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12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
edited January 2010 in The Porch
Complaining about him having no groove or not hitting the cymbals like a madman, go watch this and report back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1APas36AQc
5/28/06, 6/27/08, 10/28/09, 5/18/10, 5/21/10
8/7/08, 6/9/09
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,853
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    Complaining about him having no groove or not hitting the cymbals like a madman, go watch this and report back.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1APas36AQc

    Well I'm not a Matt-hater but there was nothing about this performance that is going to make the haters stop hating.

    But what I really liked about this video was the sound quality. Probably the best sound I've ever heard on a PJ youtube video recorded from the audience.
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2

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  • PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,799
    I've never been a Matt hater, I don't know any Matt haters either.

    I can tell you that after the four Philly shows, I have an increased amount of respect for the man, that's one hell of a workout
  • KB262864KB262864 Posts: 67
    I don't even need to watch it. I think Matt is fantastic and PJ is infinitely better with him as their drummer. Personality wise, they are more cohesive as a band with him at the drums. As PJ nears 20 years together that cannot be overrated.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,853
    KB262864 wrote:
    I don't even need to watch it. I think Matt is fantastic and PJ is infinitely better with him as their drummer.

    Totally disagree
    KB262864 wrote:
    Personality wise, they are more cohesive as a band with him at the drums. As PJ nears 20 years together that cannot be overrated.

    Totally agree
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2

    Pearl Jam bootlegs:
    http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
  • Arthur Digby SellersArthur Digby Sellers Posts: 259
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    Complaining about him having no groove or not hitting the cymbals like a madman, go watch this and report back.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1APas36AQc

    Well I'm not a Matt-hater but there was nothing about this performance that is going to make the haters stop hating.

    But what I really liked about this video was the sound quality. Probably the best sound I've ever heard on a PJ youtube video recorded from the audience.

    Wow, the sound quality is quite awesome. Here is another one I guess shot by the same guy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeFBhGPG ... re=related
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  • Got GutsGot Guts Posts: 40
    I'm not a Matt hater, I don't know of any Matt haters and in my opinion any one who hates him for his drumming is an idiot. They became the True Pearl Jam when he joined. ( my opinion again )
  • Niko80Niko80 Posts: 1,589
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    KB262864 wrote:
    I don't even need to watch it. I think Matt is fantastic and PJ is infinitely better with him as their drummer.

    Totally disagree
    KB262864 wrote:
    Personality wise, they are more cohesive as a band with him at the drums. As PJ nears 20 years together that cannot be overrated.

    Totally agree
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  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,557
    cant beat a bit of this!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXZ6U-kg ... re=related
  • JennytreeJennytree Posts: 5,340
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:

    Well I'm not a Matt-hater but there was nothing about this performance that is going to make the haters stop hating.

    But what I really liked about this video was the sound quality. Probably the best sound I've ever heard on a PJ youtube video recorded from the audience.


    The sound is taken from the bootleg PJ released - it's not recorded by the cameraperson.

    And I still don't like the way Matt plays stuff from Ten :D
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  • FenwayFaithfulFenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    Jennytree wrote:
    And I still don't like the way Matt plays stuff from Ten :D

    Agreed. The No Code stuff too. Jack played the crap out of those songs.

    That being said, I think Matt's great.
    "FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
  • dreamweaverdreamweaver Posts: 716
    to each is own... But it takes a drummer to know a drummer. Matt is the best.
    Meadowlands, MSG 1, MSG 2 - '98
    Jones Beach NY 1 + 3 - '00
    MSG 1 + 2 - '03
    Boston Garden - '04
    Montreal - '05
    Boston Garden 1, Meadowlands 1 + 2 - '06
    Mansfield 1 - '08
    (EV solo) Boston 1 - '08
    Chicago 1 - '09
    MSG -'10
    Brooklyn 1+2 - '13
    Central Park - '15
    MSG - '16
    Fenway - '16
    Wrigley - '16
    (RRHOF) Brooklyn - '17
    Fenway - '18
    MSG - '22
  • AKRounder85AKRounder85 Posts: 250
    I dont think Matt has any haters..... where is this coming from????
    2000- 9/1 Camden
    2003- 4/28 Philly, 7/5 Camden
    2005- 10/3 Philly
    2006- 5/27 Camden, 5/28 Camden, 6/3 East Rutherford
    2008- 6/19 Camden, 6/20 Camden
    2009- 10/29 Philly, 10/28 Philly, 10/30 Philly, 10/31 Philly
    2012- 9/2 Made In America
    2013- 10/21 Philly, 10/22 Philly
    2016- 4/28 Philly, 4/29 Philly
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    AKRounder85 wrote:
    I dont think Matt has any haters..... where is this coming from????
    when people say they prefer one of the other drummers, they are immediately branded a Matt hater by default. :roll:

    but Matt cant play No Code songs for shit! lolololol

    i tried to watch that video, but its Dissident.
  • OGT92OGT92 Posts: 1,588
    Wasn't Matt in a band called "Hater" ?
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  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    I really wanted to shove this down the throats of all the people dissing matt on youtube but just made this thread here instead. I know no one "hates" matt here.

