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The Teachers' Unions that Stole Christmas
The school-choice program for D.C. schoolchildren may end sooner than expected.
by Sheryl Blunt
12/08/2009 12:00:00 AM
As Christmas grows closer, the hopes of thousands of D.C. schoolchildren and their families are appearing dimmer and dimmer, and no one is celebrating more than the teachers' unions.
Congress's failure to reauthorize the federally-funded D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program (OSP), which has provided more than 3,300 schoolchildren scholarships to attend private schools of their choice in the District of Columbia, has proven fatal. The program could end even earlier than expected.
Last week the Washington Scholarship Fund (WSF), the nonprofit organization that administers the program, announced that Congress's failure to act and the Obama administration's unwillingness to let new students participate, means that the WSF will be forced to end its oversight of the program this summer, when the school year ends.
"[E]xisting children and families in the OSP do not know whether they will have access to an Opportunity Scholarship next year, and children and families not now in the program do not know whether they will have the opportunity to participate next year," the organization's board of directors and president wrote in a December 3 letter to U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan. "This makes it virtually impossible for children, families, schools, and WSF to prepare for the time-intensive application and renewal processes so critical to the OSP's sound administration for the 2010-2011 school year. Moreover, it denies these families any educational choice because more often than not, charters are not an option."
Board members predict that the likely fallout will be private school closures that will force many scholarship recipients and other students back into the city's troubled public schools next fall, "requiring the District to absorb the additional fiscal costs of educating
both groups of students."
"Effectively, Congress's failure to act to reauthorize this program will send well over 1,000 children to failing and, too often, unsafe schools," the letter states. "That result would, in our view, constitute a moral failing of the highest order on all of our parts."
With less than a month left before Congress adjourns for its holiday recess, supporters of the program had hoped that their latest ad campaign and lobby effort would convince the Obama administration and key Congressmen like Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) and Rep. José Serrano (D-N.Y.), that the voucher program needs to continue.
"This is the best opportunity kids can have," said Patricia William, whose 12-year-old son Fransoir has used a scholarship to attend a private school in the District since the program's inception in 2004. "Congress has the power to make it happen."
Originally from El Salvador, William became a U.S. citizen in 1996. She said an opportunity scholarship has given her and Fransoir what she hoped to find in America. "This country is about options and education, so give us options as parents," she said. "Don't take away our right to help our kids, especially when this program is working."
But in a November 23 commentary piece for the Washington Post, Rep. Serrano, who chairs the House appropriations subcommittee that oversees the embattled program's funding, reiterated his opposition to letting any more low-income D.C. students benefit from the expiring program. "This is as far as I can go," said Serrano. "I do not support an expansion to include children not currently in the program."
This slammed the door on efforts to resuscitate the program in the House, and the Senate does not appear to have the votes it needs to reauthorize the program.
"People are outraged," said Virginia Walden Ford, executive director of D.C. Parents for School Choice. "It is morally wrong to relegate these children to failing schools."
Archdiocese of Washington spokesperson Kathy Dempsey said seven participating Archdiocese schools recently held meetings with parents to discuss what it would mean if the program is not reauthorized soon.
"It's getting down to the wire and our schools and families need to know what their options are," said Dempsey.
Dempsey added that the District could also lose millions of dollars in desperately-needed funding if the program is not renewed, since the program's implementation was conditioned upon the city's public and charter schools also receiving more money.
"The city could lose $54 million in federal education funding if the program ends, plus $25 million if up to 1,700 [scholarship] children go back to D.C. public schools," said Dempsey. If private schools close, something many believe is likely for a few schools that currently serve a high number of voucher students, even more children will be affected.
One group that won't be bemoaning the voucher programs' end is the teachers' unions. This spring National Education Association President Dennis Van Roekel bluntly reminded Senators that "opposition to vouchers is a top priority for NEA," and warned them that the NEA would be paying keen attention to how they vote on vouchers.
"The National Education Association strongly opposes any extension of the District of Columbia private school voucher ('DC Opportunity Scholarship') program," Van Roekel wrote in a March 5, 2009 letter. "We expect that Members of Congress who support public education, and whom we have supported, will stand firm against any proposal to extend the
pilot program. Actions associated with these issues WILL be included in the NEA Legislative Report Card for the 111th Congress."
