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  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    badbrains wrote:
    News for all, NOTHING will happen to Israel. No matter what the outcome will be, Israel will do nothing. Shit for how many decades have they been ignoring the UN? How many inocent people has the GOVERNMENT killed? And still no responsibility taken by her. Look back at what happened to the USS Liberty. Look at how America responded to that fiasco. If you guys dnt know, please go find out about it. I understand the anger and pain this subject brings but I hate to say it, but Nothings gonna come out of this. It's a farse to even have this trial. Guilty as charged, you see it right in front of you. The whole world saw it how many years ago???? Exactly...oh and how ironic, tickets to see pj at MSG go on sale on rachels anniversary...to bad she can't join us all....
    i want the isreali military and the bulldozer driver to admit guilt. the eyewitnesses say he had to have seen her. she was wearing an orange vest and standing on a raised level of earth. i realize this will not bring her back, but at least it can allow her family and friends to have some sort of closure and begin to heal...


    not to mention the Israeli government initially lied about what happened, as they always do when they kill a civilian like that british journalist, James Miller when they said a Palestinian killed him when their video camera shows NO Palestinians were shooting, the only shots came from the IDFs APC while they were waving a white flag and had MEDIA on their vests and helmets and just finished yelling "hello, we are british journalists"....and btw, the officer that shot and killed him was later promoted and James miller's widow and kids had to fight Israel in court for years because Israel didn't want to pay them any money despite murdering him

    anyway, the Israeli government's story was she was hiding behind brush and the brush rolled on top of her and killed her :roll:

    despite protocol saying there was supposed to be a spotter on the ground to make sure the bulldozer doesn't hit anyone or thing it shouldn't
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Hey pepe, i saw that doc on hbo about miller. That shit was fucked up man. Isn't it funny, actually not, but how countries are still paying millions to holocaust survivers but yet the Israeli government refuses to pay shit to anyone....but hey israels the greatest country in the world!!!!
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    badbrains wrote:
    Hey pepe, i saw that doc on hbo about miller. That shit was fucked up man. Isn't it funny, actually not, but how countries are still paying millions to holocaust survivers but yet the Israeli government refuses to pay shit to anyone....but hey israels the greatest country in the world!!!!


    yeah, they fought against paying her anything for years until she had the tape analyzed proving there was no battle going on, the ONLY shots came from the Israeli APC and then Israel quickly settled out of court :roll:

    they initially claimed the APC came under fire by Palestinian militants and the Palestinians are the ones who shot Miller and he knew the chances of entering a combat zone!

    and then when they bombed UN and Red Cross buildings during operation cast lead at first they said it was a lie, then they said there were militants hiding there and shooting at them, then they changed it to it was a targeting error, even though they were given the coordinates by those agencies well before the attack happened.

    or i remember when the reports of them using white phosphorus first came out, i wish those threads were still around...i remember the snide replies of that is a stupid lie, they would never do that, just terrorist propaganda....because, of course, Israel said it wasn't even worth responding to....later when it was proven they did use it they said it was only to illuminate the battlefield....and then when pics came out of it being used in the day time, over a UN building with over 700 Palestinians hiding they said oh, well, we'll put a fucking post-it note in 2 officers files, maybe they even shook their fingers at them
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,440
    or i remember when the reports of them using white phosphorus first came out, i wish those threads were still around...i remember the snide replies of that is a stupid lie, they would never do that, just terrorist propaganda....because, of course, Israel said it wasn't even worth responding to....later when it was proven they did use it they said it was only to illuminate the battlefield....and then when pics came out of it being used in the day time, over a UN building with over 700 Palestinians hiding they said oh, well, we'll put a fucking post-it note in 2 officers files, maybe they even shook their fingers at them
    i remember those threads, pics of burned and mutilated palestinian civillians that were hit by the phosphorous. IN BROAD DAYLIGHT no less...those images are seared into my memory. i could describe a few of them, like the one of the young mother with half her head blown off and the remnant charred black while holding her dead baby...yeah...isreal is the greatest... they murdered Rachel just like they murdered that journalist and thousands of palestinians, and then they deny it in order to not pay any damages...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    I also remember them saying it was the Palestinians were the ones who used white phosphorus or was that Hezbollah? It's never Israel remember that. They are the victims not the aggressors..
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    badbrains wrote:
    I also remember them saying it was the Palestinians were the ones who used white phosphorus or was that Hezbollah? It's never Israel remember that. They are the victims not the aggressors..

    and when I say they, as in Israel, I mean the GOVERNMENT....oh and the ITF too.
  • alivegirl
    alivegirl Posts: 124

    anyway, the Israeli government's story was she was hiding behind brush and the brush rolled on top of her and killed her :roll:

    You've got to be kidding!


