Welfare...Public Aid....Food Stamps???

SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,786
edited January 2010 in All Encompassing Trip
Dont know much about how it works....
Do you get your check once a month?? Once a week??? Twice a month????

The reason I ask?? I went to the grocery store yesterday, spent $100, and barely had half a cart full of food...

I notice people walking throught the store with shopping carts just LOADED with groceries....Hundreds and Hundreds of dollars in food, and stuff......

I work hard, Kathy works hard, we both make good money.....
These people walking through the store with these grocery carts just LOADED with food??? I am just going to say that 90% of them dont even look like they can spell the word employed.

So I was wondering...Did they just get their 1st of the month check?
Is this supposed to be a months worth of food?
Is there a limit on the amount of time you can collect public aid??
Or is this there way of life? Get government aid, buy groceries........

The other thing I noticed about a majority of these people?? There shopping carts were just LOADED with CRAP....Nothing healthy, just loads and loads of crap.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,381
    You & Kathy should just have like 6 kids and you will get supplemental $$$ to do the same just quit working make up an injury and your good to shop :lol::lol: by the way i hope you and her have a happy & great 2010 bro ... 8-)
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  • You & Kathy should just have like 6 kids and you will get supplemental $$$ to do the same just quit working make up an injury and your good to shop :lol::lol:
    Hey Jose!!!

    Happy New Year!!!!

    I was just fascinated yesterday.....
    These people had HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS of dollars worth of food in there carts.....And I am thinking to myself...

    "I would have to make at least $100,000 a year to afford that".....

    Yet the people buying this shit are walking around in sweatpants and dirty clothing.

    I must be doing something wrong....
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  • QuarterToTenQuarterToTen Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 3,642
    and i'll bet you didn't see any coupons or sale ad's in their carts though.

    disheartening to say the least.

    these days $100 worth of groceries can easily fit into 4 bags
    and you're still out of milk by the end of the week.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,381
    You & Kathy should just have like 6 kids and you will get supplemental $$$ to do the same just quit working make up an injury and your good to shop :lol::lol:
    Hey Jose!!!

    Happy New Year!!!!

    I was just fascinated yesterday.....
    These people had HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS of dollars worth of food in there carts.....And I am thinking to myself...

    "I would have to make at least $100,000 a year to afford that".....

    Yet the people buying this shit are walking around in sweatpants and dirty clothing.

    I must be doing something wrong....

    Hey no you are doing exactly the right thing you are a productive contributing citizen :) unlike them they are what's driving this country into a giant hole which no president will ever know how to dig out of,i see the same shit here and too wonder how the fuck is that cart holding up yet these folks walk around with shit stains on their sweats fucking pathetic .....
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  • and i'll bet you didn't see any coupons or sale ad's in their carts though.

    disheartening to say the least.

    these days $100 worth of groceries can easily fit into 4 bags
    and you're still out of milk by the end of the week.
    5 Boxes of cereal
    5 boxes of twinkies
    5 boxes of ramen noodles
    5 gallons of juice
    And just loads and loads of chips, popcorn, doritos etc.

    These carts are just overflowing with food....
    And again....The people pushing these carts dont look like they are making that kind of money.....
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  • Kathy and I see a young couple, very young, in there 20's.....

    With enough fucking food to feed an army....
    Yet there is no way these KIDS can afford this.....
    So I am going to guess they are on some type of public aid......Yet they are in there 20's? Already feeding off the government????

    Its a way of life...right???
    Its the way they were brought up....right???
    This is the way they are SUPPOSED to behave.....Because this is the way they were taught to behave.....right???
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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,321
    and i'll bet you didn't see any coupons or sale ad's in their carts though.

    disheartening to say the least.

    these days $100 worth of groceries can easily fit into 4 bags
    and you're still out of milk by the end of the week.
    5 Boxes of cereal
    5 boxes of twinkies
    5 boxes of ramen noodles
    5 gallons of juice
    And just loads and loads of chips, popcorn, doritos etc.

    These carts are just overflowing with food....
    And again....The people pushing these carts dont look like they are making that kind of money.....

    well it's good to see they're eating healthy....
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  • QuarterToTenQuarterToTen Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 3,642
    and i'll bet you didn't see any coupons or sale ad's in their carts though.

    disheartening to say the least.

    these days $100 worth of groceries can easily fit into 4 bags
    and you're still out of milk by the end of the week.
    5 Boxes of cereal
    5 boxes of twinkies
    5 boxes of ramen noodles
    5 gallons of juice
    And just loads and loads of chips, popcorn, doritos etc.

