Tips for my building my PJ bootleg collection
I have a few days off for the holidays and I want to finally build my PJ bootleg collection. I know that a lot of great stuff is available on-line and I was hoping to get some advice from the experts on the board.
Here are some of my main questions:
- What is the best source for boots and rare tracks?
- Where is the best place to store the music? External hard drive or burn CDs?
- How big of a time commitment am I looking at? I do not have much outside of about 10 bootlegs that I have purchased in the past.
- In your opinion, what are the "must have" shows that I should find first?
- MP3 or FLAC?
- Any other tips or advice?
Thanks!!
Here are some of my main questions:
- What is the best source for boots and rare tracks?
- Where is the best place to store the music? External hard drive or burn CDs?
- How big of a time commitment am I looking at? I do not have much outside of about 10 bootlegs that I have purchased in the past.
- In your opinion, what are the "must have" shows that I should find first?
- MP3 or FLAC?
- Any other tips or advice?
Thanks!!
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www.pearljambootlegs.org is a prime source for downloading shows.
An external hard drive is a good way to go and you have all the time in the world to copy cd's
FLAC is the preferred choice by most these days but MP3 is also fine for many including me.
See what answers you get for which shows and look for threads related to boots and shows.
It's a labour of love depending on how long you want to spend. I've been going for 10 years now.
Try boots from 2000, 2003, 2005 and 2006 and see what other suggestions you get. There are many.
Don't try too much at once, they're always there.
Don't sit up too late eh!
Happy times are ahead
Dublin 02 Arena - 22/6/10. Belfast Odyssey Arena - 23/6/10. London Hyde Park - 25/6/10. Berlin Wuhlheide - 30/6/10.
Manchester MEN - 20/06/12. Manchester MEN - 21/06/12
That site is good for streaming but sucks for downloading. Here's the best blog around for boots: http://spreadingthejam.blogspot.com/
And I agree that mp3 is fine for someone looking to build their collection. You don't want to spend the next year of your life downloading the 2000 tour in FLAC.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Pretty much each boot you'll find at that site or the blog I posted is the highest quality recording possible. All the boots from 2000, 2003, 2005, and 2006 are official bootlegs. Most of the pre-2000 shows will be audience recordings but here is a list of the shows that have soundboards or radio broadcast sources: http://web.archive.org/web/200502070315 ... le=fmguide
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
I agree with the person who said pearljambootlets.org. I would also go to gremmie.net for the rare tracks.
Get an external hard drive. Because you have a goal in mind (all shows and rare stuff), I would suggest going with a large one. 1TB or bigger. I would also back up everything on DVD-R's. Hard drives fail and DVD's have a limited lifespan as well but without two different independent copies, you don't really have a reliable backup.
You are looking at weeks of effort. Not exaggerating.
Anything 2000 or later is going to be soundboard, if that is a concern. Otherwise there are a few very early shows I am partial to that are soundboard as well and display an unbelievable amount of energy and legendary playing. Look for Den Haag, Holland (1992-03-02) and Rotterdam, Holland (1992-03-06). There are also a few exceptional shows from the 1996 tour for No Code.
I would be remiss if I didn't mention the legendary Atlanta show from 1994-04-03. It may be the show that best encapsulates the first three years of their career as a band.
Download FLAC files. The bottom line is that FLAC is not supported by mp3 players for listening purposes, but if you download FLAC you can convert to mp3 if you would like.
You should make a spread sheet of shows that you have downloaded so that you don't lose track and waste time repeating your actions. There are also multiple different sources for some of the pre 2000 shows. Some sound better than others. If you make a spread sheet you can track the sound quality and source for the shows you have.
You're welcome. Hope this helps!!
They are pretty cheap these days.
If you are going to get into dvd's as well youll need alot of space.
Another thing, keep it organized from the start. Ive been reorganizing for the past few weeks and it a PITA!!
I would definitely get FLAC's over mp3's. You can convert FLAC to mp3, but you should start with the best you can.
Get ready to spend some time on it. There are over 700 shows. And Probably 400 dvd's out there. I have all the shows except for the ones that they are no recordings of. And Im slowing working on the dvd's. I think I only have about 100 left to get.
Not Demetrios... but...
If you want to send me an external HD, i will give you
1996
2000
2003
2006
2008
2009
tours in their entirety, and most of 1995 and about 50 shows from 1998.
All in FLAC.
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1998 Brisbane 2
2003 Brisbane 1
2006 LA 1 & 2
2008 LA 2, San Diego 1 (EV)
2009 LA 1, 2, 3 & 4, San Diego
2011 St. Louis (EV)
2012 Tulsa 1 & 2 (EV)
2013 Chicago, Dallas & OKC
1997: Oakland, CA - (Rolling Stones)
1998: Portland, OR. & Seattle, WA.
2009: Portland, OR.
2011: East Troy, WI. 1 & 2 - PJ20 & Portland, OR. - Ed Solo
2012: Dallas, TX. - Ed Solo
2013: Dallas, TX. Oklahoma City, OK. & Portland, OR.
2014: Tulsa, OK
2015: Seattle WA. - Mad Season
2016: Ft. Lauderdale, FL. Miami, FL. & Chicago, IL - Wrigley 1
2017: Dana Point - Ohana Fest - Ed Solo
2022: Louisville, St Louis
2024: Portland, OR
LeatherMosquitoMan - I will send you a PM. It would be great to get your help in building a base to my collection.
Thanks again to everyone. Any last tips before I start downloading?