    RIP RACHEL
    LONG LIVE YOUR LEGACY
  • bump kids.

    just a reminder for anyone wishing to attend, this is only a few days away now..
    Seeking Accountability, Seeking Justice: Rachel Corrie Seven Years Later

    On the seventh anniversary of the death of Rachel Corrie – the Olympian woman crushed to death by an Israeli military Caterpillar bulldozer as she stood protecting a Palestinian families home in Gaza – we come together to remember Rachel and to stand in solidarity with the Palestinian people who continue to suffer under Israeli occupation.

    Join us at The Urban Onion Ballroom on March 16th at 6:30pm.
    116 Legion Way SE, Olympia, WA

    We will begin the evening with a community potluck, please bring a dish to share and enjoy with others. Beverages, utensils and plates will be provided. The potluck will be followed by an overview of the journey seeking justice for Rachel’s killing over the past seven years and an update on the civil court case that Cindy and Craig Corrie, Rachel’s parents, have filed in Israel seeking accountability for Rachel’s killing. The Corrie’s will be in Israel during this time and we will get an update on the proceedings taking place. We will also hear from our friends at the Rachel Corrie Youth and Cultural Center in Rafah and learn about their activities and remembrance of Rachel on this day. The evening will close with music by Olympia native Afrok and accompanying band.

    Please join us!

    Download the flyer: Seeking Accountability, Seeking Justice: Rachel Corrie Seven Years Later Flyer (pdf, 1.1 MB)

    Contact
    Serena Becker, The Rachel Corrie Foundation for Peace and Justice

    Phone: 360.754.3998
    Email: <!-- e --><a href="mailto:serena@rachelcorriefoundation.org">serena@rachelcorriefoundation.org</a><!-- e -->




    just a heads up for anyone who may wish to attend and is not familiar with the venue, it's just across from Sylvester Park.
  • "I feel like I'm witnessing the systematic destruction of a people's ability to survive. It's horrifying...It takes a while to get what's happening here. People here are trying to maintain their lives, trying to be happy. Sometimes I sit down to dinner with people and I realize there is a massive military machine surrounding us, trying to kill the people I'm having dinner with."
    - Rachel Corrie
  • Corrie Family trial updates here

    latest.

    Haaretz: Army documents suggest general cut short probe into Rachel Corrie’s death
    Jack Khoury, Haaretz

    The Military Police interrogation of a key suspect in the killing of American human rights activist Rachel Corrie was cut short by a direct order of then GOC Southern, Maj. Gen. Doron Almog, army documents obtained by Haaretz suggest.

    The documents come from the Military Police investigation file and were submitted as evidence to the Haifa District Court when a member of the MP investigation team testified in court during the civil lawsuit case Corrie’s family has brought against the State of Israel.

    The Corries’ attorney, Hussein Abu Hussein, confronted the former investigator with a protocol of his questioning of the commander of the D9 Caterpillar bulldozer that drove over the activist. The officer’s record states his interrogation of the bulldozer commander came to an unusual end. “It’s now 18:12. Maj (res.) K entered the interrogation room and told the witness he must not say anything or write anything, by a direct order from GOC Southern Command. I confirm this occurred and I sign this in my hand,” the officer wrote, adding his signature. There the interrogation concluded.

    Prior to the intervention the soldier was describing the moment he understood Rachel Corrie had been hurt, insisting he could not see her from the driver’s cabin.

    Although the bulldozer commander later gave further testimony, Abu Hussein said the Corrie family took the interference of such a senior officer very seriously. “This makes it absolutely clear there was at least an attempt, no matter how effective, to intervene in the investigation,” he told Haaretz. “The documents proves it, black on white, that there was an attempt to prevent the bulldozer driver from giving a full testimony on the circumstances in which the deceased was killed.”

    Abu Hussein also said that this violated a promise by then prime minister Ariel Sharon to then American president George W. Bush to carry out a thorough, in-depth investigation.

    Claims about attempts by Almog to influence the investigation were also made at a hearing in the Rishon Letzion Magistrate’s Court on March 18, 2003. Military Police approached the court to obtain an autopsy order for Corrie’s body, to determine whether she was indeed crushed by the bulldozer or killed by hand-grenades soldiers were alleged to have thrown during the incident.

