Do you feel shit on by the 10C????

U R A Crazy Breed

Now there is no other band in the world that i would join a fan club for...BUT a lot of other people around here do/are, and i always hear how shitty 10c is when it comes to announcing tour dates and ticket sales.

I don't know how other bands do it but i do know it seems like when it comes to PJ we hear it from 20 other places before we get an official word from the 10c!

so........

what is the problem?

is it the band?

is it their management?

is it 10c staff?

why are other bands able to do what Pearl Jam doesn't seem capable of when it comes to tour news/dates?

EDIT: and just for the record...when i say "shit on"...i mean ignored/neglected

cdp1223

The natives are getting restless...

neilybabes86

THEY DON'T KNOW FOR SURE YET !!!!!!!!!!!!!! JEEZ :roll:

helplessdancer

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

Now there is no other band in the world that i would join a fan club for...BUT a lot of other people around here do/are, and i always hear how shitty 10c is when it comes to announcing tour dates and ticket sales.

I don't know how other bands do it but i do know it seems like when it comes to PJ we hear it from 20 other places before we get an official word from the 10c!

so........

what is the problem?

is it the band?

is it their management?

is it 10c staff?

why are other bands able to do what Pearl Jam doesn't seem capable of when it comes to tour news/dates?

tell us how u feel man...

arq

cdp1223 wrote:

The natives are getting restless...

zootown

WAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!! Maybe the 10c should set up a system that they keep score of bonehead threads like this and if you start too many, your 10c number increases! I bet that would keep some people quiet. Do you really think the folks at the 10c have ANYTHING to do with releasing tour dates. Why dont you call Kelly Curtis, or better yet, ring up Eddie and bitch to him---Im sure he would appreciate it! :roll:

theserialthrilla

LOVE the band
LOVE what 10c give
LOVE the forum
LIKE most of you ......

pandora

I'm thankful for the 10C and all they have given me
so my answer would be no I don't feel shit on
I think we knew it would be a little while for tour news and no boots for Philly must mean something wonderful like a dvd maybe.
I choose to be patient and hopeful but then I'm a fanatic weirdo and blindly faithful

dimitrispearljam

LOVE the band
LOVE 10c
LOVE forum
LOVE U R CRAZY BREED

Jeanwah

I think that as a business, 10C could be doing a lot better by actually communicating with their customers...

By us having to resort to finding info from outside sources, it gives them a bad reputation for not being straight forward with any news whatsoever. It's a poor business model.

philthehip

I dont see any problem with the way its run. I love 10c, its members and the fact I get early entry to alot of the gigs and dont have to run the gauntlet of Ticket Bastard everytime tickets come on sale. I love the fact that ticket touting is forbidden on here. I love the fact that many of us are generous with our time and energies towards each other. I love the meet ups. I JUST LOVE IT ALL.

eyedclaar

Yeah, I'm not really into any kind of scat fetish... so no.

ponner1us

Frustrated? Yes...
Shit on? No........

It always seems to go down like this, I guess I'm used to it. These rumors are like roller coasters, up, down, up, down, hopefully we're just on the downside right now, and 10c will do something to bring us up again. :?

U R A Crazy Breed

zootown wrote:

WAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!! Maybe the 10c should set up a system that they keep score of bonehead threads like this and if you start too many, your 10c number increases! I bet that would keep some people quiet. Do you really think the folks at the 10c have ANYTHING to do with releasing tour dates. Why dont you call Kelly Curtis, or better yet, ring up Eddie and bitch to him---Im sure he would appreciate it! :roll:

maybe you have a fucking reading comprehension problem there lumpy...i asked people how they feel and what they think....i'm not crying about shit! so you can get out of my fucking thread unless you want to follow the topic! ok PJ police man?!

and if you think that there aren't things 10c needs to do to tighten their game you're either blind or a complete kiss ass.

and if you think i'd shy away from asking Ed wtf is up...then you're crazy too!

Sawyer

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

Now there is no other band in the world that i would join a fan club for...BUT a lot of other people around here do/are, and i always hear how shitty 10c is when it comes to announcing tour dates and ticket sales.

