Here is my theory on why Iran wants Nukes so bad
hrd2imgn
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assume they were complicit in any way with 9/11, wouldn't you want nukes to deter an impending US invasion? They probably figured eventually we'd get our heads out of our asses in the USA, and figure out they helped in some ways with the attacks. Now yes some would argue they are on our short list anyhow because of course, the US hates everyone and wants to dominate the world....
just my conspiracy theory for the day.
assume they were complicit in any way with 9/11, wouldn't you want nukes to deter an impending US invasion? They probably figured eventually we'd get our heads out of our asses in the USA, and figure out they helped in some ways with the attacks. Now yes some would argue they are on our short list anyhow because of course, the US hates everyone and wants to dominate the world....
just my conspiracy theory for the day.
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didn't we fly bin laden's family out of the country when all other flights were grounded for a few days?
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"the US hates everyone and wants to dominate the world..."
your theory reminds me of the Godfather II.......
Michael- I don't feel I have to kill everybody,just my enemy's Tom.
Godfather.
In what fairey tale universe does Iran have the capabilities to invade the United States? Seriously... Iran? Really?
It all sounds like a fuzzy logic justification to bomb Middle Eastern countries that start with I-R-A.
Hail, Hail!!!
You seem to resent the backward logic some employ to justify US-hating....if you hate something, don'tcha do it too.....your theory begins with a conclusion, and ends nowhere near the start of the story....
Why?
And what does the fact that these people now live in Iran have to do with justifying an attack against Iran?
"assume they were complicit in any way with 9/11"
this "theory" of yours is rooted in one of most ridiculous assumptions ever. if we assume every country we don't like was complicit in any way with 9/11 then we could justify any accusation and any action we take against that country. i can't believe i even have to explain to you why this doesn't make sense. it really amazes me how people can just make things up. My favorite part about your post is the fact that atleast you admit that that statement was an assumption, but the whole "Iran wants nukes so bad" is supposed to be accepted as a fact.
The fact is that there is no sufficient proof to suggest that Iran wants or is trying to get nukes, other than the same bullshit that the same people contrived to suggest that Iraq had WMDs. It's hilarious how these same people can come up with the same exact lie and still convince people of it. In fact, they are able to convince people like the OP that they came up with the theory themselves.
Wonderful.
soooooo....just to be clear you disagree?
i wonder how the op feels about these 2 guys, not their families, living in the US?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Posada_Carriles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Bosch
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
That's a bingo..
It's pathetic that so many don't understand what is going on in Iran right now. The protests are crazy. Iran really does have wonderful people. That country is actually more like the U.S. than any other in the middle east(except maybe Egypt). Especially in terms of having two seperate bodies of citizens.
Leave Iran alone :evil:
The fact is that it doesn't matter how close Iran is to following the perfect model that is the U.S. There is no legal justification to take any action against Iran. We should instead be focusing on Israel, who has broken more security council resolutions than anyone else in the world and is currently imposing an occupation and oppressing nearly 4 million people. We should not follow Israel blindly into more war and destruction.
Uh.
Can i get a giant flaming WHAT THE FUCK, for this post?
What in gods green fucking earth do you think dropping the names Carriles and Bosch is going to do for your argument?
Neither are Iranian.
In fact the ONLY tie they would have to Iran, would be the Iran-Contra Scandal, a scandal that should have been named the, "Hey, George HW Bush Thinks Its A Great Idea To Get The CIA To Secretly Import Latin American Cocaine to Mena Airport so His Buddy, Bill Clinton Can Launder and Sell it To American Children In Order To Buy illegal Guns To Sell To Iran To Get Money For Guns To Arm South American Guerrilla Warriors"
DO YOU REALIZE YOU JUST NAMED TWO FUCKED UP CONS WHO HAVE DIRECT LINKS BACK TO "OPERATION 40", and then more circuitous relationships back to GEORGE H.W BUSH, THE ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION OF CASTRO, AND ULTIMATELY TO THE MURDER OF JOHN F. KENNEDY???
JFK Murder Solved: Background on Posada Carriles
WHAT COULD YOU POSSIBLY HAVE BENEFITED BY DROPPING THOSE TWO NAMES IN YOUR ARGUMENT?