The Center for Responsive Politics and the National Institute on Money in State Politics recently released data showing that the NEA topped the chart as the number one national donor during the 2007-08 election cycle, shelling out $57.6 million in combined federal and state contributions. The American Federation of Teachers was number 25, with more than $13 million in contributions.
Mike Antonucci of the Education Intelligence Agency put this in perspective, writing that the NEA's and AFT's 2007-08 contributions meant that "America's two teachers' unions outspent AT&T, Goldman Sachs, Wal-Mart, Microsoft, General Electric, Chevron, Pfizer, Morgan Stanley, Lockheed Martin, FedEx, Boeing, Merrill Lynch, Exxon Mobil, Lehman Brothers, and the Walt Disney Corporation, combined."
The Obama administration--already having trouble explaining why it is doing away with a program its own Department of Education reported has advanced participating children's reading achievement by more than three months--will now have another opportunity to explain to low-income D.C. parents and students why it and the Democrat-led Congress has decided to grant the teachers' unions' wish instead of theirs.
Last February President Obama claimed in a weekly radio address that he would fight special interests. "The system we have now might work for the powerful and well-connected interests that have run Washington for far too long," Obama said. "But I don't. I work for the American people."
D.C. students and parents like William and her son will no doubt see things differently.
Sheryl Henderson Blunt is a Phillips Foundation Journalism Fellow.
Why would these people do this to these kids? The D.C. school district is one of the worst school districs in america,and to deny those kids the opportunity that they have been enjoying and succeeding at for several years now (thanks to a republican president and congress) 99% of these kids are poor,black,and hispanic. Where's the party that says they stand for the elderly ,minorities ,and poor people? Where is the party that says they stand for fairness and justice ? Where you at Reid ? Where you at Pelosi
The school-choice program for D.C. schoolchildren may end sooner than expected.
by Sheryl Blunt
12/08/2009 12:00:00 AM
As Christmas grows closer, the hopes of thousands of D.C. schoolchildren and their families are appearing dimmer and dimmer, and no one is celebrating more than the teachers' unions.
Congress's failure to reauthorize the federally-funded D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program (OSP), which has provided more than 3,300 schoolchildren scholarships to attend private schools of their choice in the District of Columbia, has proven fatal. The program could end even earlier than expected.
Last week the Washington Scholarship Fund (WSF), the nonprofit organization that administers the program, announced that Congress's failure to act and the Obama administration's unwillingness to let new students participate, means that the WSF will be forced to end its oversight of the program this summer, when the school year ends.
"[E]xisting children and families in the OSP do not know whether they will have access to an Opportunity Scholarship next year, and children and families not now in the program do not know whether they will have the opportunity to participate next year," the organization's board of directors and president wrote in a December 3 letter to U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan. "This makes it virtually impossible for children, families, schools, and WSF to prepare for the time-intensive application and renewal processes so critical to the OSP's sound administration for the 2010-2011 school year. Moreover, it denies these families any educational choice because more often than not, charters are not an option."
Board members predict that the likely fallout will be private school closures that will force many scholarship recipients and other students back into the city's troubled public schools next fall, "requiring the District to absorb the additional fiscal costs of educating
both groups of students."
"Effectively, Congress's failure to act to reauthorize this program will send well over 1,000 children to failing and, too often, unsafe schools," the letter states. "That result would, in our view, constitute a moral failing of the highest order on all of our parts."
With less than a month left before Congress adjourns for its holiday recess, supporters of the program had hoped that their latest ad campaign and lobby effort would convince the Obama administration and key Congressmen like Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) and Rep. José Serrano (D-N.Y.), that the voucher program needs to continue.
"This is the best opportunity kids can have," said Patricia William, whose 12-year-old son Fransoir has used a scholarship to attend a private school in the District since the program's inception in 2004. "Congress has the power to make it happen."
Originally from El Salvador, William became a U.S. citizen in 1996. She said an opportunity scholarship has given her and Fransoir what she hoped to find in America. "This country is about options and education, so give us options as parents," she said. "Don't take away our right to help our kids, especially when this program is working."
