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edited January 2010 in A Moving Train
Could not believe this......People make some strange decisions these days. :?
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  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,727
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    It is a good debate isn't it?

    Stop the cruises from going there and the country loses $. Also they are delivering extra supplies. I'm torn.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    cincybearcat wrote:
    It is a good debate isn't it?

    Stop the cruises from going there and the country loses $. Also they are delivering extra supplies. I'm torn.
    ....
    I don't know... it's not like the Royal Carribean donated its services to deliver supplies.... it is on a scheduled cruise, with tourists on board. Those tourists aren't going to spend a dime onshore... most will probably never leave the ship... would you? I wouldn't.
    I think it was more of a scheduling issue and Royal Carribean is using the 'humanitarian' defense. It's not like there are no other ports in the Carribean Sea to dock for the onboard vacationers... unless those docks are occupied. I don't know.
    Anyway you look at it... it's bad press for the company... a luxury cruise ship (that are noted to be floating gluttonyfests) stopping in a place where the dead are loaded into dumpsters with skip loaders and hundreds of thousands haven't had anything to eat for days.
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  • Backspacer 76Backspacer 76 Posts: 963
    cincybearcat wrote:
    It is a good debate isn't it?

    Stop the cruises from going there and the country loses $. Also they are delivering extra supplies. I'm torn.
    Yes , exactly.....I see that the cruise ships are bringing money into the region and also delivering
    much needed supplies.

    Its like getting "a slap in the face and a helping hand at the same time"
    you know what I mean?

    We are going to flaunt our wealth in front of you poor people ....but also help you at the same time.
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Backspacer 76 wrote:

    Its like getting "a slap in the face and a helping hand at the same time"
    you know what I mean?

    We are going to flaunt our wealth in front of you poor people ....but also help you at the same time.


    yeah. they should just go to the Dominican Republic. F' the Haitians, right?
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  • mrveddersonmrvedderson Posts: 784
    whats the difference from all the media there, they are getting fed when those resources could be used for the survivers
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    mrvedderson wrote:
    whats the difference from all the media there, they are getting fed when those resources could be used for the survivers
    ...
    The difference is...
    The media is reporting to the rest of the world what is happening there via words and images...
    The Royal Caribbean is bringing tourists.
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Cosmo wrote:
    mrvedderson wrote:
    whats the difference from all the media there, they are getting fed when those resources could be used for the survivers
    ...
    The difference is...
    The media is reporting to the rest of the world what is happening there via words and images...
    The Royal Caribbean is bringing tourists.


    ...and their filthy money, which Haiti doesn't want or need?
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    mrvedderson wrote:
    whats the difference from all the media there, they are getting fed when those resources could be used for the survivers
    ...
    The difference is...
    The media is reporting to the rest of the world what is happening there via words and images...
    The Royal Caribbean is bringing tourists.


    ...and their filthy money, which Haiti doesn't want or need?



    i like to watch things die, from a good safe distance.



    they're making a spectacle out of a disaster, these people are being entertained at others misery, and the fact they bring a few thousand dollars does not excuse that bahavior.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Commy wrote:

    they're making a spectacle out of a disaster, these people are being entertained at others misery, and the fact they bring a few thousand dollars does not excuse that bahavior.

    The cruise ships are nowhere near the disaster. Where they stop is on a nice beach, by a nice lil' town which was not hit by the quake.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Commy wrote:

    they're making a spectacle out of a disaster, these people are being entertained at others misery, and the fact they bring a few thousand dollars does not excuse that bahavior.

    c'mon, dramatic much? you are acting like the ship is pulling into a town where bodies are lined up... If the people on the ship were told that they were in the DR, they wouldn't know the difference, no one is "being entertained at others misery".
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Cosmo wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    It is a good debate isn't it?

    Stop the cruises from going there and the country loses $. Also they are delivering extra supplies. I'm torn.
    ....
    I don't know... it's not like the Royal Carribean donated its services to deliver supplies.... it is on a scheduled cruise, with tourists on board. Those tourists aren't going to spend a dime onshore... most will probably never leave the ship... would you? I wouldn't.
    I think it was more of a scheduling issue and Royal Carribean is using the 'humanitarian' defense. It's not like there are no other ports in the Carribean Sea to dock for the onboard vacationers... unless those docks are occupied. I don't know.
    Anyway you look at it... it's bad press for the company... a luxury cruise ship (that are noted to be floating gluttonyfests) stopping in a place where the dead are loaded into dumpsters with skip loaders and hundreds of thousands haven't had anything to eat for days.


