Obama's Broken Promise

WaveCameCrashin

This shows just how deceitful this man is.
http://www.breitbart.tv/the-c-span-lie- ... otiations/



Then you have this.
.http://www.breitbart.tv/press-corps-gri ... n-promise/

How anybody can even trust this man or this congress is beyond me.Do we exist just to be manipulated ?
We are a represenative republic where the represenatives reject the public.IMO our represenatives are trying to destroy our republic and substitute with something else.

Im sure there are some of you on here that have no problem with this or you'll just point to something that Bush did so you can make excuses for this.

brandon10

Oh my god?? A politician broke a campaign promise???? Tell me it isn't so.

He also has not taken us out of Guantanamo or Iraq. Both far worse in my opinion.

WaveCameCrashin

well ... that's your opinion. I don't think you understand how important the healthcare issue is to a lot of people.It's going to effect evryone including you.

dimitrispearljam

and more to come...

Cliffy6745

Maybe he would have if the right was willing to actually negotiate.

g under p

prfctlefts wrote:

This shows just how deceitful this man is.
http://www.breitbart.tv/the-c-span-lie- ... otiations/



Then you have this.
.http://www.breitbart.tv/press-corps-gri ... n-promise/

How anybody can even trust this man or this congress is beyond me.Do we exist just to be manipulated ?
We are a represenative republic where the represenatives reject the public.IMO our represenatives are trying to destroy our republic and substitute with something else.

Im sure there are some of you on here that have no problem with this or you'll just point to something that Bush did so you can make excuses for this.

What politician do you know who isn't deceitful as you say? There in the business of POLITRICKS it's just that you don't particularly like THAT ONE!

Peace

inmytree

prfctlefts wrote:

This shows just how deceitful this man is.
http://www.breitbart.tv/the-c-span-lie- ... otiations/



Then you have this.
.http://www.breitbart.tv/press-corps-gri ... n-promise/

How anybody can even trust this man or this congress is beyond me.Do we exist just to be manipulated ?
We are a represenative republic where the represenatives reject the public.IMO our represenatives are trying to destroy our republic and substitute with something else.

Im sure there are some of you on here that have no problem with this or you'll just point to something that Bush did so you can make excuses for this.

wow....this is terrible...

Starfall

LOL. For someone who likes to dismiss other sites as left wing partisan sites regardless of the truth, I'm surprised you picked a right wing hack like Andrew Breitbart - who by the way is continually wrong.

I mean seriously, not only was he proven wrong on the identity of a person visiting the White House as NOT being the head of ACORN, he had the temerity to place a bet... and lost again.

But to the substance of the argument - I'm not happy about Obama either. The guy for all practical purposes is governing like Bill Clinton and his Democratic Leadership Council - swing to the center, curry favor with big corporations, and tell your base to fuck off because they'll support you anyway no matter what.

(EDIT) For the record, most of the hearings on healthcare were already televised, and had the Republicans not insisted on obstructionism the entire way, we'd have a real conference committee, that might have been televised, instead of the procedural method the Democrats are doing to bypass more GOP bullshit. The Republicans essentially took themselves out of the process because of their constant filibusters and delays, so fuck them, I'm glad the Democrats are getting this bill passed, even though I don't like it.

Pepe Silvia

yes, and he also broke his promise on the first thing he'd do was bring our troops home from Iraq

and that if the white house ever met with any exec or lobbyist it would be broadcast on C-SPAN

and that he'd renegotiate NAFTA

and that we could import cheaper drugs from Canada

and so on and so on.

Pepe Silvia

brandon10 wrote:

Oh my god?? A politician broke a campaign promise???? Tell me it isn't so.

He also has not taken us out of Guantanamo or Iraq. Both far worse in my opinion.

so much for change we can believe in, eh?

Anon

brandon10 wrote:

Oh my god?? A politician broke a campaign promise???? Tell me it isn't so.

He also has not taken us out of Guantanamo or Iraq. Both far worse in my opinion.

So since it is business as usual we are just supposed to accept it? When does it stop? It is time to get these liars and phonies out, not to keep electing them.

Cosmo

JB811 wrote:

brandon10 wrote:

Oh my god?? A politician broke a campaign promise???? Tell me it isn't so.

He also has not taken us out of Guantanamo or Iraq. Both far worse in my opinion.

So since it is business as usual we are just supposed to accept it? When does it stop? It is time to get these liars and phonies out, not to keep electing them.

...
So... are you saying that you are disappointed that these negotiations are not taking place out in the open? Are you feeling betrayed because you believed that these negotiations will be conducted the way Congress has been operating since the 1800s? Are you heartbroken because you believed these promises?
...
Part of the reason why they will be taken place behind closed doors is because Republicans don't want to be caught on tape compromising with the opposition... and I don't blame them. Scrutiny of their negotiations are no longer being examined by journalists... they are being scrutinized by the equivalent of TMZ style political pundits.
Republicans are acting the same way as Democrats were acting during the run up to the Iraq War. In 2003, it would have been political suicide to oppose the war... in 2010, the same holds true for the Health Care debate. you are right... they are wusses that want to keep their jobs and will do anything to hang on to their seats. You'd do the same... Cadillac health care for you and your family for life... great retirement benefits and the ability to vote for your own pay increases.

Commy

Pepe Silvia wrote:

yes, and he also broke his promise on the first thing he'd do was bring our troops home from Iraq

and that if the white house ever met with any exec or lobbyist it would be broadcast on C-SPAN

and that he'd renegotiate NAFTA

and that we could import cheaper drugs from Canada

and so on and so on.

typical washington tool




do you think it the position or the desire that gets them to conform?

blackredyellow

Pepe Silvia wrote:

yes, and he also broke his promise on the first thing he'd do was bring our troops home from Iraq

When exactly did he make that promise?

inmytree

blackredyellow wrote:

Pepe Silvia wrote:

yes, and he also broke his promise on the first thing he'd do was bring our troops home from Iraq

When exactly did he make that promise?

he never said this...

people want to hear what the what to hear...