But in a November 23 commentary piece for the Washington Post, Rep. Serrano, who chairs the House appropriations subcommittee that oversees the embattled program's funding, reiterated his opposition to letting any more low-income D.C. students benefit from the expiring program. "This is as far as I can go," said Serrano. "I do not support an expansion to include children not currently in the program."
This slammed the door on efforts to resuscitate the program in the House, and the Senate does not appear to have the votes it needs to reauthorize the program.
"People are outraged," said Virginia Walden Ford, executive director of D.C. Parents for School Choice. "It is morally wrong to relegate these children to failing schools."
Archdiocese of Washington spokesperson Kathy Dempsey said seven participating Archdiocese schools recently held meetings with parents to discuss what it would mean if the program is not reauthorized soon.
"It's getting down to the wire and our schools and families need to know what their options are," said Dempsey.
Dempsey added that the District could also lose millions of dollars in desperately-needed funding if the program is not renewed, since the program's implementation was conditioned upon the city's public and charter schools also receiving more money.
"The city could lose $54 million in federal education funding if the program ends, plus $25 million if up to 1,700 [scholarship] children go back to D.C. public schools," said Dempsey. If private schools close, something many believe is likely for a few schools that currently serve a high number of voucher students, even more children will be affected.
One group that won't be bemoaning the voucher programs' end is the teachers' unions. This spring National Education Association President Dennis Van Roekel bluntly reminded Senators that "opposition to vouchers is a top priority for NEA," and warned them that the NEA would be paying keen attention to how they vote on vouchers.
"The National Education Association strongly opposes any extension of the District of Columbia private school voucher ('DC Opportunity Scholarship') program," Van Roekel wrote in a March 5, 2009 letter. "We expect that Members of Congress who support public education, and whom we have supported, will stand firm against any proposal to extend the
pilot program. Actions associated with these issues WILL be included in the NEA Legislative Report Card for the 111th Congress."
The Center for Responsive Politics and the National Institute on Money in State Politics recently released data showing that the NEA topped the chart as the number one national donor during the 2007-08 election cycle, shelling out $57.6 million in combined federal and state contributions. The American Federation of Teachers was number 25, with more than $13 million in contributions.
Mike Antonucci of the Education Intelligence Agency put this in perspective, writing that the NEA's and AFT's 2007-08 contributions meant that "America's two teachers' unions outspent AT&T, Goldman Sachs, Wal-Mart, Microsoft, General Electric, Chevron, Pfizer, Morgan Stanley, Lockheed Martin, FedEx, Boeing, Merrill Lynch, Exxon Mobil, Lehman Brothers, and the Walt Disney Corporation, combined."
The Obama administration--already having trouble explaining why it is doing away with a program its own Department of Education reported has advanced participating children's reading achievement by more than three months--will now have another opportunity to explain to low-income D.C. parents and students why it and the Democrat-led Congress has decided to grant the teachers' unions' wish instead of theirs.
Last February President Obama claimed in a weekly radio address that he would fight special interests. "The system we have now might work for the powerful and well-connected interests that have run Washington for far too long," Obama said. "But I don't. I work for the American people."
D.C. students and parents like William and her son will no doubt see things differently.
Sheryl Henderson Blunt is a Phillips Foundation Journalism Fellow.
Why would these people do this to these kids? The D.C. school district is one of the worst school districs in america,and to deny those kids the opportunity that they have been enjoying and succeeding at for several years now (thanks to a republican president and congress) 99% of these kids are poor,black,and hispanic. Where's the party that says they stand for the elderly ,minorities ,and poor people? Where is the party that says they stand for fairness and justice ? Where you at Reid ? Where you at Pelosi
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I don't think you can simply blame one person for this, more so than anything it's bureacratic failure. I do find it funny that people come out of the wood-works to harp on the smallest of problems when their party's leader isn't running the office or show. And who gives a crap whether its for christmas or any old program which effects people on a small, personal level. Quite frankly, I find it humorous when the far right yells and screams about programs being cut by Dems even though they do far worse for social programs overall, and have motto's like "pull yourself up by the boot strings" and others which imply milking the system by lazy, poor people.CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis0 -
Yeah, I guess they need that money to fund that ACORN ....“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln0
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aerial wrote:Yeah, I guess they need that money to fund that ACORN ....
