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so many ed/PJ haters...

chikevinchikevin Posts: 421
edited April 2008 in The Porch
are we missing something?
don't get me wrong, PJ are my boys, but...
look at the 90s and they always have bands chosen ahead of them.
look at the 2000's and you have to wonder if anyone outside of the 'hardcore' fans have truly paid attention.



question:
is it possible we all just love a band that had a huge run and is long past being relevant?
don't get me wrong, i think WWS is their best radio song in years, but, in the end....the just didn't connect.

is PJ living off reputation? i'm not saying they are, just asking...
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,291
    Uh no.


    While they don't sell records at 90's levels the sell out arenas faster than pretty much any other band of our generation.
    The only other bands that compete for live numbers are...

    Dave Matthews Band and
    The Rolling Stones

    The have perhaps the biggest cult following since the Greatful Dead. If they aren't in the limelight, it's only because they choose not to be.

    The band is tight, musically and as a group. They aren't going anywhere for a long time. They are living legends. Take it up while you can because IMO they are one of the greatest bands of our time.
  • ONCE DEVIDEDONCE DEVIDED Posts: 1,131
    chikevin wrote:
    are we missing something?
    don't get me wrong, PJ are my boys, but...
    look at the 90s and they always have bands chosen ahead of them.
    look at the 2000's and you have to wonder if anyone outside of the 'hardcore' fans have truly paid attention.



    question:
    is it possible we all just love a band that had a huge run and is long past being relevant?
    don't get me wrong, i think WWS is their best radio song in years, but, in the end....the just didn't connect.

    is PJ living off reputation? i'm not saying they are, just asking...

    relevaent to who- Are we basing this on the music industry at present if so probably- but thats because the industry is completly fabricated and crap these days. especially the american market.
    Pearl Jam is still very relevent to me. every album so far has offered me somthing different and has been really good loved them.
    I used to see bands like Blink 182 before they hit it big, when they became RELEVENT they started playing the same shite every album, yes it sold but was it relevent HELL NO it was just grass for the sheep. good luck to them they made a lot of money but geez it got boring reallly quick. The chilli peppers also did this. as have many.
    Pearl jam however have greatly avoided it, thats why they have such a strong fan base
    Intensity with integrity

    rock on PJ with relevence
    AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    Pearl Jam is relevant to you, me, everyone else on this board and to the people who go to the concerts and that should be all that matters. :)
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  • ashtrayrockashtrayrock Posts: 167
    anyone who has seen the band recently knows they are very relevant. you simply don't succeed today as a touring band doing the same gig over and over.

    as far as the subject thread title goes...i'd say there's more people that give the band respect than don't...afterall you just don't survive this long in the business unless the goods are there.

    perhaps the so called haters are ignorant. stranger things have happened.
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  • JordyWordyJordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    a band is only relevant to you if you want them to be.

    Having their songs pumped out on a neverending conveyor belt of shite radio singles (Timbaland im looking at you) doesnt mean an "artist" is relevant or not. thats whether they are marketed or not.

    PJ sells out most places it plays across the planet without promoting the gigs whatsoever.
    The thousands of fans who make the time, spend the money, and keep their fingers on the pulse of what the band are doing are what makes PJ relevant.

    as for being respected the band seem to have supporters and fans among the most famous and talented musicians alive...The Who, U2, REM, Cornell, etc etc
  • halszka123halszka123 Posts: 1,109
    ONCE DEVIDED wrote:
    relevaent to who- Are we basing this on the music industry at present if so probably- but thats because the industry is completly fabricated and crap these days. especially the american market.
    Pearl Jam is still very relevent to me. every album so far has offered me somthing different and has been really good loved them.
    I used to see bands like Blink 182 before they hit it big, when they became RELEVENT they started playing the same shite every album, yes it sold but was it relevent HELL NO it was just grass for the sheep. good luck to them they made a lot of money but geez it got boring reallly quick. The chilli peppers also did this. as have many.
    Pearl jam however have greatly avoided it, thats why they have such a strong fan base
    Intensity with integrity

