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stateoflove79stateoflove79 Posts: 2,845
edited January 2010 in Other Music
Is anyone here really into them? I like them, but I never really dove into their catalog. I used to have some cd's and I currently have about 12 live shows, but I was wondering if anyone else here liked them. I am thinking about getting some more of their stuff, b/c I really enjoy their grooves and such. Are the studio albums even worth getting or are they nothing compared to their live stuff?
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  • PJFAN_seattlePJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    haha My dad loves em he used to follow them around the country, even took me to their show when i was little but i just cant get into them. My dad owns a bunch of live shows and all the albums apparently theyre worth getting
    Shows:
    Seattle Key Arena 9-21-2009
    Seattle Key Arena 9-22-2009
  • agfyagfy Posts: 133
    THE DEAD ROCK!!! :P :P
    " I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
  • Evacuation RulesEvacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    The most boring music imaginable. I will never understand. It must be the drugs.
  • CobCob Posts: 858
    So them 169 times so yes I like them, if you want to listen to good live stuff by them for free, try this site, click on the "stream only" show, you can only stream them, but the sound quality is REAL good.

    http://www.archive.org/details/GratefulDead
    [img][/img]9/5/92, 11/20/93, 3/14,15/94, 9/16/95, 10/14,15/2000
    4/5,6/9/2003, 9/1/05, 12/7/2005, 7/15,16,18/2006, 8/5/2007
    6/24,25/08,6/27/08,6/28/08,6/30/08
    9/21,22/2009, 10/4/2009
    5/6,7,9/2010, 9/3/2011 9/4/2011, 11/15/2013,
    11/16/2013, 12/8/2013, 10/5/2014, 10/12/2014,
    4/23, 5/10, 5/12, 8/20, 8/22 2016,
    8/8, 8/10, 8/18, 8/20 2018, 5/12, 5/13, 9/20 2022



  • LloydXmasLloydXmas Posts: 7,539
    I love them. Jerry died when I was 15 so I never got a chance to see them live. I really enjoy the mid to late 70s (with Donna) and the late 80s early 90s.

    Winterland 79 is amazing I recommend it highly.
  • gleemonexgleemonex Posts: 848
    I'm a fan of late 60s, early 70s Grateful Dead. American Beauty is a damn fine album (studio recording).

    Archive.org can really help you find good Dead music. If there's a song you like, you can search it up and listen to shows where they played that song. There's lists of the most popular and best recordings.

    Some songs I recommend checking out:
    Box of Rain
    They Love Each Other
    China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider (They played these back-to-back often)
    Casey Jones
    Scarlet Begonias -> Fire on the Mountain (same deal as above)
    Sugar Magnolia

    My favourite concerts to listen to are 5/8/1977 Ithaca, NY http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-0 ... s.266.shnf and 5/26/1973 San Francisco, CA http://www.archive.org/details/gd1973-0 ... 535.flac16
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  • weekapaug19weekapaug19 Posts: 2,293
    what do you need to know?

    and go see Furthur, it's the closest thing to seeing the actual Dead that you can get, the guitar played for Dark Star Orchestra is playing Jerry's spot, and is dead on
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    ONE OF THE BEST BAND EVER
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • merkinballmerkinball Posts: 2,262
    Love the Dead.

    I'd recommend American Beauty & Workingman's Dead as places to start. Probably their best/tightest two studio albums. Other studio albums I'd put up on the list are;

    From the Mars Hotel
    Blues for Allah
    Aoxomoxoa

    As Gleemonex states above, any show with a Scarlet Begionias --> Fire On the Mountain or China Cat Sunflower --> I Know You Rider is worth listening to.

    Live albums well worth checking out:

    Without A Net (worth it for Branford Marsalis guesting on Eyes of the World, or just stream the show here: http://www.archive.org/details/gd90-03- ... sbeok.shnf )
    Bears Choice (Great version of Smokestack Lightning)
    Reckoning - 2 disc acoustic set. The dead weren't all about extended jams.

    Check out some of Jerrys side project too. Old & In the Way is a bluegrass band he was in, and his solo (live) albums are great. Only the self titled (garcia) album is a must have.
    "You're no help," he told the lime. This was unfair. It was only a lime; there was nothing special about it at all. It was doing the best it could.

