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The Juggler

The Fixer wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

no idea if this is true, but I just got a text that there is a 5 PM news conf. and Lurie apparently met with gruden today :thumbdown:

if you think reid's drafts are bad take a look at grudens from his time in oakland and tampa. he took over dungy's tampa team and won it all. then proceeded to wins zero playoff games after that.

If they are going to replace reid I sure as hell hope it's not with gruden.

someone told me last week he met with cowher. it's all nonsense at this point dude.

I figured it's probably 610 nonsense.

I'm fine with replacing reid if they have someone that I think will do a better job. I just don't think that person is someone that's been rumored (or desired by the fans)

reid isn't going anywhere. someone told me he has a "no fire clause."

lukin2006

Don't know if this is true...but read somewhere that no coach who has won a super bowl has ever went onto to win a super bowl with another team...both Cowher and Gruden have won a SB.

The Juggler

lukin2006 wrote:

Don't know if this is true...but read somewhere that no coach who has won a super bowl has ever went onto to win a super bowl with another team...both Cowher and Gruden have won a SB.

i believe that is true. doesn't mean it can never happen though.

lukin2006

The Juggler wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

Don't know if this is true...but read somewhere that no coach who has won a super bowl has ever went onto to win a super bowl with another team...both Cowher and Gruden have won a SB.

i believe that is true. doesn't mean it can never happen though.

I agree...I know everyone is in love with Cowher...but how much is it with the coach or Pittsburgh's system, they've only had three coach's in over 30 years and a good many of those teams are competitive...they must have one heck of a scouting system, and of course Dick LeBeau helps...jusy sayin'. It took Cowher 15 years to win an SB. That's the thing about the NFL so many teams keep bringing back coach's...why not look for the next Sean Payton?

lukin2006

Probably no point talking this up anyways...Andy Reid can't be fired...right?

SatansFuton

lukin2006 wrote:

Probably no point talking this up anyways...Andy Reid can't be fired...right?

I wouldn't mess with a guy who was this big of a beast at 13...

The Juggler

lukin2006 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

Don't know if this is true...but read somewhere that no coach who has won a super bowl has ever went onto to win a super bowl with another team...both Cowher and Gruden have won a SB.

i believe that is true. doesn't mean it can never happen though.

I agree...I know everyone is in love with Cowher...but how much is it with the coach or Pittsburgh's system, they've only had three coach's in over 30 years and a good many of those teams are competitive...they must have one heck of a scouting system, and of course Dick LeBeau helps...jusy sayin'. It took Cowher 15 years to win an SB. That's the thing about the NFL so many teams keep bringing back coach's...why not look for the next Sean Payton?

i don't really want cowher. and like fix said gruden did nothing for 4 years or so after he won the super bowl with dungy's team. you'd have to bring in a gm who knows what he's doing if they hire gruden.

if they go the retread route, give me billick. he set records as o coordinator in minny then won with defense in baltimore. but i see lurie and banner as guys who want to, like you said, find the next sean payton. i mentioned a bunch of obscure names a few pages back. i kinda think that's the route they go if they cut the fat man loose.

jamminpearls

Winston Moss

The Juggler

juan castillo = one of the worst mistakes in franchise history:

http://www.csnphilly.com/football-phila ... feedID=692


Part of the reason, I believe, is they have no respect for the coaches. They realized from Day One that Juan Castillo was miscast as a defensive coordinator. They never had an ounce of confidence in his game plans. All the rah-rah stuff at training camp with Juan running around and slapping guys on the back was good for the TV cameras, but it meant nothing on game day when he had to put on a headset and, you know, actually coach.

Right from the beginning you saw it – late substitutions, players looking to the bench and asking what to do, wasted time outs because the personnel was wrong, obvious adjustments that needed to be made but weren’t – and whenever the camera cut to a shot of Castillo, he looked bewildered.

It does not excuse the players for quitting on him – which they clearly have – but it does speak to the overall breakdown. To be a good defense, you have to be aggressive and to be aggressive, you must have confidence in what you are being asked to do. That was one reason why Jim Johnson was so successful. The players believed everything Johnson said because they had total trust in him. When he called a blitz, they played it to the max because they believed it would work.

g under p

What has happened to THIS team this year, I still think the Falcons will be a factor in the NFC This year. I still think Andy Reed should come back for one year maybe a different defensive coordinator. It takes time for a team such as this to come together.

Peace

JK_Livin

crazypjfan wrote:

At least the Cowboys can get W's against shitty teams. The Eagles...well...i guess they are a shitty team but to lose like that to the Seahawks....I have no words and I'm starting to feel bad busting on you guys...I'll stop before the Cowboys end of losing to the Cards on Sunday, then I'll eat my words

Bong!!