I don't know how other bands do it but i do know it seems like when it comes to PJ we hear it from 20 other places before we get an official word from the 10c!

so........

what is the problem?

is it the band?

is it their management?

is it 10c staff?

why are other bands able to do what Pearl Jam doesn't seem capable of when it comes to tour news/dates?

didn't you just bash me in another thread for doing this exact thing.....hypocrite much? people like you just kill me

Sawyer

neilybabes86 wrote:

THEY DON'T KNOW FOR SURE YET !!!!!!!!!!!!!! JEEZ :roll:

FUCK THAT..this isn't battle of the bands at the local high school...if that is true it is pathetic.

Sawyer

zootown wrote:

WAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!! Maybe the 10c should set up a system that they keep score of bonehead threads like this and if you start too many, your 10c number increases! I bet that would keep some people quiet. Do you really think the folks at the 10c have ANYTHING to do with releasing tour dates. Why dont you call Kelly Curtis, or better yet, ring up Eddie and bitch to him---Im sure he would appreciate it! :roll:

i'm going to keep score of how many times 'bonehead' is used.....it is an underutilized term...it sounds like how Ned Flanders would swear.

U R A Crazy Breed

Sawyer wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

Now there is no other band in the world that i would join a fan club for...BUT a lot of other people around here do/are, and i always hear how shitty 10c is when it comes to announcing tour dates and ticket sales.

I don't know how other bands do it but i do know it seems like when it comes to PJ we hear it from 20 other places before we get an official word from the 10c!

so........

what is the problem?

is it the band?

is it their management?

is it 10c staff?

why are other bands able to do what Pearl Jam doesn't seem capable of when it comes to tour news/dates?

didn't you just bash me in another thread for doing this exact thing.....hypocrite much? people like you just kill me

you were telling people to not sell shit!! how the fuck is that in any way related?!!

peacegirl

overall I'm happy with 10C but I do agree with this

Jeanwah wrote:

I think that as a business, 10C could be doing a lot better by actually communicating with their customers...

By us having to resort to finding info from outside sources, it gives them a bad reputation for not being straight forward with any news whatsoever. It's a poor business model.

Flagg

I am actually more frustrated with the band than 10c. 10c can only tell us what they know. it is the band that makes tour plans and then scraps them and then makes more plans and then changes them and doesn't do a full tour and on and on. I've given up on trying to figure out what they think or trying to predict anything they are going to do.

U R A Crazy Breed

Flagg wrote:

I am actually more frustrated with the band than 10c. 10c can only tell us what they know. it is the band that makes tour plans and then scraps them and then makes more plans and then changes them and doesn't do a full tour and on and on. I've given up on trying to figure out what they think or trying to predict anything they are going to do.

excellent point Flagg!

Jeanwah

Flagg wrote:

I am actually more frustrated with the band than 10c. 10c can only tell us what they know. it is the band that makes tour plans and then scraps them and then makes more plans and then changes them and doesn't do a full tour and on and on. I've given up on trying to figure out what they think or trying to predict anything they are going to do.

Band management is in charge of tour schedules...hence Kelly Curtis, hence 10C.

Granted, the band can change their mind last minute and so on, but band management sets up their tours, not the band itself.

pjsteelerfan

Flagg wrote:

I am actually more frustrated with the band than 10c. 10c can only tell us what they know. it is the band that makes tour plans and then scraps them and then makes more plans and then changes them and doesn't do a full tour and on and on. I've given up on trying to figure out what they think or trying to predict anything they are going to do.

I agree. And imagine how everyone would react if 10c says there is a tentative tour in the works and gives dates and areas, then comes out and says tour plans have changed. Then makes another announcement. The another while everything is being worked out. People on here would go berserk.

4Powers20

I just wish they would let us know what the game plan is. You know, like "we will be doing some shows this spring/summer. nothing concrete yet but we will let you know as soon as it is confirmed" or " no tour this summer, but hoping for some shows in the fall"

I am not complaining but it would be nice to have an idea of what might happen. i dont want to commit to other shows or traveling when there could be some pj shows to go to. They have to understand that we are very dedicated fans and alot of our plans are hinged on pj shows. just give us a hint as to what the future may be. i would like to plan a vacation in july but dont want to book anything until I know there arent shows to go to instead.

U R A Crazy Breed

pjsteelerfan wrote:

I agree. And imagine how everyone would react if 10c says there is a tentative tour in the works and gives dates and areas, then comes out and says tour plans have changed. Then makes another announcement. The another while everything is being worked out. People on here would go berserk.

so then the question remains.....how do other bands manage to do it when PJ doesn't seem able to?

StillHere

10C will give us something

When there is something to give.