Not Demetrios... but...
If you want to send me an external HD, i will give you
1996
2000
2003
2006
2008
2009
tours in their entirety, and most of 1995 and about 50 shows from 1998.
Hi there, this isn't the first time I've seen you make an offer to someone either beginning a collection or helping out someone who has had shows stolen or wiped from their hard drive. This is what makes the board a nice place to visit, not crucifying a first post for asking a 'dumb' question or not using the search function before starting a new thread. We don't visit here to be made to feel small or stupid and you sir are a true gentleman and genuine fan and are amongst the select who always make a kind offer to a fan in need. This is a tremendous offer and I salute you for it. I'm sure PJ-Cubs will be extremely grateful to you.
Dublin 02 Arena - 22/6/10. Belfast Odyssey Arena - 23/6/10. London Hyde Park - 25/6/10. Berlin Wuhlheide - 30/6/10.
Manchester MEN - 20/06/12. Manchester MEN - 21/06/12
Any of the shows from Europe in 92 are a great starting point, mostly Den Haag, Tivoli, Zurich where they played the trilogy for the first time. Indio 93 is another great one as is St Petersberg, both Atlantas, Boston and New York in 1994. During the 95 tour alot of the shows were Monkeywrench broadcasts so they sound great, 11/4/95 is one of my favorites. Other than that 11/3/96 in Berlin is a great show one of my favorites. Yield tour has alot of great shows also, too many to name. Use pearljambootlegs.org or preview some of them before you download, also use the Concert Chronology at twofeetthick to check setlists etc..
As far as FLAC/mp3 goes, it depends on what your gonna do with the shows and how much storage space you have to play with.If you are gonna trade and do B&P's or are high on quality use FLAC/SHN, don't pollute the trading pool with mp3s. If you are gonna use em for your own use, get the mp3s. I may add some other show suggestions later if I have time.
Ah media & backup storage!
Tayio Yuden, Sony, Verbatim, TDK, Maxell DVDR's are what I recommend using when backing up audio/video goods. If you're like me, make another backup copy. 2 copies. So if down the road one of the discs don't work, you have another, if anything happens.
Hard Drives. I got's over 7 TB's worth of Pearl Jam goods on Western Digital HD's right now on thy Power House Pearl Jam PC Work Station! Since my first bought WD HD back in '03, haven't had a hickup or error on any of these babies. Doesn't make any loud nosies like the other HD's on the market do. Don't forget what you download from the internet, to make copies to cdr's or dvdr's. Alway's backup your goods.
Audio downloads? Forget MP3 madness collecting people. That's for kids. Download them for personal use only & for your portable MP3 player's. SHN's & Flac's are the way to go. They are uncompressed audio. Unlike the MP3's. You don't make friends with MP3's. In the trading community, SHN's/Flac's/APE's are the audio files you want to collect, to trade, to backup.
Plus get used to using a Torrent. You will find hundreds of live audio (shn/flac) downloads via Torrents. http://bt.etree.org, http://www.dimeadozen.org, http://www.thetradersden.org etc.. are the places to check up. Wanna know of a certain show & if it was taped? Check out http://db.etree.org.
ps .. Aswell, you gotta know the right people. The right connections. Many user's will screw you over in a trade. Many will help & serve you till the end of time. There are alot of good people here that I've known for year's on this message board. In this community. You don't have to search anywhere's else. Believe me.
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San Diego 2006
Gorge 1 2006
Gorge 2005
East Troy 2000
Seattle 1 and 2 2000
Marseille 2006
Zagreb 2006
Mansfield 3 2003
Benaroya Hall 2003 (although taboo because its still available to purchase)
MSG 1 and 2 2003
Newcastle 2006
Philadelphia 2005
That is off the top of my head but it is a pretty good starting point.
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If your having trouble finding any let me know and I should be able to help you out with them. I've cross referenced my bootleg list with the list they have in the "Tours" sections on the main Pearl Jam site. It seems they're list might be a little inaccurate though. There are 2 shows listed that I have not been able to find anywhere, and if you look at the set list for those shows there is none, where as all the other have a full set liste.
-Chris
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EV intro to Chloe Dancer / Crown of Thorns
10/25/13 Hartford
This one too. Everything you need if you don't mind mp3: http://spreadingthejam.blogspot.com/
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
more like a year or 2
it took me 2 years to listen to all the shows and find which ones were worthy to be on my ipod. it helps that i have a 80 gig ipod classic.
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FLAC files have much better sound in my opinion, but it did take me some time to really notice it
You will need a FLAC converter if you dont already know that-FLAC frontend is free and easy
Itunes import using apple loseless if you plan to put them on your ipod-otherwise they get converted to AAC or MP4
external hard drive is a necessity, in fact, get two-one to store media and one to back up your stuff.
you spend hours, days, months even, downloading and and converting-you dont want to lose it to a bad drive-either on the computer in an external
good luck-you are about to head down a path that will consume hours of your free time
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Lyric Opera House-Baltimore, MD--June 14, 2009(Eddie Vedder Solo)
Wachovia Spectrum-Philadelphia, PA--Oct 31, 2009
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This just made me laugh, becuase its TRUE
Also check this site out: http://www.zombtracker.the-zomb.com/
Right now its RATIO FREE, so i suggest you get DOWNLOADING>
I agree with this post %100. LEATHERMOSQUITOMAN was/is a BIG HELP for me(and i'm sure he's been to ALOT of others as well), so you're absolutely right about him. Thanks again LMM......................CUTZ