JK_Livin

I was actually in Pat Croce's bar in Key West to watch the latest masterpiece v. the Seahawks. I'm starting to understand the philosophy, Shady for 15yds then 3 straight passes for a 3 and out. Maybe if they keep Shady's stats down they can resign him for less money. That is the only reason I can think of for them not giving him the ball more. I can't remember the last time I disliked an Eagles team. Poor poor effort all around.

cowboypjfan

JK_Livin wrote:

crazypjfan wrote:

At least the Cowboys can get W's against shitty teams. The Eagles...well...i guess they are a shitty team but to lose like that to the Seahawks....I have no words and I'm starting to feel bad busting on you guys...I'll stop before the Cowboys end of losing to the Cards on Sunday, then I'll eat my words

Bong!!

The Juggler

JK_Livin wrote:

I was actually in Pat Croce's bar in Key West to watch the latest masterpiece v. the Seahawks. I'm starting to understand the philosophy, Shady for 15yds then 3 straight passes for a 3 and out. Maybe if they keep Shady's stats down they can resign him for less money. That is the only reason I can think of for them not giving him the ball more. I can't remember the last time I disliked an Eagles team. Poor poor effort all around.

it's either that or stupidity. either way it sucks.

how was croce's bar? i saw a few of them were featured on that "drinking made easy" show on hdnet recently.

JK_Livin

The Juggler wrote:

JK_Livin wrote:

I was actually in Pat Croce's bar in Key West to watch the latest masterpiece v. the Seahawks. I'm starting to understand the philosophy, Shady for 15yds then 3 straight passes for a 3 and out. Maybe if they keep Shady's stats down they can resign him for less money. That is the only reason I can think of for them not giving him the ball more. I can't remember the last time I disliked an Eagles team. Poor poor effort all around.

it's either that or stupidity. either way it sucks.

how was croce's bar? i saw a few of them were featured on that "drinking made easy" show on hdnet recently.

The Rum Barrel is nice but we didn't eat there because we heard the food was bad and over priced but it's Key West so everything is over priced. Island dogs was a better hangout in my opinion. He just bought into the Green Parrot, just booze no food, which is a really cool old school Key West bar.

Jearlpam0925

JK_Livin wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

JK_Livin wrote:

I was actually in Pat Croce's bar in Key West to watch the latest masterpiece v. the Seahawks. I'm starting to understand the philosophy, Shady for 15yds then 3 straight passes for a 3 and out. Maybe if they keep Shady's stats down they can resign him for less money. That is the only reason I can think of for them not giving him the ball more. I can't remember the last time I disliked an Eagles team. Poor poor effort all around.

it's either that or stupidity. either way it sucks.

how was croce's bar? i saw a few of them were featured on that "drinking made easy" show on hdnet recently.

The Rum Barrel is nice but we didn't eat there because we heard the food was bad and over priced but it's Key West so everything is over priced. Island dogs was a better hangout in my opinion. He just bought into the Green Parrot, just booze no food, which is a really cool old school Key West bar.

Isn't that the place - and if it's not, isn't there a place - where it's a bar/restaurant that you eat and then smash all the tableware afterward? I'm probably making that up.

The Fixer

The Juggler wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

someone told me last week he met with cowher. it's all nonsense at this point dude.

I figured it's probably 610 nonsense.

I'm fine with replacing reid if they have someone that I think will do a better job. I just don't think that person is someone that's been rumored (or desired by the fans)

reid isn't going anywhere. someone told me he has a "no fire clause."

just posting what I read. Reid has an agreement with banner and lurie that he will not be fired when his time is up. he will step down or it will be spun in a way where it's not a firing

not sure why that's so hard to believe. he obviously has a good rapport with ownership/management

The Fixer

The Juggler wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

I agree...I know everyone is in love with Cowher...but how much is it with the coach or Pittsburgh's system, they've only had three coach's in over 30 years and a good many of those teams are competitive...they must have one heck of a scouting system, and of course Dick LeBeau helps...jusy sayin'. It took Cowher 15 years to win an SB. That's the thing about the NFL so many teams keep bringing back coach's...why not look for the next Sean Payton?

i don't really want cowher. and like fix said gruden did nothing for 4 years or so after he won the super bowl with dungy's team. you'd have to bring in a gm who knows what he's doing if they hire gruden.

if they go the retread route, give me billick. he set records as o coordinator in minny then won with defense in baltimore. but i see lurie and banner as guys who want to, like you said, find the next sean payton. i mentioned a bunch of obscure names a few pages back. i kinda think that's the route they go if they cut the fat man loose.

I agree that I'd prefer billick to gruden or cowher. Billick had marv lewis running his defense though, and that was the reason billick has a ring.

the eagles need their defense built, so I don't think billick is the best option. better than most other names, but not ideal. I still think he's a downgrade from reid

JK_Livin

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/spo ... cNabb-NFL/

So sad.

Johnny Abruzzo

JK_Livin wrote:

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/sports-nfl/20111206/Kriegel-Donovan-McNabb-NFL/

So sad.

What's sad? He's set for life based on pure talent alone.

Sad for us maybe...