    His playing on that song was awesome. He was grooving more then he used to with that song and was hitting the cymbals alot more.
    5/28/06, 6/27/08, 10/28/09, 5/18/10, 5/21/10
    8/7/08, 6/9/09
  • theoceansmademetheoceansmademe Posts: 1,132
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqfKN_FkOsw&feature=PlayList&p=37061459C20FFD50&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=1

    Not a Matt hater, just prefer Jack.

    The above link gives a nice taste of Jack's style.
  • theoceansmademetheoceansmademe Posts: 1,132
    better yet, just go to Youtube and search Casper, WY 1995...Wow what a show. The crowds just aren't like this any more.

    Happy I experience PJ in the 90's
  • PJFAN_seattlePJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    What kind of camera were they using???
    Matt is AMAZING, drumming is HARD.
    Also I tend to like the later albums of PJ best.
    Shows:
    Seattle Key Arena 9-21-2009
    Seattle Key Arena 9-22-2009
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    i worship at the altar of No Code, and Jack was a lot of the reason why, therefore i love Jack.

    at first i thought Matt was pretty boring for the most part, and hated most of his songs, but lately he's made me a fan. i think they sort of let him off the leash on the last few tours and Johnny Guitar fucking rocks. I think he has found a nice fit in the band now.
  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    Arthur Digby Sellers wrote:

    Wow, the sound quality is quite awesome. Here is another one I guess shot by the same guy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeFBhGPG ... re=related

    Yea hes definitely been going back to his earlier playing ever since 08. He goes fuckin crazy from like 4:25 on and I love that double kick at 4:37. His playing during mikes solo is crazy as hell too, actually a little too crazy. the rhythm he starts playing at one point is totally off with the song, not messing up though, he does that every once in awhile. thats probably his jazz side coming out. But I hate it when drummers dont show off during a guitar solo. Matt always shows off during guitar solos.
    5/28/06, 6/27/08, 10/28/09, 5/18/10, 5/21/10
    8/7/08, 6/9/09
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    MrSmith wrote:
    i worship at the altar of No Code, and Jack was a lot of the reason why, therefore i love Jack.

    at first i thought Matt was pretty boring for the most part, and hated most of his songs, but lately he's made me a fan. i think they sort of let him off the leash on the last few tours and Johnny Guitar fucking rocks. I think he has found a nice fit in the band now.
    +1
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  • say_hisay_hi Posts: 312
    I was a Matt hater but then one day I was at work and Matt came in and told me he liked the way the guy before me did my job....
    4/30/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/8/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05, 5/4/06 (Letterman Mini-Concert), 5/5/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 5/15/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10
  • Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    Anyone who hates on Matt is PAINFULLY naive :?
    "No way to save someone who won't take the rope,and just lets go..."
  • UpSideDownUpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    matt's drum work is by far the most creative and versatile drumming in the pj catalogue.......

    hes been tearing it up live lately
  • Aaron 23Aaron 23 Posts: 543
    Poor Matt...guy just can't play :(

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ygBladNLo

    Let's look at that one more time...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jssjO5WtIsY
  • Evacuation RulesEvacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    Matt's songwriting takes more of a beating here than his drumming does.
  • MisterEtake2MisterEtake2 Posts: 389
    Like his drumming a lot. As for his singing....not so much.
  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle Posts: 10,724
    MrSmith wrote:
    i worship at the altar of No Code, and Jack was a lot of the reason why, therefore i love Jack.

    at first i thought Matt was pretty boring for the most part, and hated most of his songs, but lately he's made me a fan. i think they sort of let him off the leash on the last few tours and Johnny Guitar fucking rocks. I think he has found a nice fit in the band now.

    Totally agree. Seems like he tried to make the drums sound more like Jack during this last tour during the No Code era songs.
    NERDS!
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Posts: 4,007
    Didn't relise there was ANY 'Matt Haters'... :? But if YOU need your "FIX" of CYMBALS...then Just listen to 'DAVE A'...PMSL :P
  • rearviewmirorrearviewmiror Posts: 894
    I admit, I love Dave A on drums. But the band is better with Matt and he is one hell of a drummer.

    Not a hater at all. I can prefer boxed wine to the expensive stuff. Doesn't mean I don't recognize it's quality. 8-)
    9/7/98, 8/3/00, 9/4/00, 4/15/03, 7/1/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 5/24/06, 5/25/06, 6/17/08, 6/22/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 5/17/10, 10/15/13, 10/16/13.
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