    These carts are just overflowing with food....
    And again....The people pushing these carts dont look like they are making that kind of money.....

    and then stop at McDonald's on the way home.

    everyone can fall on hard times, especially now.

    but it would make more sense, at least to me, to try and stretch your food dollar
    especially now, no matter who is paying for it. junk food is expensive.

    what a waste in every sense of the word.
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  • Funny...

    But I left the grocery store yesterday realizing.....

    There is something seriously fucking wrong with this country we live in....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    but it would make more sense, at least to me, to try and stretch your food dollar
    especially now, no matter who is paying for it. junk food is expensive.

    what a waste in every sense of the word.


    Actually, junk food is cheap...that's why people on welfare/food stamps get so much of it and, in turn, is why obesity rates fr those in poverty is higher. It's cheaper to buy Oreos and McDonalds than it is to buy some fresh produce. Junk food is cheap, which is why they load up on it: they can.
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  • QuarterToTenQuarterToTen Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 3,642
    Funny...

    But I left the grocery store yesterday realizing.....

    There is something seriously fucking wrong with this country we live in....

    agreed. the skewed way in which public aid funds are distributed
    has always left me a bit befuddled.

    frankly, i'm amazed that such practices have been allowed to continue, seemingly unregulated
    and unscrutinized. or at least that's the way it seems.

    and a simple trip to the grocery store is a glaring example of that.
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  • QuarterToTenQuarterToTen Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 3,642
    BinFrog wrote:
    but it would make more sense, at least to me, to try and stretch your food dollar
    especially now, no matter who is paying for it. junk food is expensive.

    what a waste in every sense of the word.


    Actually, junk food is cheap...that's why people on welfare/food stamps get so much of it and, in turn, is why obesity rates fr those in poverty is higher. It's cheaper to buy Oreos and McDonalds than it is to buy some fresh produce. Junk food is cheap, which is why they load up on it: they can.

    well where i shop a couple of $.99 a pound whole chickens,
    a 10 pound bag of potatoes and some canned vegetables
    are much more inexpensive and can feed a family much longer
    than a $4.00 bag of Doritos.

    maybe i shop at the wrong store.

    it's all about choices. and today's society, unfortunately, is all about the easiest choice
    no matter what it costs.
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  • Funny...

    But I left the grocery store yesterday realizing.....

    There is something seriously fucking wrong with this country we live in....

    it took a trip to the supermarket for you to realize that? open your eyes, man.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    BinFrog wrote:
    but it would make more sense, at least to me, to try and stretch your food dollar
    especially now, no matter who is paying for it. junk food is expensive.

    what a waste in every sense of the word.


    Actually, junk food is cheap...that's why people on welfare/food stamps get so much of it and, in turn, is why obesity rates fr those in poverty is higher. It's cheaper to buy Oreos and McDonalds than it is to buy some fresh produce. Junk food is cheap, which is why they load up on it: they can.


    yes it's cheap but it has little nutritional value so you must consume more of it whereas if you had just bought a chicken and some veggies it would last longer and be better for you and you've saved money
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Funny...

    But I left the grocery store yesterday realizing.....

    There is something seriously fucking wrong with this country we live in....


    i realized this 20 years ago...where've you been? :)


    :wave:
  • LloydXmasLloydXmas Posts: 7,539
    Holy shit. I was in the super market last month and this couple was buying 6 gallons of milk and doing it in 3 different transactions. All I could think of was the family selling the milk for 2 bucks a gallon and buying some crack with the profits. And they were using food stamps. I was seething in anger.(at the store for doing it and at the people)
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    maybe they were shopping for a new years party?
    and they forgot to do their laundry so they went with dirty clothes... lol i dno :D

    i have been re-doing the living room in the basement and my boyfriend and i went to the liquor store in our painting clothes... bought a bunch of stuff for new years eve looking all scrubby - i hope people weren't thinking the same thing with us! :shock: :lol:
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    Some of em are prolly food stampin it, but some of them just have no shame.