    The court record states that one of the investigating officers said the Military Police had been delayed “by an argument between GOC Southern Command and the military advocate general about whether to investigate and on what charges.”

    Corrie, 23, whose hometown is Olympia, Washington, was killed in Rafah on March 16, 2003, while standing in front of a bulldozer that was demolishing structures along the Philadelphi route. The IDF claims the 65-ton bulldozer never touched Corrie, while eyewitnesses insist it crushed her deliberately.

    Maj. Gen. (res.) Doron Almog told Haaretz that he had no knowledge of the claims and no intention to comment. He said he had no idea what documents were in question or how reliable they were, as seven years have passed since the event. Almog noted that while he did not wish to discuss the details of this particular event, he had never covered up any investigation and a full internal investigation was carried out in his command at the time and submitted to the chief of staff. The IDF spokesperson was not available for comment.
  • Military investigator testifies that head of IDF Southern Command instructed bulldozer operator not to cooperate with investigation
    Monday, March 22 and Wednesday March 24, 2010 the Haifa District Court saw the fifth and sixth days of testimony in the civil lawsuit filed by Rachel Corrie’s family against the State of Israel for her unlawful killing in Rafah, Gaza. Rachel Corrie, an American human rights defender from Olympia, Washington, was crushed to death on March 16, 2003 by a Caterpillar D9R bulldozer. She had been nonviolently demonstrating against Palestinian home demolitions with fellow members of the International Solidarity Movement (ISM), a Palestinian-led movement committed to resisting the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land using nonviolent, direct action methods and principles.

    An Israeli military police investigator, who was part of the team that investigated Rachel’s killing, completed his testimony on March 22. In his testimony he stated that:

    ■One commander of the unit involved in the incident interrupted the testimony of the operator of the bulldozer that killed Rachel, telling him that the head of the Southern Command of the Israeli military ordered him to stop talking, not to sign anything and not to cooperate with the investigation. When asked if he considered this an intervention into the interrogation, the investigator testified that he did.
    ■The investigator stated not only that he did not visit the site of the killing, but also that the bulldozer involved in the killing was removed from the scene directly after the incident. He testified that the only tool he used in conducting the investigation was taking testimonies of eye-witnesses and soldiers.
    ■In his investigation, he did not refer to or read the Israeli military manuals that provided instructions and safety standards for operation of D9 bulldozers. He also failed to question the bulldozer driver about these regulations.
    ■Though the camera posted on the border was taping 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, the investigator testified that he did not see footage from the camera, nor did he ask to, stating that it was someone else’s responsibility.
    Asher Asban, who conducts professional investigations involving safety regulations related to both commercial and military incidents, provided expert testimony for the Corries. He testified that:

    ■According to the military’s rules, it was forbidden to operate the D9 bulldozer if there were civilians within a 20 meter radius around it.
    ■The driver would have been able to see bright colors such as that of the jacket Rachel was wearing when she was killed.
    ■The Israeli military had the ability to purchase cameras from Caterpillar to mount on the bulldozers. Such cameras would provide 360 degrees visibility.
    On Wednesday, March 24, Craig Corrie, Rachel’s father, was the final witness to testify. Rather than concentrating on the failure to uphold a court order regarding two conditions under which to perform an autopsy, the State instead focused its line of questioning on passages from emails that Rachel wrote and on the family’s correspondence with the US Embassy and State Department regarding the issue of the autopsy and investigation. Mr. Corrie was also questioned as to whether Rachel was given the status of “shaheedah” (martyr) by the Palestinian Authority, and whether there were any streets named after her in Gaza or Ramallah. He answered that on the March 16th anniversary of Rachel’s death, a street was named for her in Ramallah and that according to his understanding of the word “shaheed,” it is used to describe anyone killed as a result of the occupation.

    http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/2010/03/985
  • This portion of the trial with witnesses for the plaintiffs, the Corrie family, ended on March 24. The State has been granted 30 days to submit a list of witnesses and their affidavits. Judge Oded Gershon stated that proceedings will continue in September at the earliest with the next trial date currently set for September 5, 2010.
  • Byrnzie
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  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
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    “The international media and our government are not going to tell us that we are effective, important, justified in our work, courageous, intelligent, valuable. We have to do that for each other, and one way we can do that is by continuing our work, visibly. People without privilege will be doing this work no matter what, because they are working for their lives. We can work with them, and they know that we work with them, or we can leave them to do this work themselves and curse us for our complicity in killing them.”
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    Rachel - A Documentary, will be shown in French cinemas, after the cinema chain decided to cancel screenings of an Israeli film in protest against Israel's attack on the Gaza Freedom Flotialla.