VERY confused.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
my random theory is this:
Bin Laden behind 9/11, I think most of us agree with this
His family(a small part of many many people, but still his family) is being given refuge in Iran (why is not clear is it to hide from US action towards them or to hide them from OBL or opposition to him??)
At any rate Iran is harboring the family of a international terrorist on top of our most wanted list, they know this and figure maybe the USA is going to want to talk to these people/interrogate/whatever; so we'll hide them for whomever. One could hypothesize they are harboring OBL then too (yes a bog assumption since many think he is in Pakistan or dead already)
Iran knowing/guessing OBL is responsible is taking on a major risk by keeping them and knows Uncle Sam will come calling with guns a blazing if needed like they did in Afghanistan and Iraq, so they(The Iranian gov not the people in general) want to develop the ultimate WMD to deter a possible attack from the USA
that is all I am inferring
the US hates everyone was a sarcastic slam on lefty thinking. I myself do not think this way I was more so trying to sum up how many people all over not just the US portray our country nowadays. I in no way think we as a country hate everyone. Typing is a hard way to get sarcasm across.
so I guess this just for shits lets debate theory is:
Iran knew about 9/11 somehow and is hiding OBL's family for him, Iran thinks eventually we'll figure it out and come after them so they want nukes to deter what they see as an imminent attack
I hope that makes things a little clearer. You can think it is a dumb theory or not I don't give a shit that is your right in the land of the free. Sure there is a lot of assumption that is why it is a THEORY. I would go out on a limb and say almost all of OBL's family had nothing to do with 9/11 or any of his hate ideology. But as a country trying to find this guy would you not want ot ask those related to him a few questions??
Afghanistan to go after OBL, Iraq to go get Saddam for what he did to my Daddy(GHWB), that is how I see it.
call it what you want I was throwing it out there to hear what you think.
Oh yeah as it is speculated Iran wants and is trying to get nukes, it is the same for Israel, they have not openly admitted to having them, but it is widely believed they have them.
have happy holidays
I didn't realize I needed to spell out every comment I make. I really think you misunderstood everything I said. When I was talking "two different bodies of citizens" i was being very vague. That comment had nothing to do with Egypt. It was only referring to Iran and America. And it didn't really refer to politics as a whole either. It was more about religion. How both countries have fundamentalists and progressives. And how there is a lot of both in each country. I thought you would get that from the sentence about the protests happening in Iran over the past couple days.The only reason I threw Egypt into the mix is because of their dealings with America and their way of life resembling America's a little more than many other middle eastern countries. Lame arguement, I know. Seeing how America has been dealing with countries like S.A. and Kuwait just the same. I should have just kept my post about Iran.
I find it funny that you flame my post and then print a paragragh at the end that basically agrees with my thoughts. I was basically saying that it is pathetic to even contemplate bombing a country like Iran. And you are right...sanctions should be brought against Israel long before Iran.
I don't think it is a dumb theory...........
I think it is the dumbest theory.
EVER
Wait a second. The dumbest theory ever award goes to the 9/11 truthers.
especially, as already stated, when the US government flew his family out of the US shortly after 9/11 and while all other flights were grounded
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
and notice the US is always invading.
US foreign policy is encouraging countries to seek out nuclear weapons, making the world more dangerous, not safer.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Uhm, Babylon is called Bagdad today. And they have already warred with them.
And speaking generally: vague prophesies about a people in a general vicinity being hostile towards another people in the same general vicinity are bound to be "right". If nothing else because neighbouring countries in the world historically invade eachother all the time. Empires always fall, and places keep getting invaded or see hostilities(usually by their neighbours). Few major cities of 2000 years ago remain major cities today
Write the prophecies vague enough and center them around basically things in the future not being like today with the vaguest hint og how they are different, and I bet you that most of them will arguably have come to pass, especially if interpreters are allowed to bend a little, switch countries (this name must be understood metaphorically and thus it is in reality "fill in new name here") and so forth.
As for the Iranian regime wanting nukes, of course they do. Their rivals and outright enemies have them already, and it is the only deterrent that works in international politics. If you have nukes, you get to negotiate.
But the premise that they are hiding OBLs family and because of that are seeking nukes, that's preposterous. If they are seeking nukes, they are doing so for the reasons mentioned above and by others.
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965