    I don't mind people rockin the LINK card, especially the way things are now, but from workin in retail I can tell that about 25% of the people that get it actually need it.

    My other point.....Can people not wash up a little or put somethin decent on before goin in public? People would stink, have dirty clothing, ratty hair, slimy teeth....... How bout take 5 freakin minutes and do somethin about that?
  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    norm wrote:
    yes it's cheap but it has little nutritional value so you must consume more of it whereas if you had just bought a chicken and some veggies it would last longer and be better for you and you've saved money


    Which makes sense to you or I, but instant gratification is the name of the game if you use food stamps. You're not generally thinking long term when you are trying to make a few bucks go a long way so you can feed our family.
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  • DewieCox wrote:
    My other point.....Can people not wash up a little or put somethin decent on before goin in public? People would stink, have dirty clothing, ratty hair, slimy teeth....... How bout take 5 freakin minutes and do somethin about that?

    Meh. I've been one of those people who has literally rolled out of bed (brushed my teeth) and ran to the grocery store to pick up a few necessary items.

    As a teenager, I worked at a grocery store and I saw a lot of dirty, smelly people, many of whom were simply on their way home from work. People would give them dirty looks, but hey, after 10 hours of painting or installing pools or landscaping in the hot sun, the last thing I'd want to do is get home, shower, and then have to go back out again. Once I'm home and showered, I'd have a beer and be relaxing for the evening, so go ahead and drop in, smelly and all.

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  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    Kathy and I see a young couple, very young, in there 20's.....

    With enough fucking food to feed an army....
    Yet there is no way these KIDS can afford this.....
    So I am going to guess they are on some type of public aid......Yet they are in there 20's? Already feeding off the government????

    Its a way of life...right???
    Its the way they were brought up....right???
    This is the way they are SUPPOSED to behave.....Because this is the way they were taught to behave.....right???

    Jennifer and I just went to the grocery store last night and got everything we needed for under $300. One cart. I'm 21, she's 25... :D , please note us as an exception to the rule.

    A lot of families buy way too much shit they don't need. Jen and I try our hardest to stick to the essentials, and we buy healthy stuff like fresh produce, and wholesome meal ingredients. It'll be a very different day when we're filling our carts with twinkies, soda, and bags of doritos.
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    I live in MA and was unemployed in November. My wife is 9 months pregnant and we have a 2 yr old boy. My wife was told about the WIC (Women, Infant, Children) program. We are eligable because we have a young boy and no one works currently in the house. The state gives us checks every month for specific items we can buy. And I mean specific. 4 gallons of 1% milk per month. Canned vegetables. Wheat Bread. Juice. Fresh Fruits. It helps us out a lot. But nothing on the list is remotely junk food. We have to buy most of the groceries ourselves. Which is fine. The funny thing is, I apparently make too much on unemployment to qualify for any other govt program. The checks we get add up to about $50 a month in food. At first I felt like a bag of shit paying for certain items with a state check. But then I found out that my hard earned tax dollars I pay when I am working fund this program, I'm OK with it. I definately put more in than I am taking out.
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  • PJPixiePJPixie Posts: 3,026
    I hear ya Speedy!! I've gone off once in the last month at this woman in the grocery store who was buying a bunch of shit groceries (junk food) with her food stamps. This woman had a ring on every finger and nice manicured nails, a coach purse (which I'm sure was fake) and got into a brand new Toyota Camry. And I can't get a stitch of help (at a time when I really need it)..........just blows my mind!! As the poster above said......."I apparently make too much money on unemployement to qualify for any sort of aid to feed my two kids" Just amazing.....


    oh and to the poster above.......that WIC program is a very good program. They only provide food (as you stated) that is healthy and necessary. In order to receive the vouchers they provide you have to attend certain nutrition classes that they provide so you can feed your families healthy and stretch your dollar.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    DewieCox wrote:
    My other point.....Can people not wash up a little or put somethin decent on before goin in public? People would stink, have dirty clothing, ratty hair, slimy teeth....... How bout take 5 freakin minutes and do somethin about that?

    Meh. I've been one of those people who has literally rolled out of bed (brushed my teeth) and ran to the grocery store to pick up a few necessary items.

    Short little jaunts into a store are forgivable, and you had the decency to brush your teeth. I'm think more along the lines of the op and overloaded shopping carts being pushed by the stinky rat haired folks.
  • "Wake up, let's go, it's first o' the month!" - Bone Thugs' n Harmony.