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  • stateoflove79stateoflove79 Posts: 2,845
    merkinball wrote:
    Love the Dead.

    I'd recommend American Beauty & Workingman's Dead as places to start. Probably their best/tightest two studio albums. Other studio albums I'd put up on the list are;

    From the Mars Hotel
    Blues for Allah
    Aoxomoxoa

    As Gleemonex states above, any show with a Scarlet Begionias --> Fire On the Mountain or China Cat Sunflower --> I Know You Rider is worth listening to.

    Live albums well worth checking out:

    Without A Net (worth it for Branford Marsalis guesting on Eyes of the World, or just stream the show here: http://www.archive.org/details/gd90-03- ... sbeok.shnf )
    Bears Choice (Great version of Smokestack Lightning)
    Reckoning - 2 disc acoustic set. The dead weren't all about extended jams.

    Check out some of Jerrys side project too. Old & In the Way is a bluegrass band he was in, and his solo (live) albums are great. Only the self titled (garcia) album is a must have.

    What about the "Dick's Picks" series....are they any good?
    Is it so wrong to think that love can keep us safe?
  • weekapaug19weekapaug19 Posts: 2,293
    stateoflove79 wrote:
    merkinball wrote:
    Love the Dead.

    I'd recommend American Beauty & Workingman's Dead as places to start. Probably their best/tightest two studio albums. Other studio albums I'd put up on the list are;

    From the Mars Hotel
    Blues for Allah
    Aoxomoxoa

    As Gleemonex states above, any show with a Scarlet Begionias --> Fire On the Mountain or China Cat Sunflower --> I Know You Rider is worth listening to.

    Live albums well worth checking out:

    Without A Net (worth it for Branford Marsalis guesting on Eyes of the World, or just stream the show here: http://www.archive.org/details/gd90-03- ... sbeok.shnf )
    Bears Choice (Great version of Smokestack Lightning)
    Reckoning - 2 disc acoustic set. The dead weren't all about extended jams.

    Check out some of Jerrys side project too. Old & In the Way is a bluegrass band he was in, and his solo (live) albums are great. Only the self titled (garcia) album is a must have.

    What about the "Dick's Picks" series....are they any good?

    the new on the road series (i think that is the exact name) seem to have a better quality to them, but ya, any dicks picks will be good

    a couple posts above nails it on the head...eyes of the world with branford marsalis..listen asap
  • merkinballmerkinball Posts: 2,262
    Dicks Picks are a great series, but it's helpful to know the era/lineup you prefer before getting too deep into the live releases. Me, I much prefer the 70-72 Pigpen years, and the Brent Mydland lineup (early-late 80's). I have a hard time getting into the mid 70's stuff, Donna and Keith were a bit too much for me. If my first introduction to the Dead was a mid 70's version of Dancing in the Streets or Playing in the Band (with Donna wailing), I'd have stopped listening then and there.

    If you've got a surround sound system, check out the American Beauty Dualdisc:

    http://www.amazon.com/American-Beauty-G ... 146&sr=8-1

    The surround mix on this is absolutely amazing.
    "You're no help," he told the lime. This was unfair. It was only a lime; there was nothing special about it at all. It was doing the best it could.

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  • stateoflove79stateoflove79 Posts: 2,845
    merkinball wrote:
    Dicks Picks are a great series, but it's helpful to know the era/lineup you prefer before getting too deep into the live releases. Me, I much prefer the 70-72 Pigpen years, and the Brent Mydland lineup (early-late 80's). I have a hard time getting into the mid 70's stuff, Donna and Keith were a bit too much for me. If my first introduction to the Dead was a mid 70's version of Dancing in the Streets or Playing in the Band (with Donna wailing), I'd have stopped listening then and there.

    If you've got a surround sound system, check out the American Beauty Dualdisc:

    http://www.amazon.com/American-Beauty-G ... 146&sr=8-1

    The surround mix on this is absolutely amazing.

    Thanks for your input...

    How do you feel about the official live albums such as Hundred Year Hall, and View from the Vault, etc etc?
    Is it so wrong to think that love can keep us safe?
  • weekapaug19weekapaug19 Posts: 2,293
    i like hundred year hall, haven't listened to that in probably 10 years...time to go dig it out this weekend
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    I used to listen to them very hardcore. Had about 300 live shows on tape. (tape, the thing that comes in a cassette used often in the 80's and 90's).

