Will You Watch The State Of The Union Address?

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edited January 2010 in A Moving Train
Tonight President Obama will be on presenting his first State Of The Union Address to a Joint Session Of Congress. In this speech the President will address some of the major problems our nation currently faces, as well as lay out a national plan to solve such problems.

No matter what your political stance, will you watch to be able to critique the President's plan for a road to recovery?

I usually don't watch these speeches, I've watched about 4 in it's entirety mostly of President Bush. I'll watch this one for sure just to get a sense of the plan of how this nation's problems will be solved.

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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    no I've lost my faith
  • I'll probably watch it... This speech and it's aftermath is pretty much my one last chance that I'm giving Obama to get some stuff done instead of just talking about it.
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  • DPrival78DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    no
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    Unfortunately I won't be able to and I forgot to set up the DVR.
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  • yahamitayahamita Posts: 1,514
    Tough choice. I can either watch the lies coming out of his mouth, or head out and see a great Bluegrass band from Colorado, Head for the Hills..perfect name for this band and the state of this country..
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  • blenderman69blenderman69 philly Posts: 2,104
    i thought i'd have it on in the background while i made love to my wife....he's just gonna tell us we're all fucked anyway...so why not fuck while i'm getting fucked :D
  • I have no interest in politics, especially electoral politics. At this point it seems so useless to do any of that.

    Things I wish obama would say in the speech-

    pulling out all troops from iraq and afghanistan

    installing a fdr/new deal style organization and infrastructure that will put people to work. Something along the lines of a WPA. admit he was absolutely out of his mind clueless when he declared the recession is over, and get down to the nitty gritty: helping those millions of people right now, who cant pay their bills, who are losing their houses, their farms, their jobs.

    make definite and clear statements that we will reduce carbon emissions by huge amounts, and that we need as a nation need to pull together to deal seriously with the climate crisis. Recycling is great, but lets face it, more needs to be done and said reguarding the crisis than that.

    a nationwide effort to come to terms and deal honestly with race relations.

    that the criminal justice system and the prison industrial complex is racist, and classist and that it needs to be overhauled. That building more jails, bigger jails, or jailing more people, really is pointless.

    legalize drugs. As long as drugs are illegal, or until we deal with the race problem identified above, race and drugs will always be linked. For reasons beyond my comprehension, the larger society has been able to link drugs use with race, and has been able to jail non violent drug users, mostly black, while not jailing white users with the same severity or frequency.
  • so in conclusion, no i will not watch. Obama is a liar. He is no different than the 43 other presidents in history or whatever it is. Its just his skin color is different. Thats the only difference. He is not god. He is a politician.

    I resisted being caught up in the "Hope" fervor prior to the election, because I knew it was all a game and hoax. I knew he was and is a politician, he knows who he works for, and it aint us.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I gave up watching them because every third word is interrupted by two minutes of applause.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    I may try, but give up in the first five minutes...as usual. Nothing but empty promises.

    Really, why do they bother having these addresses? To hear their own applause?
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    I probably won't watch it, but I'll listen to it. 8-)
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    I will watch......to see who yells at him this time
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  • dpmaydpmay Posts: 643
    CJMST3K wrote:
    I probably won't watch it, but I'll listen to it. 8-)

    this. three cheers for NPR!
  • this state of the union address is nothing but a checklist for us to jot down that will leave every box blank
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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,315
    I watch every year regardless of president. It was definitely one of the longer ones in recent memory.
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  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Haha, he was talking to Congress as if they were schoolkids in detention... but they deserved it.

    I actually liked what he said and how he said it... well, pretty much... in relative terms, of course. Unlike Bush, he at least seems to give a shit about what he's saying. Too much cynicism about government out there. We're not any better than they are... put it that way.
  • Kenny Olav wrote:
    Haha, he was talking to Congress as if they were schoolkids in detention... but they deserved it.

    I actually liked what he said and how he said it... well, pretty much... in relative terms, of course. Unlike Bush, he at least seems to give a shit about what he's saying. Too much cynicism about government out there. We're not any better than they are... put it that way.


    i know its not kosher right now to be cynical, as team conan would say, but how can you look at politics and not be cynical about it?

    Just taking obama as an example, the guy was basically called the next jesus christ prior to his election, was widely believed that he was going to radically alter what being a politican meant, and that he actually, for once was going to change things.

    A year into it, how can you not look at him and be cynical about everything? He and everyone else turned their backs on the soldiers, on the workers, on everyone. Its sad.

    As I said before, I am beyond bored with electoral politics. It just is of no interest to me
  • Kenny Olav wrote:
    Haha, he was talking to Congress as if they were schoolkids in detention... but they deserved it.

    I actually liked what he said and how he said it... well, pretty much... in relative terms, of course. Unlike Bush, he at least seems to give a shit about what he's saying. Too much cynicism about government out there. We're not any better than they are... put it that way.


    I guess the main difference, is neither you nor I was elected to an office to serve on behalf of the country, our state, and our constituency. When you are elected to office, you have a duty to listen to the public. Bush certainly didnt do it, but obama isnt listening either.
  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    Just taking obama as an example, the guy was basically called the next jesus christ prior to his election,

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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    I watched...it was pretty good...cutting taxes, creating jobs, security, pass the health care bill...the usual stuff...