    LOL! This post is filling me with recent memories of my life in Rhode Island, which I left just two years ago...

    For a decade, I lived in an apartment building that had originally been Housing For the Elderly. Majority of the tenants were still old people who received Social Security cheques. On the third of the month (or the business day prior, if the third was a weekend or holiday) they would do the majority of their shopping. Food stores, banks, and discount/department stores were INSANELY crowded on Cheque Day.

    Welfare moms got AFDC payments on the first and fifteenth of each month. SSI recipients got theirs on the first. So the first, third, and fifteenth of every month were the days to avoid the shops. I outgrew the big chain grocery stores in favour of healthier ones like Whole Foods: Even Whole Foods Market was packed on welfare days!!!

    Better food is cheaper. I spend less than $5 a day to keep myself in organic, vegetarian food. I started a thread about it in AET to see how my spending compared with the rest of you. Here in Los Angeles, I buy food from Whole Foods Market, Trader Joe's, and sometimes a few things at Fresh 'n Easy. I am not surprised to see people spend $80 on a bag of items at WFM. But I pop into the almighty chain store "Ralph's" once a week to cash in my recycling. I have to wait in line where there is a live cashier to receive my five bucks. I often see very ordinary-looking folks spending $200 at once, without blinking. It boggles my mind.


    Please don't stress about your tax dollars going to food stamps or welfare moms: That money is a drop in the bucket to distract you from the fact that over TWENTY EIGHT TRILLION of your dollars has been handed over to the banks in 2008-2009. That's "trillion" with a capital trillion. Get angry at the Banksters. Whilst the populace was quibbling about social programmes, the banks robbed us blind.
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  • HorosHoros Posts: 4,518
    Holy shit. I was in the super market last month and this couple was buying 6 gallons of milk and doing it in 3 different transactions. All I could think of was the family selling the milk for 2 bucks a gallon and buying some crack with the profits. And they were using food stamps. I was seething in anger.(at the store for doing it and at the people)
    This was surely the WIC program mentioned by another poster. It only allows certain essentials(milk, eggs, unsweetened cereal.)

    I collected public assistance years ago. There are job programs that some recipients are required to participate in but even this is pretty easy to coast through on. The problem is when you do start earning your benifits go down, the same is true of housing assistance. Thus there is no real motivation to better yourself.

    When I was collecting food stamps I did use coupons but I bought what I liked to eat and it included much junk food(if you want to discuss eating habits then start a new thread.) I would spend most of what I got as soon as I got it. Thus the full cart Speedy saw. Again maybe it's my spending habits but I wouldn't shop as wisely if I spent just a little at a time.

    There is a mentality that you are not spending real money and I'm not saying that plenty of people are not abusing the system. But it did get me and my family off the streets and I'd like to think that I've contributed back.
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  • Heatherj43Heatherj43 Posts: 1,254
    Dont know much about how it works....
    Do you get your check once a month?? Once a week??? Twice a month????

    The reason I ask?? I went to the grocery store yesterday, spent $100, and barely had half a cart full of food...

    I notice people walking throught the store with shopping carts just LOADED with groceries....Hundreds and Hundreds of dollars in food, and stuff......

    I work hard, Kathy works hard, we both make good money.....
    These people walking through the store with these grocery carts just LOADED with food??? I am just going to say that 90% of them dont even look like they can spell the word employed.

    So I was wondering...Did they just get their 1st of the month check?
    Is this supposed to be a months worth of food?
    Is there a limit on the amount of time you can collect public aid??
    Or is this there way of life? Get government aid, buy groceries........

    The other thing I noticed about a majority of these people?? There shopping carts were just LOADED with CRAP....Nothing healthy, just loads and loads of crap.
    Most people on welfare get more in food stamps than they do in money. Like, if they get $180 in cash for a family of 4, (that's once a month), they'll get about $450.00 in food stamps!! They really need the money more, but the state pays the money and the fed. pays the food stamps. Thats why the difference. Some people will take a friend or family member shopping and pay for the other person's food and then have the other person give them half of what it cost, so they can get more money to support their family. So, if they get $450 in stamps, they can get $225 in money. Some stores, in a poor part of town, will let them buy stuff not allowed with food stamps, like cigarettes, booze, toilet paper, paper goods, pet food, etc.
    As long as they have kids and no income, or very low income, they can get stamps forever. They do make them go to some kind of training thing, but it only last a week or two. Sometimes they have to go to school or work at least 20 hours a week, but I think that's only if their kids are over 6 years old.
    People get their stamps at various dates at the beginning of each month. It varies according to their case number, but its during the first 12 days of the month. It is for the entire month.
    I think they should be able to buy toilet paper and stuff like that, but not soda pop, chips, ice cream, cake, etc. Its stupid. We all need toilet paper, but not junk food. Did you notice how fat food stamp people generally are?