    Not so much anymore.
    ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you. :)
    *NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
    *EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
    *Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,494
    Start with Europe 72
    just set the ipod to repeat all

    then call me when you are thirsty for more
  • drew0drew0 Posts: 943
    Huge fan, probably one of my favorite bands. I listen to them probably more than any other band. So many magical moments... Sadly, I've only ever been able to see offshoots (RatDog and Phil & Friends).
    Pittsburgh 6/23/06
    Madison Square Garden 6/25/08
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  • fotdfotd Posts: 514
    stateoflove79 wrote:
    merkinball wrote:
    Dicks Picks are a great series, but it's helpful to know the era/lineup you prefer before getting too deep into the live releases. Me, I much prefer the 70-72 Pigpen years, and the Brent Mydland lineup (early-late 80's). I have a hard time getting into the mid 70's stuff, Donna and Keith were a bit too much for me. If my first introduction to the Dead was a mid 70's version of Dancing in the Streets or Playing in the Band (with Donna wailing), I'd have stopped listening then and there.

    If you've got a surround sound system, check out the American Beauty Dualdisc:

    http://www.amazon.com/American-Beauty-G ... 146&sr=8-1

    The surround mix on this is absolutely amazing.

    Thanks for your input...

    How do you feel about the official live albums such as Hundred Year Hall, and View from the Vault, etc etc?

    I really dig the Hundred Year Hall show. I haven't listened to that show in 5+ years since driving up highway 1 to see my then girlfriend. Listened to lots of great Dead shows on that drive from OC to SLO.

    I would recommend you get these studio albums: American Beauty, Workingman's Dead, Terrapin Station, the original mix of Aoxoamoaxoa (search for it on demonoid), Anthems of the Sun
    Live albums: Live/Dead, Without A Net, and if you can still find it Steppin' Out with the Dead

    My favorite dead eras are the Pigpen years and the Brent years. Man in the mid 80's to the end when Jerry embraced technology and had all those midi samples for his guitar produced some of the sweetest bird songs ever.
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  • merkinballmerkinball Posts: 2,262
    fotd wrote:

    I really dig the Hundred Year Hall show. I haven't listened to that show in 5+ years since driving up highway 1 to see my then girlfriend. Listened to lots of great Dead shows on that drive from OC to SLO.

    I would recommend you get these studio albums: American Beauty, Workingman's Dead, Terrapin Station, the original mix of Aoxoamoaxoa (search for it on demonoid), Anthems of the Sun
    Live albums: Live/Dead, Without A Net, and if you can still find it Steppin' Out with the Dead

    My favorite dead eras are the Pigpen years and the Brent years. Man in the mid 80's to the end when Jerry embraced technology and had all those midi samples for his guitar produced some of the sweetest bird songs ever.

    I hadn't heard of the Aoxomaxoa alternate before? Is this the one you are talking about? (downloading it now). Can't have enough versions of Mountains of the Moon.

    Aoxomoxoa Studio Sessions Outtakes 1969

    Sandy Troy's TC366 3.75ips Reel->DAT2->CDR

    01 Saint Stephen>
    02 The Eleven #
    03 The Barbed Wire Whipping Party *
    04 Doing That Rag #1 &
    05 Duprees Diamond Blues %
    06 -unknown instrumental-

    08 Cozmic Charlie
    09 Doing That Rag #2 !
    10 Mountains Of The Moon ^
    11 Whats Become Of The Baby? $

    Alan Bershaw's A1040SL 7.5ips Reel->DAT->CDR

    12. Rosemary
    13. Mountains Of The Moon
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  • fotdfotd Posts: 514
    merkinball wrote:
    fotd wrote:
    I hadn't heard of the Aoxomaxoa alternate before? Is this the one you are talking about? (downloading it now). Can't have enough versions of Mountains of the Moon.