NEWS FLASH....ACORN is no longer receiving federal money. please try to keep up with the news...."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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gimmesometruth27 wrote:aerial wrote:Yeah, I guess they need that money to fund that ACORN ....
NEWS FLASH....ACORN is no longer receiving federal money. please try to keep up with the news....
ACORN has hundreds of different little LLC's operating out of the same office. So they have several tax-exempt organizations....they just have different names....Hell the guy that founded ACORN has a Masters in “Grant Writing”. Wake up!“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln0 -
aerial wrote:gimmesometruth27 wrote:aerial wrote:Yeah, I guess they need that money to fund that ACORN ....
NEWS FLASH....ACORN is no longer receiving federal money. please try to keep up with the news....
ACORN has hundreds of different little LLC's operating out of the same office. So they have several tax-exempt organizations....they just have different names....Hell the guy that founded ACORN has a Masters in “Grant Writing”. Wake up!
got anything to back that up besides glenn beck or a blog?? i am sure that some of us could stand to be enlightened if you have some info that the rest of us have not heard.
i am wide awake. awake enough to know that congress cut off all federal funding to ACORN over a month ago. it was a big story in the newspapers and the news websites. that must not have been reported on fox though....."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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...prfctlefts wrote:Why would these people do this to these kids? The D.C. school district is one of the worst school districs in america,and to deny those kids the opportunity that they have been enjoying and succeeding at for several years now (thanks to a republican president and congress) 99% of these kids are poor,black,and hispanic. Where's the party that says they stand for the elderly ,minorities ,and poor people? Where is the party that says they stand for fairness and justice ? Where you at Reid ? Where you at Pelosi
This sounds like you support this Government funded, with taxpayer dollars, socialist program to distribute the wealth.
If so... you just tagged yourself with the 'Liberal' label.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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...aerial wrote:ACORN has hundreds of different little LLC's operating out of the same office. So they have several tax-exempt organizations....they just have different names....Hell the guy that founded ACORN has a Masters in “Grant Writing”. Wake up!
What ever happened with that FOX News Investigative Report on that ACORN sting operation? Can you please provide us with an update?
Thanx.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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Cosmo wrote:...
What ever happened with that FOX News Investigative Report on that ACORN sting operation? Can you please provide us with an update?
Thanx.
Probably the same place that Michelle Obama "Whitey" tape is that was promised over and over again.My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
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...blackredyellow wrote:Cosmo wrote:...
What ever happened with that FOX News Investigative Report on that ACORN sting operation? Can you please provide us with an update?
Thanx.
Probably the same place that Michelle Obama "Whitey" tape is that was promised over and over again.
That too. Remember the ACORN thing was going to be Earth Shattering news...
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So... I wonder... what ever happened to it? Is it still in the works... or did it shrivel up, back to it's original flacid two inch state? What became of this?Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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So not one person has said a damn thing about what's going to happen to these kids.Instead It's turned into another typical thred on the MT. That's pretty sad..
Oh by the way here's another story that proves that the government could care less about our kids. You'll really love this. Especially all of you that think the govenment can do no harm when it comes to domestic issues.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/ ... ards_N.htm0 -
Where were you during the Republican years when Reagan, Bush Sr and Jr ignored social issues and further ingored or egnighted social issues? Don't be a johnny come lately in which you simply complain bout the latest guy doing the deed. That's pathetic.prfctlefts wrote:So not one person has said a damn thing about what's going to happen to these kids.Instead It's turned into another typical thred on the MT. That's pretty sad..