    Oh yeah, there is a program called W.I.C. for pregnant women and those with kids under 5. It gives them cards to buy baby foods, and certain foods to build up their vitamins. They can get apple juice, cereals, cheeses, milk, eggs. They only can buy certain kinds of juice, cereal and cheeses too, to make sure its nutritious.

    Years ago, I collected this help and was scared to death to get a job. I knew that if I did, my kids may not eat. It took a lot to get me off the help. I finally did and was so relieved. My kids didn't starve. One problem is that they don't go after the dad's of these kids strong enough. Mom's are put thru hell just to feed their kids, while dad is off the hook, and when he does do something, he is treated like a hero. Thats another thread!!
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  • Heatherj43Heatherj43 Posts: 1,254
    "Wake up, let's go, it's first o' the month!" - Bone Thugs' n Harmony.

    LOL! This post is filling me with recent memories of my life in Rhode Island, which I left just two years ago...

    For a decade, I lived in an apartment building that had originally been Housing For the Elderly. Majority of the tenants were still old people who received Social Security cheques. On the third of the month (or the business day prior, if the third was a weekend or holiday) they would do the majority of their shopping. Food stores, banks, and discount/department stores were INSANELY crowded on Cheque Day.

    Welfare moms got AFDC payments on the first and fifteenth of each month. SSI recipients got theirs on the first. So the first, third, and fifteenth of every month were the days to avoid the shops. I outgrew the big chain grocery stores in favour of healthier ones like Whole Foods: Even Whole Foods Market was packed on welfare days!!!

    Better food is cheaper. I spend less than $5 a day to keep myself in organic, vegetarian food. I started a thread about it in AET to see how my spending compared with the rest of you. Here in Los Angeles, I buy food from Whole Foods Market, Trader Joe's, and sometimes a few things at Fresh 'n Easy. I am not surprised to see people spend $80 on a bag of items at WFM. But I pop into the almighty chain store "Ralph's" once a week to cash in my recycling. I have to wait in line where there is a live cashier to receive my five bucks. I often see very ordinary-looking folks spending $200 at once, without blinking. It boggles my mind.


    Please don't stress about your tax dollars going to food stamps or welfare moms: That money is a drop in the bucket to distract you from the fact that over TWENTY EIGHT TRILLION of your dollars has been handed over to the banks in 2008-2009. That's "trillion" with a capital trillion. Get angry at the Banksters. Whilst the populace was quibbling about social programmes, the banks robbed us blind.
    Old people on social security is different. They do get paid the 3rd of the month, but they earned that. Leave them alone. They don't get enough money anyway, then to have to get paid when everyone else does and have to deal with those long lines sucks!! Maybe other people should shop on other days!
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  • Heatherj43Heatherj43 Posts: 1,254
    DewieCox wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    My other point.....Can people not wash up a little or put somethin decent on before goin in public? People would stink, have dirty clothing, ratty hair, slimy teeth....... How bout take 5 freakin minutes and do somethin about that?

    Meh. I've been one of those people who has literally rolled out of bed (brushed my teeth) and ran to the grocery store to pick up a few necessary items.

    Short little jaunts into a store are forgivable, and you had the decency to brush your teeth. I'm think more along the lines of the op and overloaded shopping carts being pushed by the stinky rat haired folks.
    Food stamps don't pay for soap and toothpaste. LOL!
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    It's even worse when rich people pay with food stamps. As a teenager I worked in a grocery store located in one of the richest towns in the country. You could tell the people had money, but still payed with food stamps. They knew how to cheat the system. It used to piss us off.

    I won't point the finger at the nationality of these people, but they were foreigners working as doctors in this country for the most part.
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