IS Rudy Giuliani Wrong in Saying *No Attacks Under Bush?*

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Rudy Giuliani Wrong in Saying ‘No Domestic Attacks Under Bush'
“What he [Obama] should be doing is following the right things that Bush did -- one of the right things he did was treat this as a war on terror. We had no domestic attacks under Bush. We’ve had one under Obama,” Giuliani said. “Number two, he should correct the things that Bush didn’t do right. Sending people to Yemen was wrong, not getting this whole intelligence thing corrected.”

I can't believe he can say something like this when the President came out and took sole responsibility for the attack on Christmas. I actually have to commend him for doing that, not many Presidents are willing to say that.

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  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    No. Bush had 9/11. It was a pretty big attack.
  • mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
    Is Giuliani wrong? Damn right he's wrong, dead wrong.
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

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  • StarfallStarfall Posts: 548
    Poor guy. He went from being "America's Mayor" to just another irrelevant buffoon.

    I have to say though, that whole revisionist history being cited by Republicans about how everything is now Obama's fault is, well, to quote a certain Queen, "We are not amused">
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  • AC69458AC69458 Posts: 13
    yeah I think 911 was under Bush. And he just sat there with a dumb look on his face while it was happening. Maybe he was worried that everyone would know that it was really his operation?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    he is trying to re-write history, which is rule number one if you are seeking higher office and the opposing party is in power....
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    What a fucking tool.
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    Guiliani oughtta know there was an attack during Bush's presidency. He was fucking mayor of one of the cities attacked. This is the typical kiss-ass republican attitude that is the problem with this country. In 30 years, Republicans will be praising Bush as a martyr and one of the best president's, just like they did Reagan. And I don't consider Christmas day an "attack". No one died, nothing blew up. It could have been really bad, yes, but it wasn't. No excuse for the oversights by the TSA but I actually applaud Obama for taking the blame instead of pointing fingers.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Guiliani oughtta know there was an attack during Bush's presidency. He was fucking mayor of one of the cities attacked. This is the typical kiss-ass republican attitude that is the problem with this country. In 30 years, Republicans will be praising Bush as a martyr and one of the best president's, just like they did Reagan. And I don't consider Christmas day an "attack". No one died, nothing blew up. It could have been really bad, yes, but it wasn't. No excuse for the oversights by the TSA but I actually applaud Obama for taking the blame instead of pointing fingers.

    Does anybody see a pointed plan by Republicans to shift any past blame of domestic attacks during the Bush era? Then make sure of any attacks including the Fort Hood incident on Obama's watch is noted to show as his incompetent administration in which he cannot keep us safe. It seems the moment ANY major incident that may come will be cause to bring down this President even though are only major incident occurred under Bush.

    They're some who believe Bush kept us safe during his ENTIRE presidency only his incompetent decisions has brought about the election of President Obama.

    peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Guiliani oughtta know there was an attack during Bush's presidency. He was fucking mayor of one of the cities attacked. This is the typical kiss-ass republican attitude that is the problem with this country. In 30 years, Republicans will be praising Bush as a martyr and one of the best president's, just like they did Reagan. And I don't consider Christmas day an "attack". No one died, nothing blew up. It could have been really bad, yes, but it wasn't. No excuse for the oversights by the TSA but I actually applaud Obama for taking the blame instead of pointing fingers.

    i agree. the only thing that blew up in this situation was the guy's nutsack...
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    g under p wrote:
    Guiliani oughtta know there was an attack during Bush's presidency. He was fucking mayor of one of the cities attacked. This is the typical kiss-ass republican attitude that is the problem with this country. In 30 years, Republicans will be praising Bush as a martyr and one of the best president's, just like they did Reagan. And I don't consider Christmas day an "attack". No one died, nothing blew up. It could have been really bad, yes, but it wasn't. No excuse for the oversights by the TSA but I actually applaud Obama for taking the blame instead of pointing fingers.

    Does anybody see a pointed plan by Republicans to shift any past blame of domestic attacks during the Bush era? Then make sure of any attacks including the Fort Hood incident on Obama's watch is noted to show as his incompetent administration in which he cannot keep us safe. It seems the moment ANY major incident that may come will be cause to bring down this President even though are only major incident occurred under Bush.

    They're some who believe Bush kept us safe during his ENTIRE presidency only his incompetent decisions has brought about the election of President Obama.

    peace

    In regards to Ft. Hood, this could have happened at any time. Is Obama's administration responsible to keep one member of the military from committing a heinous crime? I don't think this could have been prevented. It's not like an Al Quaeda member walked onto a military base and did this. This was a soldier who was given access to the base because at the time he was serving our country. There was no breach of security or anything. That's like saying the Columbine incident was the result of the incompetence of the Clinton administration. Honestly, there was nothing that could have been done to stop it by the president's administration. Stuff like the Ft. Hood and Columbine has to be prevented locally.
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  • IS Rudy Giuliani Wrong in Saying *No Attacks Under Bush?*

    Yes, but then again Giuliani is pretty much wrong everytime he opens his mouth...
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  • What a fucking tool.
    something like that...
  • the shoe bomber as well! If anybody has watched the Daily Show this week they had some great segments about this.
  • Look up footage of Giuliani on Sept. 11 speaking by phone with one of the major News networks: He said that he was inside one of buildings when someone called and told him that the building would be coming down. So he left and got away without a scratch.

    In the years since, family members of victims have been filmed asking Rudy who called him and how the caller knew the building would fall. RG clams up, ceases eye contact, and walks away.
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  • he is trying to re-write history, which is rule number one if you are seeking higher office and the opposing party is in power....
    yeh, it's not like they haven't done THAT before! Perhaps that's why Bush allowed Clinton show up to ground zero first... people will remember Clinton being there and two and two will make six and they'll remember Clinton was in charge that day.
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  • It is another attempt at revisionist history by the republicans, just like claiming Reagan was a good president. Dana
    Perino started it
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    yogibare wrote:
    It is another attempt at revisionist history by the republicans, just like claiming Reagan was a good president. Dana
    Perino started it



    history is written by teh victors.
  • I dont get why people latched onto Guiliani as some kind of hero at all. I mean, the guy was horrible pre-9/11. The whole "ridding the streets of homeless people" and the whole "getting tough on art shops that sell offensive works" should have been a red flag.

    Of all the heroes on 9/11, on that day, why was Guiliani hoisted up as some kind of saint? Certainly their were hundreds, or thousands of people, firefighters, police, regular people who deserved more credit than Guiliani.

    The man is sick. What he has done, or rather not done for those who inhaled the dust, the fireworkers and policemen he told to not put on gas masks.

    Its funny, hes a perfect example of why the media's representation of what makes a hero is total bunk. Guiliani never meant squat to me. He was a hardliner on issues, a jerk, and what he did on 9/11 really is kind of meaningless. Make a few speeches? Wow. What about all those people I mentioned above, who actually went in the towers, as Uncle Bruce said "Into the Fire". They saw the planes hit, they stopped what they were doing, and ran to the towers, and ran UP the stairs to help people. Guiliani meant squat to me then, and on 9/11, and now, things havent changed.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    I actually applaud Obama for taking the blame instead of pointing fingers.


    I think he is doing that only so he doesn't have to fire someone.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    i'm not so sure i would trust anyone who looks like the vampire nosferatu....

    2_61_giuliani_rudy.jpg

    Nosferatu2.jpg
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