    Aoxomoxoa Studio Sessions Outtakes 1969

    Sandy Troy's TC366 3.75ips Reel->DAT2->CDR

    01 Saint Stephen>
    02 The Eleven #
    03 The Barbed Wire Whipping Party *
    04 Doing That Rag #1 &
    05 Duprees Diamond Blues %
    06 -unknown instrumental-

    08 Cozmic Charlie
    09 Doing That Rag #2 !
    10 Mountains Of The Moon ^
    11 Whats Become Of The Baby? $

    Alan Bershaw's A1040SL 7.5ips Reel->DAT->CDR

    12. Rosemary
    13. Mountains Of The Moon

    I'm gonna check that out. But those are the out takes. I googled this:
    http://gratefulbreed.blogspot.com/2007/ ... ginal.html
    Grateful Dead
    9-68 to 3-69
    Pacific Recording Studios - San Mateo, CA

    This is the original mix of Aoxomoxoa, which was released commercially between June 1969 and late 1971. In September, 1971, Jerry Garcia did a major remix of the entire album, eliminating a considerable amount of the backing material and trimming the beginning and end of a few songs. The LPs, cassettes, and CDs available commercially since that time contain the remix. There appear to be no plans to commercially release this original mix, so it is being made available to the broader community.

    to sustain the ethical integrity of this process, please do not download this archive unless you are already in possession of a commercial release of Grateful Dead's "Aoxomoxoa" and woul dlike to compare it with the original mix.

    The LP copy from which this was derived is in VG condition, and the analog equipment used to extract the sound from the grooves is near state of the art. There is some minor surface noise audible in the quietest passages, but not obtrusive even then, and almost no tracking distortion.

    Track Listings
    1. St Stephen (4:26)
    2. Dupree's Diamond Blues (3:40)
    3. Rosemary (2:04)
    4. Doin' That Rag (5:14)
    5. Mountains of the Moon (4:11)
    6. China Cat Sunflower (4:16)
    7. What's Become of the Baby (8:27)
    8. Cosmic Charlie (5:40)

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    PS Audio PCA-2 preamplifier, M Audio Audiophile USB external, A/C powered sound card


    There will be two download links. The second one works. I'm using it to upgrade my copy. I must have gotten it from the pre-torrent days. I knew I made my copy in iTunes from a CD I made but can no longer find. This is a 320 mp3 version.
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    i always liked that fillmore east show, forgot what year but it came out in the late 90's and had a wolf in a robe on the cover. dark star to st stephen to the eleven is phenomenal on that!

    edit i found it

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_th ... st_2-11-69
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  • CobCob Posts: 858
    If you want to start with some Europe 72, take a listen to this show!!!!

    http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-05- ... sbeok.shnf
    [img][/img]9/5/92, 11/20/93, 3/14,15/94, 9/16/95, 10/14,15/2000
    4/5,6/9/2003, 9/1/05, 12/7/2005, 7/15,16,18/2006, 8/5/2007
    6/24,25/08,6/27/08,6/28/08,6/30/08
    9/21,22/2009, 10/4/2009
    5/6,7,9/2010, 9/3/2011 9/4/2011, 11/15/2013,
    11/16/2013, 12/8/2013, 10/5/2014, 10/12/2014,
    4/23, 5/10, 5/12, 8/20, 8/22 2016,
    8/8, 8/10, 8/18, 8/20 2018, 5/12, 5/13, 9/20 2022



  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,494
    Cob wrote:
    If you want to start with some Europe 72, take a listen to this show!!!!

    http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-05- ... sbeok.shnf

    now thats what Im talking about

    the early pigpen stuff is an acquired taste

    this is the grateful dead in their prime IMHO-Europe 72 is my desert island disc
    http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-0 ... eok.flac16

    germany
    another good one
  • weekapaug19weekapaug19 Posts: 2,293
    this is on sirius now...2/15/73. Tuned in during Brown eyed women and at bertha now....killer show

    Soundcheck: Jack Straw, Box of Rain

    Loose Lucy, Beat It On Down The Line, Brown Eyed Women, Mexicali Blues, Tennessee Jed, Looks Like Rain, Box Of Rain, Row Jimmy, Jack Straw, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Me & My Uncle, Bertha, Playin' In The Band, Casey Jones Here Comes Sunshine, El Paso, You Ain't Woman Enough, They Love Each Other, Big River, Dark Star-> Eyes Of The World-> China Doll, Promised Land, Sugaree, Sugar Magnolia, E: Uncle John's Band, E: One More Saturday Night
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