MrMerkinball

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Maybe he would have if the right was willing to actually negotiate.

+1

Pepe Silvia

inmytree wrote:

blackredyellow wrote:

Pepe Silvia wrote:

yes, and he also broke his promise on the first thing he'd do was bring our troops home from Iraq

When exactly did he make that promise?

he never said this...

people want to hear what the what to hear...

oh, reeeeeeaaaaaaally??

i guess some people forget what is convenient for them to forget....

"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LsSppYxSHk

:roll:

which bank should i take this to???

WaveCameCrashin

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Maybe he would have if the right was willing to actually negotiate.

How can they when they are doing everything in secrecy behind closed and locked doors ?

Pepe Silvia

Commy wrote:

Pepe Silvia wrote:

yes, and he also broke his promise on the first thing he'd do was bring our troops home from Iraq

and that if the white house ever met with any exec or lobbyist it would be broadcast on C-SPAN

and that he'd renegotiate NAFTA

and that we could import cheaper drugs from Canada

and so on and so on.

typical washington tool




do you think it the position or the desire that gets them to conform?

personally i don't think he ever intended to do a lot of these things. i guess it is just a coincidence that an aide said before the elections that Obama never really intended to renegotiate NAFTA...

people like to blame the republicans. it's all their fault that Obama isn't getting the change he promised. what they are really saying is Obama was clueless about american politics, which i don't believe to be true. if it were really all the republicans fault why did Obama make all those promises? are they claiming he was under the impression the republicans would just give in and do whatever he wanted??? it was no secret they were against most of his policies!

also, take a look at the clip i posted earlier where he promised to bring the troops home...yet his website ALWAYS said most of the troops from Iraq would be redeployed to Afghanistan, so he always knew he wasn't going to follow through on this promise!!

he had a bad habit of talking to liberals and saying 1 thing then talking to conservatives and saying the opposite but most of the 'liberals' just didn't want to hear it. he told liberals he thought this was a stupid or dumb war then goes on conservative radio and says 1 of the main reason he was against Iraq was because we weren't finished in Afghanistan yet....but if he thought Iraq was a stupid war doesn't that make whether or not we were done in Afghanistan a moot point? it's like if someone said 'one of the main reasons i'm against molesting kids is because i have a girlfriend and get it pretty regular from her' most people would be like wtf, aren't you against it because it's wrong!?

he had no problem lying during the primaries, like when a girl at a townhall asked about nuclear power and he claimed to have passes such a strong nuclear bill and it was so tough....not only did his bill NEVER PASS but after receiving campaign donations from the nuclear power industry he kept rewriting the bill making it more industry friendly, not very tough at all.

he also had a bad habit of taking credit for bills he had no part in. some democrats even complained that Obama was nowhere to be found while they worked on the bill, he would only show up when the cameras were there and would go on about all the hard work put into it....

many, even many here, have no problem with this. lying on your resume is just a simple fact of life. broken and empty campaign promises are just accepted. but WHY?? would you accept if if your girlfriend or wife constantly lied to you and made empty promises? but for some reason when it comes to who runs our government we just accept they will lie constantly to our faces and console ourselves by saying 'gee, at least that other guy didn't win!'

so, why do we accept this? what other relationship would we allow this to continue??

Pepe Silvia

prfctlefts wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Maybe he would have if the right was willing to actually negotiate.

How can they when they are doing everything in secrecy behind closed and locked doors ?

apparently while Obama was making all these promises he was under the impression that the republicans would just roll over and do everything he asked.... :roll:

i like watching the video of Obama campaigning and criticizing the previous administration for its secrecy and closed door meetings and promised full transparency and "no more secrecy, NO MORE SECRECY!!!!" to a lot of applause.....it must be the republicans fault that he can't follow through on HIS promise that if HIS white house met with execs or lobbyists it would be broadcast on C-SPAN and their fault he hasn't gotten that website up and running detailing all the pork and who requested it....

WaveCameCrashin

Starfall wrote:

LOL. For someone who likes to dismiss other sites as left wing partisan sites regardless of the truth, I'm surprised you picked a right wing hack like Andrew Breitbart - who by the way is continually wrong.

I mean seriously, not only was he proven wrong on the identity of a person visiting the White House as NOT being the head of ACORN, he had the temerity to place a bet... and lost again.

But to the substance of the argument - I'm not happy about Obama either. The guy for all practical purposes is governing like Bill Clinton and his Democratic Leadership Council - swing to the center, curry favor with big corporations, and tell your base to fuck off because they'll support you anyway no matter what.

(EDIT) For the record, most of the hearings on healthcare were already televised, and had the Republicans not insisted on obstructionism the entire way, we'd have a real conference committee, that might have been televised, instead of the procedural method the Democrats are doing to bypass more GOP bullshit. The Republicans essentially took themselves out of the process because of their constant filibusters and delays, so fuck them, I'm glad the Democrats are getting this bill passed, even though I don't like it.

First off I only used that link for video purposes. I try to do my best and only use links that aren't bias,but somtimes you can fimd accurate info whether they lean left or right. However Media Matters isn't one of them IMO. They aren't even suppose to talk about politics because they are funded by tax payer subsidies. So in other words they are a criminal organization.

When were any of these proceedings televised ? I haven't seen any of them. Im not talking about debate. Im talking about what Obama PROMISED 8 DIFFERENT TIMES. So let me get this straight even though you don't like either of the 2 bills your still going to support it just to spite the GOP ?


If you think Health Insurance is exspensive now
just wait until it's FREE...