End of discusssion

In my humble opinion

:roll:

justam

I wouldn't use that expression, and I don't feel they purposely try to be less than helpful, but I do think the organization seems to be rather slow-moving and a bit detached from feeling that they have to do their best.

I don't really understand why though. Is it the employees? Is it the lack of information given to them from the top? Is it a lack of standards to follow? I'm not sure.

If other bands can plan their tours in advance and put out a list of all the dates at once, (like PJ used to do when we had to send money in the mail!!!), why can't they do that now? Why dribble out the information like a leaky faucet? There must be a REASON that they aren't giving us all the information at once, and I'd hate to think that it's just being held back as a way to sell tickets to less desirable locations. (And, I have considered this as their motive!)

I am generally not a complainer, but I DO think it's gotten to the point that if we don't say anything, we are being dishonest about the less than stellar way the business appears to us as fans. The impression we get is that they are treating us like we have to be grateful for whatever scraps of info they throw our way, and grateful if they met any semblance of a deadline, and we have to be happy with whatever they feel like doing.

4Powers20

and the "holiday" single. if they wanted to they could have it out for christmas like it supposed to be. but it takes them months to get them to everyone. couple that with the way they announce shows and it looks like 10c isnt the most organized company. but I love the 10c, so I will let it slide.

U R A Crazy Breed

justam wrote:

If other bands can plan their tours in advance and put out a list of all the dates at once, (like PJ used to do when we had to send money in the mail!!!), why can't they do that now? Why dribble out the information like a leaky faucet? There must be a REASON that they aren't giving us all the information at once, and I'd hate to think that it's just being held back as a way to sell tickets to less desirable locations. (And, I have considered this as their motive!)

I am generally not a complainer, but I DO think it's gotten to the point that if we don't say anything, we are being dishonest about the less than stellar way the business appears to us as fans. The impression we get is that they are treating us like we have to be grateful for whatever scraps of info they throw our way, and grateful if they met any semblance of a deadline, and we have to be happy with whatever they feel like doing.

very well said my friend!

Jeanwah

justam wrote:

I wouldn't use that expression, and I don't feel they purposely try to be less than helpful, but I do think the organization seems to be rather slow-moving and a bit detached from feeling that they have to do their best.

I don't really understand why though. Is it the employees? Is it the lack of information given to them from the top? Is it a lack of standards to follow? I'm not sure.

If other bands can plan their tours in advance and put out a list of all the dates at once, (like PJ used to do when we had to send money in the mail!!!), why can't they do that now? Why dribble out the information like a leaky faucet? There must be a REASON that they aren't giving us all the information at once, and I'd hate to think that it's just being held back as a way to sell tickets to less desirable locations. (And, I have considered this as their motive!)

I am generally not a complainer, but I DO think it's gotten to the point that if we don't say anything, we are being dishonest about the less than stellar way the business appears to us as fans. The impression we get is that they are treating us like we have to be grateful for whatever scraps of info they throw our way, and grateful if they met any semblance of a deadline, and we have to be happy with whatever they feel like doing.

I completely agree with this. Perhaps management knows exactly what they're doing, and are more organized than what we see. But, they sure don't convey it that way. I can't help but think that they do not respect us as loyal customers, which is a bad business practice.

decides2dream

justam wrote:

I wouldn't use that expression, and I don't feel they purposely try to be less than helpful, but I do think the organization seems to be rather slow-moving and a bit detached from feeling that they have to do their best.

I don't really understand why though. Is it the employees? Is it the lack of information given to them from the top? Is it a lack of standards to follow? I'm not sure.

If other bands can plan their tours in advance and put out a list of all the dates at once, (like PJ used to do when we had to send money in the mail!!!), why can't they do that now? Why dribble out the information like a leaky faucet? There must be a REASON that they aren't giving us all the information at once, and I'd hate to think that it's just being held back as a way to sell tickets to less desirable locations. (And, I have considered this as their motive!)

I am generally not a complainer, but I DO think it's gotten to the point that if we don't say anything, we are being dishonest about the less than stellar way the business appears to us as fans. The impression we get is that they are treating us like we have to be grateful for whatever scraps of info they throw our way, and grateful if they met any semblance of a deadline, and we have to be happy with whatever they feel like doing.

well said my friend.
shit on? not so much. but all the rest....sure.

i also think that nowadays the instant access to information, rumors, etc thru the internet makes it a whole new world, and perhaps 10c/pj just don't quite see/plan it like that.