    i doubt many that would go on these 'floating gluttonyfests' would be bothered by it
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I'm still resting on my dangerously speculative, based on nothing other than conjecture view that it was a scheduling problem. The ship was scheduled to dock as Port Au Prince and there may have been no other ports with docking and/or hotel accomodations available. And to cancel the cruise would have meant a refund to all of the tourists. I am purely guessing that the execs at Royal Caribbean Cruise lines figured, it would be fiscally sound to make the trip to avoid the loss, not taking into consideration the bad press they might (and have) received.
    But, seriously... what do I know?
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    i doubt many that would go on these 'floating gluttonyfests' would be bothered by it
    ...
    Yeah... 'Floating Gluttonyfest'... they are playing night 2 at Coachella.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    Pepe Silvia wrote:


    i doubt many that would go on these 'floating gluttonyfests' would be bothered by it


    You are kidding right? Not everyone just eats on a cruise ship, and it's an affordable vacation for many.
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Pepe Silvia wrote:


    i doubt many that would go on these 'floating gluttonyfests' would be bothered by it


    You are kidding right? Not everyone just eats on a cruise ship, and it's an affordable vacation for many.


    don't try logic. it doesn't work with many of them.

    the world is black and white to them. good and evil.
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  • whatsgoingonwhatsgoingon Posts: 62
    Cosmo wrote:
    Those tourists aren't going to spend a dime onshore... most will probably never leave the ship... would you? I wouldn't.

    Having been to this destination more then once with Royal Caribbean they own this Island you can read all about it HERE. Pretty much everybody will get off the boat as this destination because 1 you are right at the beach and don't have to pay a cab fair or some rip excursion to get their. 2 they don't have a normal lunch that day there is a huge BBQ style lunch provided on the island ( which always makes me poo...HARD) Here you can use your on-board CC card thing to buy drinks things and all the employees are local to that area so they definitively wanted to work. SO yeah I see NOTHING wrong with this at all.

    Articles like this are why I hate everybody!

    I did find it funny when I went to RC site the first thing that came up in a big Flash banner was this thing about Humanitarian Aide for Haiti and link HERE
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    I dont think there is anything wrong with it. The world cant stop just because bad things happen. Move forward.
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  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    whatsgoingon wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Those tourists aren't going to spend a dime onshore... most will probably never leave the ship... would you? I wouldn't.

    Having been to this destination more then once with Royal Caribbean they own this Island you can read all about it HERE. Pretty much everybody will get off the boat as this destination because 1 you are right at the beach and don't have to pay a cab fair or some rip excursion to get their. 2 they don't have a normal lunch that day there is a huge BBQ style lunch provided on the island ( which always makes me poo...HARD) Here you can use your on-board CC card thing to buy drinks things and all the employees are local to that area so they definitively wanted to work. SO yeah I see NOTHING wrong with this at all.

    Articles like this are why I hate everybody!

    I did find it funny when I went to RC site the first thing that came up in a big Flash banner was this thing about Humanitarian Aide for Haiti and link HERE


    One thing that is a bit misleading is that since RC owns the beach they avoid many of the fees that come along with docking ships in a port.... that is why cruise companies started buying beaches and whole islands and shit, they keep more of the money for themselves that way.

    there is an interesting documentary thing that comes on CNBC or MSNBC or something like that which talks about the cruise industry and how their fiances work...very interesting, they went out with a ship and calculated all the money that went in and went out and once it returned it barely broke even
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    redrock wrote:
    Commy wrote:

    they're making a spectacle out of a disaster, these people are being entertained at others misery, and the fact they bring a few thousand dollars does not excuse that bahavior.

    The cruise ships are nowhere near the disaster. Where they stop is on a nice beach, by a nice lil' town which was not hit by the quake.
    right.


    who are we to suspend a vacation in the face of tens of thousands of deaths. not even suspend the vacation, take fucking detour, the island is going through something right now.
  • Heatherj43Heatherj43 Posts: 1,254
    The ship goes to a "resort" that was created by the ship company. Its fake. They could be anywhere on earth for all they know. Its a fake area made just for them.
    I did hear that some people cancelled their trip. They said things like, "they can't enjoy a meal there while others are dying nearby", "they just can't enjoy themselves".
    I say bravo to those people. Of course the ship comany sent stuff as aid along with them. They'd be lots more outrage if they hadn't.
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