Obama takes on the House Republican Conference

Cliffy6745

Anyone catch this? I am watching a replay of it right now. I would say a job well done Mr. President and I encourage much more of it. I love how he took on many of their points, broke them done and explained why he didnt't agree with them or accpet their policy. He came across a whole lot better than his opposition in my opinion.

I would venture to guess the GOP will not be allowing cameras in next time though.

Jeanwah

Watching it right now, after reading a short summary about Obama putting the GOP in their place.

g under p

I think this was a good thing for BOTH sides to do and should be done more often. Here's a video review of the Conference......Obama Spars With Republicans and at least 2 more should be done. I like to see Obama in the lion's den and how he can handle himself.

Peace

OnTheEdge

g under p wrote:

I think this was a good thing for BOTH sides to do and should be done more often. Here's a video review of the Conference......Obama Spars With Republicans and at least 2 more should be done. I like to see Obama in the lion's den and how he can handle himself.

Peace

:thumbup: These two parties have got to start working together, this feels like a start, it feels right.

WaveCameCrashin

I laughed when Obama said

Im not an ideologue

when he was talking about healthcare. :think: :eh: yeah suuuuuure you're not. Here's an :idea: Mr.President. Let consumers buy across state lines and Tort Reform. We know tort reform will never happen though because the trial lawyers are your biggest contributors to your party.

He will never support a liberating agenda that's good for the private sector.His entire agenda is about BIG GOVERNMENT,and that is his ideology.

coltsman8989

I caught some of it on the news tonight and I've gotta say right on, Mr. President. It's nice to see him at least trying to work with the other side. Partisan bickering cripples the democratic process too much so it was nice to see him try to reach across the aisle and at least attempt to smooth relations before the volatile election season we're facing.

blackredyellow

prfctlefts wrote:

Here's an :idea: Mr.President. Let consumers buy across state lines and Tort Reform.

Tort reform I agree with, but I've asked this on any political forum that I've been on and never gotten a real answer... what is the benefits of letting consumers buy across state lines? And before you say competition, what incentive is it for doctors offices to accept hundreds of different insurance plans (and all of their specific procedures and forms that go a long with them)? If I can buy a cheaper plan from Arizona, what good is it if my doctor won't take it?

OutOfBreath

prfctlefts wrote:

I laughed when Obama said

Im not an ideologue

when he was talking about healthcare. :think: :eh: yeah suuuuuure you're not. Here's an :idea: Mr.President. Let consumers buy across state lines and Tort Reform. We know tort reform will never happen though because the trial lawyers are your biggest contributors to your party.

He will never support a liberating agenda that's good for the private sector.His entire agenda is about BIG GOVERNMENT,and that is his ideology.

I dont see the point of buying across state lines either. I can't see that as anything else but adding another layer of bureaucracy, and your system has more than enough of that. And generally, talking from my position within welfare administration, every time you let people choose something, the more costly it is to administrate. We see that in mom and dad leave (1st year after born) where they now have complete freedom to divide up the time between them, and change their minds at the last minute. Before, they could only take that leave in chunks, while they now can split the days of the week. Politically and so on, I think it's great, but administratively it's a lot harder to manage and we spend more resources on this now.

What you need is the removal of an administrative layer or two to free up the resources, not the addition of one. The more alternatives you allow, the costlier it gets to administer is the rule of thumb. Single payer would slice away all the billing departments across the US within hospitals and health care. Now that, would be a move towards efficiency.

Peace
Dan

WaveCameCrashin

OutOfBreath wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

I laughed when Obama said

Im not an ideologue

when he was talking about healthcare. :think: :eh: yeah suuuuuure you're not. Here's an :idea: Mr.President. Let consumers buy across state lines and Tort Reform. We know tort reform will never happen though because the trial lawyers are your biggest contributors to your party.

He will never support a liberating agenda that's good for the private sector.His entire agenda is about BIG GOVERNMENT,and that is his ideology.