Oh by the way here's another story that proves that the government could care less about our kids. You'll really love this. Especially all of you that think the govenment can do no harm when it comes to domestic issues.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/ ... ards_N.htmCONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis0 -
What do you mean where was I ? :wtf: I was probably out at the beach enjoying my youth. Where the hell were you ? You just proved my point. See this is what people like you do best. Instead of actually discussing the issue you pull this dumb ass shit. Just so you know, I didn't even start paying attention to politics untill after 911 happened and I"ve only been posting here since june 08,and yes Im very well aware that the repukes have done some bad things,but that's in the past and there is nothing we can do about it now.Or maybe your just living in the past. Or are you just going to give this current administration a pass since you voted for them ? The real Question is do you care about these kids or not. Im willing to bet not. Which is kinda funny because didn't you start a thread about people not caring anymore ? So who's the one that looks like a hypocrite ?0
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prfctlefts wrote:So not one person has said a damn thing about what's going to happen to these kids.Instead It's turned into another typical thred on the MT. That's pretty sad..
Oh by the way here's another story that proves that the government could care less about our kids. You'll really love this. Especially all of you that think the govenment can do no harm when it comes to domestic issues.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/ ... ards_N.htm
slow down, my friend...it's not that anyone doesn't care about these kids, I think you turned into a partisian issue by complaining about "the party who" does this that and the other...and bringing up Reid and Pelosi into the discussion...
to be honest, when I first read this, I thought "hmm, isn't this socialism" and "I wonder what our teabagger friends think about this"....
as I scrolled down, I see one of the teabaggers brings up Acorn...which leads me to believe the only reason this is being discussed is because Obama is in the Whitehouse...0 -
inmytree wrote:prfctlefts wrote:So not one person has said a damn thing about what's going to happen to these kids.Instead It's turned into another typical thred on the MT. That's pretty sad..
Oh by the way here's another story that proves that the government could care less about our kids. You'll really love this. Especially all of you that think the govenment can do no harm when it comes to domestic issues.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/ ... ards_N.htm
slow down, my friend...it's not that anyone doesn't care about these kids, I think you turned into a partisian issue by complaining about "the party who" does this that and the other...and bringing up Reid and Pelosi into the discussion...
to be honest, when I first read this, I thought "hmm, isn't this socialism" and "I wonder what our teabagger friends think about this"....
as I scrolled down, I see one of the teabaggers brings up Acorn...which leads me to believe the only reason this is being discussed is because Obama is in the Whitehouse...
inmytree you read my mind. i was thinking the same thing. i think the only reason the OP "cares about the kids" is because obama is in the office. based on many of his other posts it seems he cares only of himself and he is now taking up this issue to try to prove that he stands for something when in actuality it is just another excuse to bash obama and the democrats in congress.
also acorn was brought up because aerial has nothing else to say other than to attack this administration for its past transgressions that it has since rectified. acorn is no longer eligible for federal funding."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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so you are saying you only began to pay attention to politics when a bunch of brown people flew airplanes into our buildings? did you buy the crap that they attacked us for our freedom?? if you never paid attention before then i am guessing that you did. that is a very negative event, so maybe you are associating all politicians with that event? so what if you have only been posting for 18 months, just stop making excuses and don't claim naievete' when you say something that gets you flamed on the board. you are old enough to look into issues and make your own opinions without posting blogs or other people's thoughts. you are really quick to throw around the H word, but isn't this issue you are now supporting socialism??prfctlefts wrote:What do you mean where was I ? :wtf: I was probably out at the beach enjoying my youth. Where the hell were you ? You just proved my point. See this is what people like you do best. Instead of actually discussing the issue you pull this dumb ass shit. Just so you know, I didn't even start paying attention to politics untill after 911 happened and I"ve only been posting here since june 08,and yes Im very well aware that the repukes have done some bad things,but that's in the past and there is nothing we can do about it now.Or maybe your just living in the past. Or are you just going to give this current administration a pass since you voted for them ? The real Question is do you care about these kids or not. Im willing to bet not. Which is kinda funny because didn't you start a thread about people not caring anymore ? So who's the one that looks like a hypocrite ?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Firstly, you are the one who took this story and turned it into a partisan discussion which prompted me to respond in the manner I did.
