for their art, not their personal lives.
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  • I would say rock music is bigger than ever here in the UK. Back in the early to mid 90's you were a real outsider if you were into rock music where I live. But nowadays the vast majority of teenagers I see are in skinny jeans with emo hair cuts! Granted a lot of them are just in it for the fashion side of it, but then you could probably say that of any musical scene. Plus live music seems to be a lot more popular these days. I remember back in the 90's when tickets for shows or festivals went on sale, you usually had a few weeks before they would sell out. Nowadays most gigs by big bands will sell out within an hour or so tops.
  • there's so much live rock music in my hometown its overwhelming

    fm rock radio is dead. but rock is far from it
  • BALLBOYBALLBOY Australia Posts: 1,032
    I would say rock music is bigger than ever here in the UK. Back in the early to mid 90's you were a real outsider if you were into rock music where I live. But nowadays the vast majority of teenagers I see are in skinny jeans with emo hair cuts! Granted a lot of them are just in it for the fashion side of it, but then you could probably say that of any musical scene. Plus live music seems to be a lot more popular these days. I remember back in the 90's when tickets for shows or festivals went on sale, you usually had a few weeks before they would sell out. Nowadays most gigs by big bands will sell out within an hour or so tops.
    If you say rock is big here in the UK so what radio station plays it. It certainly is not on radio 1 or 2. Good music is being killed here with all the reality shite on TV. NME is not fit enough to wipe you arse with & every English band have strings & sequencers filling in their sound,Coldplay & Muse come to mind.
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  • CobCob Posts: 858
    People have been saying "Rock is Dead" since I was a kid in the 70's and 80'S!!!! :roll:

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  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Cob wrote:
    People have been saying "Rock is Dead" since I was a kid in the 70's and 80'S!!!! :roll:

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    I was waiting for somebody to post this. :mrgreen:
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  • BALLBOY wrote:
    If you say rock is big here in the UK so what radio station plays it. It certainly is not on radio 1 or 2. Good music is being killed here with all the reality shite on TV. NME is not fit enough to wipe you arse with & every English band have strings & sequencers filling in their sound,Coldplay & Muse come to mind.

    I don't really listen to the radio much, if I do it would usually be XFM which only really plays rock music. On the occassions I've listened to radio 1 they have played some rock mucis, albeit the more commercial stuff like Coldplay, Muse, KOL and a load of indie bands, but it's still rock.

    I think your observation about British bands using strings and sequencers is pretty ignorant to be honest. So what? It's called innovation. I don't think anyone would dispute the fact NIN are a rock band, yet many of their songs are exclusively made by electronic means.

    I also disagree that good music is being killed by reality tv shite. Make no mistake, it is largely shite, but before the reality shows, the charts were clogged up with equally shitty pop music. The charts don't really mean a lot anyway. Pearl Jam don't exactly set the charts on fire when they bring out new stuff, yet they have no problems selling out huge venues like the O2. Back in the 90's the charts were one of the main ways of finding out about new bands, but the internet took over that role long ago. Then you have things like Guitar Hero which have introduced new generations to bands they might not have otherwise discovered.
  • Capital records originally didn't want to sign the Beatles because "guitar-based music was dead".
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