I dont see the point of buying across state lines either. I can't see that as anything else but adding another layer of bureaucracy, and your system has more than enough of that. And generally, talking from my position within welfare administration, every time you let people choose something, the more costly it is to administrate. We see that in mom and dad leave (1st year after born) where they now have complete freedom to divide up the time between them, and change their minds at the last minute. Before, they could only take that leave in chunks, while they now can split the days of the week. Politically and so on, I think it's great, but administratively it's a lot harder to manage and we spend more resources on this now.

What you need is the removal of an administrative layer or two to free up the resources, not the addition of one. The more alternatives you allow, the costlier it gets to administer is the rule of thumb. Single payer would slice away all the billing departments across the US within hospitals and health care. Now that, would be a move towards efficiency.

Peace
Dan

I don't want to derail this thread but, if you think a single payer sytem is going to make things easier you're nuts with all due respect.It would create a hudge bureaucracy. More Government. It would be a disaster.
http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA555_Sw ... _Care.html

WaveCameCrashin

blackredyellow wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

Here's an :idea: Mr.President. Let consumers buy across state lines and Tort Reform.

Tort reform I agree with, but I've asked this on any political forum that I've been on and never gotten a real answer... what is the benefits of letting consumers buy across state lines? And before you say competition, what incentive is it for doctors offices to accept hundreds of different insurance plans (and all of their specific procedures and forms that go a long with them)? If I can buy a cheaper plan from Arizona, what good is it if my doctor won't take it?

maybe this will heip..
http://www.heritage.org/research/healthcare/wm1164.cfm

OnTheEdge

prfctlefts wrote:

blackredyellow wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

Here's an :idea: Mr.President. Let consumers buy across state lines and Tort Reform.

Tort reform I agree with, but I've asked this on any political forum that I've been on and never gotten a real answer... what is the benefits of letting consumers buy across state lines? And before you say competition, what incentive is it for doctors offices to accept hundreds of different insurance plans (and all of their specific procedures and forms that go a long with them)? If I can buy a cheaper plan from Arizona, what good is it if my doctor won't take it?

maybe this will heip..
http://www.heritage.org/research/healthcare/wm1164.cfm

Good article. I've always felt that the only reason people support the new bill Obama is trying to pass is because they (the people) have been trained to feel like they (the government) are the only ones that can fix it....WRONG! I don't understand why anybody would want and support BIGGER government.

inmytree

prfctlefts wrote:

I laughed when Obama said

Im not an ideologue

when he was talking about healthcare. :think: :eh: yeah suuuuuure you're not. Here's an :idea: Mr.President. Let consumers buy across state lines and Tort Reform. We know tort reform will never happen though because the trial lawyers are your biggest contributors to your party.

He will never support a liberating agenda that's good for the private sector.His entire agenda is about BIG GOVERNMENT,and that is his ideology.

A) Obama made the repubs look like fools at teh Q and A....

do you know how many states currently have some sort of tort reform in place...? Hint: 38

Pepe Silvia

prfctlefts wrote:

I laughed when Obama said

Im not an ideologue

when he was talking about healthcare. :think: :eh: yeah suuuuuure you're not. Here's an :idea: Mr.President. Let consumers buy across state lines and Tort Reform. We know tort reform will never happen though because the trial lawyers are your biggest contributors to your party.

He will never support a liberating agenda that's good for the private sector.His entire agenda is about BIG GOVERNMENT,and that is his ideology.

he's not an ideologue, he's a tool for the empire and corporate backers. that health care plan is shit,some say 'small change is better than nothin!' but that is far from the campaign rhetoric echoed ad nauseam. it gives up many of the things promised like importing drugs and gets far too little in return. this 'small change' bs is just a stall tactic to keep making money off of the system.

was there ever a president in history that didn't expand government? not defending it, far too much is wasted. politics is basically a scam to get their hands on tax money and make sure their schemes aren't regulated. trillions are unaccountable from the defense budget over the years. billions unaccounted for in Iraq. useless earmarks (where's that website, Obama?)

sadly it's what the majority of the voting public supports every election cycle. it's kinda funny hearing both sides thump their chests and say 'my guy is gonna do this and this and this!' then if he wins they just shrug and say 'i bet he told his dentist he'd floss everyday, too'