    rock on PJ with relevence
    I agree.
    Sure, PJ changed and this is the best thing for everyone. Maybe many fans will leave them, but for me this is great, that every single album is different than the last - this is the thing which still keeps me in Their music. I don't say, that every song of Them i love - no, it's not true, but They changes make me still try to understand and go deeper in that.
    And I don't want more popularity for PJ - only as much to keep Them selling Their music in the wide world (to let me buy it...:))
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  • nowayimfaithfullnowayimfaithfull Posts: 2,051
    chikevin wrote:
    are we missing something?
    don't get me wrong, PJ are my boys, but...
    look at the 90s and they always have bands chosen ahead of them.
    look at the 2000's and you have to wonder if anyone outside of the 'hardcore' fans have truly paid attention.



    question:
    is it possible we all just love a band that had a huge run and is long past being relevant?
    don't get me wrong, i think WWS is their best radio song in years, but, in the end....the just didn't connect.

    is PJ living off reputation? i'm not saying they are, just asking...

    It seems you took some time to put this thread out there, and in those thoughts you never once realized who cares. Radio is no way to judge anything, it is an engine for new bands to gain fans, the quality of pjs records alone deservidly gives them the right to decide when their run is over.
    Some people have religion I have Pearl Jam.


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  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    chikevin wrote:
    are we missing something?
    don't get me wrong, PJ are my boys, but...
    look at the 90s and they always have bands chosen ahead of them.
    look at the 2000's and you have to wonder if anyone outside of the 'hardcore' fans have truly paid attention.



    question:
    is it possible we all just love a band that had a huge run and is long past being relevant?
    don't get me wrong, i think WWS is their best radio song in years, but, in the end....the just didn't connect.

    is PJ living off reputation? i'm not saying they are, just asking...
    Did you not see how PJ did in the KROQ Battle of Band Bracket thing during March Madness. I went to the championship match up only to lost to Metallica by a small %...Though many still question how Metallica beat out LEd Zeppelin!!!
    PJ- 04/29/2003.06/24,25,27,28,30/2008.10/27,28,30,31/2009
    EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
  • jubilairesjljubilairesjl Posts: 498
    I'd much rather listen to Pearl Jam than to listen to the "empty" music thats on radio these days. They may not be relevant to the masses anymore but I think that is a good thing.
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    when I told my sister that Pearl Jam is playing 2 nights at MSG with no supporting act, she was like "wow! they must be big!"

    just because pearl jam isn't whoring themselves on MTV and other mainstream channels/radio shows doesn't mean they aren't relevant. I just think that this generation (sadly, it's also my generation...) happens to enjoy pretty shitty music for the most part...
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    chikevin wrote:
    are we missing something?
    don't get me wrong, PJ are my boys, but...
    look at the 90s and they always have bands chosen ahead of them.
    look at the 2000's and you have to wonder if anyone outside of the 'hardcore' fans have truly paid attention.



    question:
    is it possible we all just love a band that had a huge run and is long past being relevant?
    don't get me wrong, i think WWS is their best radio song in years, but, in the end....the just didn't connect.

    is PJ living off reputation? i'm not saying they are, just asking...


    If you asked the average punter and non-fan, they'd say they're living off "Alive". That's the perception I've come across.
  • j13chadj13chad Posts: 29
    If you asked the average punter and non-fan, they'd say they're living off "Alive". That's the perception I've come across.
    04-28-2008 03:58 AM


    So what, name the last Rolling Stones song that was really relevant it was Start Me Up in 1981, and still hard to get a ticket. The point is Pearl Jam is A touring band first and the best at it today, if they wanna be the grateful dead thats awesome, Jam Bands are rare these days enjoy while
    there still in there prime.
  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    I agree with the sentiment that they are relevant to me and that is all I care about. When I am at a show and having one of those connection moments with the music/band/corwd/myself/etc, the last thing on my mind is how critics feel, or how some people roll their eyes when I bring up PJ.

    Relevant? To who?
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