    June 5, 2010
    2 days ago French cinema chain cancels Israeli film, replaces with one on Rachel Corrie. #Flotilla

    The news website France-Info reported late on 4 June that a French cinema chain decided to cancel screenings of an Israeli film, Leon Prudovsky's Five Hours From Paris to protest Israel's attack on the Gaza Freedom Flotilla on 31 May which killed at least 9 and injured dozens of humanitarian activists attempting to break the blockade of Gaza.

    The report states (my translation):

    “The feature film is supposed to open on 23 June in about forty cinemas in France. The film has no connection with the political and military events of recent days, but for several days the cancelations have been mounting. In canceling this feature, the Utopia network of cinemas intends to register a protest.”Le Monde adds (my translation):

    Utopia, which has cinemas in Avignon, Bordeaux, Montpellier and Toulouse decided to show instead the film Rachel (2008), a documentary by Simone Bitton dedicated to Rachel Corrie, the 22-year-old American peace activist crushed by an Israeli bulldozer in the Gaza Strip in 2003 as she attempted to prevent the destruction of Palestinian homes.
    The canceled film Five Hours from Paris is a romantic comedy about an Israeli who dreams of visiting Paris, but must overcome his fear of flying. Ironically, 1.5 million Palestinians have been imprisoned in the Gaza Strip for four years (and they are also afraid of flying Israelis, albeit in F-16s), and are virtually banned from traveling for almost any purpose, including study or family reunification. Hundreds have died due to long delays or refusals of permits to leave Gaza for urgently needed medical care. Few Palestinians in Gaza -- where 80 percent of the population are refugees -- can ever dream of a holiday in Paris.

    Moroccan-born Simone Bitton, who emigrated to Israel with her family as a child in 1966, previously made Wall among other films.

    Early on 5 June, Israeli forces hijacked a ship named for Rachel Corrie, with activists including Nobel Peace Prize winner Mairead Maguire and aid supplies aboard, as it attempted to break the blockade of Gaza.
  • the 793,520 children of Gaza (56% of the population) have lived under occupation and siege all of their lives. They are beautiful, resilient, curious and full of potential. They deserve the basics that all children in the world should have. Food, clean water, healthcare, safe places to play and learn. They deserve the tools to deal with their nightmares, and sleep that is not punctuated by bombing. They deserve life, freedom, and hope.

    - Rachel's mom.
    Cindy Corrie.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    We should be inspired by people... who show that human beings can be kind, brave, generous, beautiful, strong-even in the most difficult circumstances.

    -Rachel Corrie
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    To stand against injustice, literally and to give your life for it......i can't imagine her struggle or her family's. she gave her life for a cause...and i know it was not in vain.


    non violence is effective, it may be the only way in some cases....it may be hard to see it when you are in it....hard to accept it is making a difference....but it adds up. history is proof of that.

    Israeli injustice will be brought to light. And until that day, the nonviolent, those seeking justice, those willing for peace, they will struggle, we will struggle.....and we will win.


    i am lost i'm no guide.,...........


    history can be the jury.
  • Commy wrote:
    To stand against injustice, literally and to give your life for it......i can't imagine her struggle or her family's. she gave her life for a cause...and i know it was not in vain.


    non violence is effective, it may be the only way in some cases....it may be hard to see it when you are in it....hard to accept it is making a difference....but it adds up. history is proof of that.

    Israeli injustice will be brought to light. And until that day, the nonviolent, those seeking justice, those willing for peace, they will struggle, we will struggle.....and we will win.


    i am lost i'm no guide.,...........


    history can be the jury.
    the world community is definitely showing more awareness of Israel's disregard for human lives and disrespect for international laws.

    it's been a long time coming but it's finally happening. people need to continue to speak out, and Israel has to be held accountable for their actions if there is ever going to be a just peace between Palestine and Israel.
  • the 793,520 children of Gaza (56% of the population) have lived under occupation and siege all of their lives. They are beautiful, resilient, curious and full of potential. They deserve the basics that all children in the world should have. Food, clean water, healthcare, safe places to play and learn. They deserve the tools to deal with their nightmares, and sleep that is not punctuated by bombing. They deserve life, freedom, and hope.

    - Rachel's mom.
    Cindy Corrie.

    bump for the children of Gaza.

    i'll never stop fighting for them.

    not until it ends.