Secondly and truthfully, I do not care, but not for the reason you're alluding too. I do not care because everyone in our nation has the opportunity and has every means available to make the nation and world around us so very wonderful, yet doesn't. They instead want to rely on the government officials to fix things, yet don't do their part to keep the government and system working properly. So when I read a story like this, I think one thing, these people are in programs like this because of the system around them. I don't delude myself into thinking our system gives everyone a fair shake or the opportunity to make things even and level... instead it is setup to have a small elite bunch of winners, some holding their own in the middle and a whole lot of losers scrapping to get by. I don't simply blame a party or official, I don't simply blame the people, I recogize they are mere casualties of the failed system and society around them.prfctlefts wrote:What do you mean where was I ? :wtf: I was probably out at the beach enjoying my youth. Where the hell were you ? You just proved my point. See this is what people like you do best. Instead of actually discussing the issue you pull this dumb ass shit. Just so you know, I didn't even start paying attention to politics untill after 911 happened and I"ve only been posting here since june 08,and yes Im very well aware that the repukes have done some bad things,but that's in the past and there is nothing we can do about it now.Or maybe your just living in the past. Or are you just going to give this current administration a pass since you voted for them ? The real Question is do you care about these kids or not. Im willing to bet not. Which is kinda funny because didn't you start a thread about people not caring anymore ? So who's the one that looks like a hypocrite ?CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis0 -
Can you prove it wrong?gimmesometruth2] got anything to back that up besides glenn beck or a blog?? i am sure that some of us could stand to be enlightened if you have some info that the rest of us have not heard.
i am wide awake. awake enough to know that congress cut off all federal funding to ACORN over a month ago. it was a big story in the newspapers and the news websites. that must not have been reported on fox though....“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln0 -
Since when did free education become socialism? Americans have a right to free education.gimmesometruth27 wrote:
so you are saying you only began to pay attention to politics when a bunch of brown people flew airplanes into our buildings? did you buy the crap that they attacked us for our freedom?? if you never paid attention before then i am guessing that you did. that is a very negative event, so maybe you are associating all politicians with that event? so what if you have only been posting for 18 months, just stop making excuses and don't claim naievete' when you say something that gets you flamed on the board. you are old enough to look into issues and make your own opinions without posting blogs or other people's thoughts. you are really quick to throw around the H word, but isn't this issue you are now supporting socialism??prfctlefts wrote:What do you mean where was I ? :wtf: I was probably out at the beach enjoying my youth. Where the hell were you ? You just proved my point. See this is what people like you do best. Instead of actually discussing the issue you pull this dumb ass shit. Just so you know, I didn't even start paying attention to politics untill after 911 happened and I"ve only been posting here since june 08,and yes Im very well aware that the repukes have done some bad things,but that's in the past and there is nothing we can do about it now.Or maybe your just living in the past. Or are you just going to give this current administration a pass since you voted for them ? The real Question is do you care about these kids or not. Im willing to bet not. Which is kinda funny because didn't you start a thread about people not caring anymore ? So who's the one that looks like a hypocrite ?
We may as well post the link or article right from the start....why wait till you ask for a link?“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln0 -
FiveB247x wrote:Firstly, you are the one who took this story and turned it into a partisan discussion which prompted me to respond in the manner I did.
Secondly and truthfully, I do not care, but not for the reason you're alluding too. I do not care because everyone in our nation has the opportunity and has every means available to make the nation and world around us so very wonderful, yet doesn't. They instead want to rely on the government officials to fix things, yet don't do their part to keep the government and system working properly. So when I read a story like this, I think one thing, these people are in programs like this because of the system around them. I don't delude myself into thinking our system gives everyone a fair shake or the opportunity to make things even and level... instead it is setup to have a small elite bunch of winners, some holding their own in the middle and a whole lot of losers scrapping to get by. I don't simply blame a party or official, I don't simply blame the people, I recogize they are mere casualties of the failed system and society around them.
Please fill me in on how to make the world around us wonderful, also I would like all information on how to keep the government and the system working properly.“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln0 -
Don't mean to sound dismissive or ignore your question, but I've already discussed this issue in the below thread. There's nothing more to explain, it's all pretty much here... so Please feel free to read and respond.
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=117265aerial wrote:Please fill me in on how to make the world around us wonderful, also I would like all information on how to keep the government and the system working properly.CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis0
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