    The Republican response was like an infomercial for the Ronco Rotisserie Oven...
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Well I did watch last night and watched the whole speech. A bit long 70 minutes I think, loved the try at humor to loosen up things, the usual things economy, jobs, health care, Dems-Repubs come together etc etc etc. However the most significant I think he said speaking about last week's Supreme Court decision for corporate American. I loved when it appeared a few justices squirming in their seats, they need to feel uncomfortable because that was one of THE worst decisions they have ever made.

    Then again we should already know by now corporations have been REALLY running this country for years.

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    g under p wrote:
    Well I did watch last night and watched the whole speech. A bit long 70 minutes I think, loved the try at humor to loosen up things, the usual things economy, jobs, health care, Dems-Repubs come together etc etc etc. However the most significant I think he said speaking about last week's Supreme Court decision for corporate American. I loved when it appeared a few justices squirming in their seats, they need to feel uncomfortable because that was one of THE worst decisions they have ever made.

    Then again we should already know by now corporations have been REALLY running this country for years.

    Peace
    yeah did you see Alito say something in disgust when obama talked about that decision? i think he said something like "that's not true!" whatever he said, he was clearly not happy that obama brought it up....i wonder how he felt when the dems behind him stood up and applauded? the conspiracy theorist in my makes me think that roberts, alito, scalia, thomas, and the 5th conservative might be benefitting from that decision somehow...

    overall i was not happy with the way the gop did not applaud some of the things he said. it was easy to see that they have so much contempt for not only the man's policies, but for the man himself. at least the dems acted like they gave a shit or agreed with the stupidity coming our of bush's mouth the 8 times he gave the speech...at least they applauded him when they knew he was full of shit...i was watching and thinking "come on people, humor me here..."
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  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,381
    i did not watch last night, but have a question. was outsourcing our manufacturing industry a good idea?
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    A toon on....The State Of The Union We'd Like To See....."and I promise not to be such a wuss." :D

    Peace
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    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • g under p wrote:
    Well I did watch last night and watched the whole speech. A bit long 70 minutes I think, loved the try at humor to loosen up things, the usual things economy, jobs, health care, Dems-Repubs come together etc etc etc. However the most significant I think he said speaking about last week's Supreme Court decision for corporate American. I loved when it appeared a few justices squirming in their seats, they need to feel uncomfortable because that was one of THE worst decisions they have ever made.

    Then again we should already know by now corporations have been REALLY running this country for years.

    Peace

    :think: :think: :think: :wtf: :thumbdown:

    No wonder Alito said what he did

    For Obama to say that the Supreme Court changed 100 years of precedent is incredibly dumb or incredibly devious. I don't know which is worse.

    They changed Mcain/Fingold because it was UN-CONSTITUTIONAL. and it's not not 100 years old.


    Obama’s Shameless Demagoguery [Bradley A. Smith]
    The full story is this:

    (1) The Citizens United case dealt with a blanket ban on corporate expenditures. The Court struck down the ban, which is part of 2 USC 441b.

    (2) A separate section of the law, 2 USC 441e, prohibits “foreign nationals” from making expenditures or contributions. “Foreign nationals” includes corporations that are not incorporated or headquartered in the United States. This is an extremely broad prohibition that applies to any U.S. election (including state and local elections) and to any activity “in connection with” an election. The Citizens United ruling doesn’t touch this prohibition and specifically notes that it makes no judgment about foreign corporations.

    (3) This would allow a U.S. corporation, incorporated and headquartered in the United States, to make expenditures (Obama, remember, referred to “foreign corporations”). But . . .

    (4) FEC regulations at 11 CFR 110.20 further delineate the prohibition:

    A foreign national shall not direct, dictate, control, or directly or indirectly participate in the decision making process of any person, such as a corporation, labor organization, political committee, or political organization with regard to such person's Federal or non-Federal election-related activities, such as decisions concerning the making of contributions, donations, expenditures, or disbursements in connection with elections for any Federal, State, or local office or decisions concerning the administration of a political committee.
    Additionally, the FEC requires that any funds so spent come from U.S.-generated income (in other words, the parent corporation cannot send capital to the U.S. subsidiary and then have the subsidiary spend that in connection with U.S. elections). Therefore . . .

    (5) You could have a foreign-owned but U.S.-incorporated-and-headquartered subsidiary, using U.S. funds, controlled solely by U.S. nationals, make expenditures. However, bear in mind that . . .

    (6) Such a corporation is already eligible to operate a PAC — which can make unlimited expenditures and also make contributions directly to candidates (under the same restrictions of U.S. funds managed by U.S. nationals) — and to spend unlimited sums from any source. Its executives and managers who are U.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents (i.e., the same people who would have to decide on any corporate spending) are already eligible to spend unlimited sums on U.S. elections.

    So claiming that the Citizens United decision will allow “foreign corporations to spend without limits in our elections” is as misleading as saying that “Obama and the Democratic Congress have allowed foreign corporations to spend without limits in our elections.” The corporate ban is not about foreign contributions, and the government never tried to defend it as such. To suggest that this ruling allows foreign expenditures in elections is wholly misleading.

    We might say that the president’s statement is not a lie, because it contains a small kernel of truth. But that kernel of truth is what separates lies from demagoguery. The president’s statement was shameless demagoguery.

    — Bradley A. Smith is Josiah H. Blackmore II/Shirley M. Nault Designated Professor of Law at Capital University Law School.
  • More Lies from Obama's State of delusion speech.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/t ... s-for-them
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