why does Israel imprison NONVIOLENT protesters w/o charge??

Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
edited January 2010 in A Moving Train
and why doesn't the Obama administration say anything? i mean, didn't Hillary say:
"By holding ourselves accountable, we reinforce our moral authority to demand that all governments adhere to obligations under international law; among them, not to torture, arbitrarily detain and persecute dissenters, or engage in political killings. Our government and the international community must counter the pretensions of those who deny or abdicate their responsibilities and hold violators to account."

so, it seems odd to me that Israel would lock the following people up, in some cases without even charging them with anything and no trials and i would think this administration that won on 'hope!' and 'change we can believe in!' they would ACT on those words and campaign rhetoric, unless........naw, he couldn't be just as full of shit with that 'i could give a fuck' attitude as the previous boss, could he???

Israel's defenders claim, well when they DO claim anything other than saying they are right but have argued it far too many times before with other people so they refuse to back anything up other than throwing out tired old propaganda claiming all arabs want to murder the jews and drive them into the sea, if only there were some non violent protesters.....i wonder how many of them are sitting in an Israeli prison cell with bullshit charges or no charges at all? i wonder how people can support this violent, repressive apartheid? i wonder if they feel Mandela should be locked back up?


-Mohammad Othman
arrested on September 22, 2009, at the Allenby Bridge crossing, while returning from addressing the Norwegian national pension fund about divestment from Elbit Systems, a major Israeli military contractor. Mohammad has now been held in administrative detention-without charge-for 106 days.

-Abdallah Abu Rahmah
a leader of the weekly nonviolent protests against the Apartheid Wall in Bil'in, was arrested in his home in the early morning hours of December 10, 2009-International Human Rights Day. He has been slapped with a weapons possession charge for collecting empty tear gas canisters shot at him and other peaceful demonstrators by the Israeli army.

-Jamal Juma'
coordinator of the Palestinian Grassroots Anti-Apartheid Wall Campaign, was arrested on December 16 and is being held without charge. On January 4 his administrative detention was extended for a further 3 days. He has now been held for more than 20 days.
"We cannot deny the gap that remains between its eloquent promises and the life experiences of so many of our fellow human beings, now we must finish the job."

finish?? when the fuck are you gonna start!?
don't compete; coexist

what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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  • StarfallStarfall Posts: 548
    and why doesn't the Obama administration say anything?

    Maybe because our government did it also? I mean, look at the protesters in the last Republican National Convention in Minneapolis, who were roundly arrested and detained even without doing anything wrong.

    Ask Democray Now's Amy Goodman, who also wound up in jail for simply trying to do her job.

    It's contagious apparently. Even in a relatively socialist state like Denmark.
    "It's not hard to own something. Or everything. You just have to know that it's yours, and then be willing to let it go." - Neil Gaiman, "Stardust"
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Starfall wrote:
    and why doesn't the Obama administration say anything?

    Maybe because our government did it also? I mean, look at the protesters in the last Republican National Convention in Minneapolis, who were roundly arrested and detained even without doing anything wrong.

    Ask Democray Now's Amy Goodman, who also wound up in jail for simply trying to do her job.

    It's contagious apparently. Even in a relatively socialist state like Denmark.

    I was going to mention Amy Goodman, too. Our own gov't does it!
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    Starfall wrote:
    and why doesn't the Obama administration say anything?

    Maybe because our government did it also? I mean, look at the protesters in the last Republican National Convention in Minneapolis, who were roundly arrested and detained even without doing anything wrong.

    Ask Democray Now's Amy Goodman, who also wound up in jail for simply trying to do her job.

    It's contagious apparently. Even in a relatively socialist state like Denmark.
    No, it's different with Israel. The IDF are often given strict orders to arrest Palestinian protestors with one specific goal in mind: To send a message to the Palestinians to stop resisting an ongoing occupation. So in other words, it is a much broader vision in mind. In other countries where the people sometimes just have differing agreements on an issue, lots of times it could just be the police taking advantage of disgruntled people, or any number of much smaller reasons. In other words, it's not like the American government gave specific orders to arrest people at the RNC. Obviously I understand that in some cases, like the Vietnam protests, were different, but I think you got my point.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    israel does more than imprison nonviolent protesters. there's a youtube vid going around about a palestinian resistance leader, peacefully protesting, shot in the chest my a tear gas round. he died a few minutes later.




    israel has gaza under siege, they dont' give a fuck about human life.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Commy wrote:
    israel does more than imprison nonviolent protesters. there's a youtube vid going around about a palestinian resistance leader, peacefully protesting, shot in the chest my a tear gas round. he died a few minutes later.

    yeah, there's never a shortage of examples like that...during operation cast lead their orders were everyone is a target, some absurd argument that makes virtually everything and everyone an extension of hamas. i watched a youtube video the other day about a survivor of one of the countless massacres by Israeli's decades ago pretty much having her entire family all the way to grandparents, cousins, uncles....were methodically rounded up and murdered over land.
    Commy wrote:

    israel has gaza under siege, they dont' give a fuck about human life.

    the sad truth
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • so, it seems odd to me that Israel would lock the following people up, in some cases without even charging them with anything and no trials and i would think this administration that won on 'hope!' and 'change we can believe in!' they would ACT on those words and campaign rhetoric, unless........naw, he couldn't be just as full of shit with that 'i could give a fuck' attitude as the previous boss, could he???
    damn the previous boss, and this administration is no better. just more of the same. they don't give a shit about the Palestinians. all they care about is offering continued support of Israels illegal, brutal occupation and oppression against the Palestinian people.
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