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  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,540
    See Greg Popovich, thats how you do it Mr. Thibs........
  • dcfaithful
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    81 wrote:
    it was a 5 year 75M deal. 3 years @ $15m a pop left.

    bulls cap is pretty much shot when you add in Noah, Boozer, Deng and Rose. 55-60M tied up in the those 4


    Unfortunately, the only way Boozer is leaving the Bulls is if they use the amnesty clause on him which won't be happening anytime soon.

    Let me make sure I understand the amnesty thing correctly; if a team uses the amnesty clause on a player (in this case, Carlos Boozer), then that means that the team can clear said players remaining salary from all of their cap and tax purposes? So, the Bulls could clear themselves of $45 million that they are obligated to pay Boozer over the next three years if they don't amnesty him?

    Is a team allowed 1 amnesty per season?

    I don't think Boozer is terrible per se, but I think his price tag is way too high. Some of that falls on Bulls management for agreeing to such a large contract with him. Obviously they expected more out of him...
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  • 81
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    dcfaithful wrote:
    81 wrote:
    it was a 5 year 75M deal. 3 years @ $15m a pop left.

    bulls cap is pretty much shot when you add in Noah, Boozer, Deng and Rose. 55-60M tied up in the those 4


    Unfortunately, the only way Boozer is leaving the Bulls is if they use the amnesty clause on him which won't be happening anytime soon.

    Let me make sure I understand the amnesty thing correctly; if a team uses the amnesty clause on a player (in this case, Carlos Boozer), then that means that the team can clear said players remaining salary from all of their cap and tax purposes? So, the Bulls could clear themselves of $45 million that they are obligated to pay Boozer over the next three years if they don't amnesty him?

    Is a team allowed 1 amnesty per season?

    I don't think Boozer is terrible per se, but I think his price tag is way too high. Some of that falls on Bulls management for agreeing to such a large contract with him. Obviously they expected more out of him...


    pretty much you waive him and then other teams get to bid on him. whatever they bid, is what they pay on his contract, with the remaining being picked up by the waiving club.

    i believe it's a one time only bid. ie, you submit your bid to the league only once, highest bid wins. werid. they should just put them up on ebay with a buy it now
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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,909
    81 wrote:

    pretty much you waive him and then other teams get to bid on him. whatever they bid, is what they pay on his contract, with the remaining being picked up by the waiving club.

    i believe it's a one time only bid. ie, you submit your bid to the league only once, highest bid wins. werid. they should just put them up on ebay with a buy it now


    I'm pretty sure each team gets to use 1 amnesty clause for the duration of the CBA that was agreed to last year....not sure how many years that was.
  • dcfaithful
    dcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    81 wrote:

    pretty much you waive him and then other teams get to bid on him. whatever they bid, is what they pay on his contract, with the remaining being picked up by the waiving club.

    i believe it's a one time only bid. ie, you submit your bid to the league only once, highest bid wins. werid. they should just put them up on ebay with a buy it now


    I'm pretty sure each team gets to use 1 amnesty clause for the duration of the CBA that was agreed to last year....not sure how many years that was.

    I think it was either 5 or 6 years.
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  • 81
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    i thought it was a 10 year deal with an opt out after 6...or was that the nfl
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  • maynardsux
    maynardsux Posts: 1,100
    :( :fp: Doctor announced today Rose could be out anywhere from 8-12 months!!
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  • 81
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    maynardsux wrote:
    :( :fp: Doctor announced today Rose could be out anywhere from 8-12 months!!
    why the faceplant? we already knew the earliest he would be back would be early 2013. it was really a no news news release

    i took it as good news. surgery went well, unlike when greg oden went in last year and they needed to do anouther microfracture procedure
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  • maynardsux
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    I just don't like the idea that they found a cartilage tear as well which means that even though he could return as early as Feb.1, there is also the strong possibility that he may not even play at all next year, that timeline scares me, but am thankful that the surgery was a success :D ...just not a good time to be a Chicago fan, especially after watching the Sox manage that 6 run lead today :? and thanks for not playing A.J. today btw ;)
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  • 81
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    maynardsux wrote:
    I just don't like the idea that they found a cartilage tear as well which means that even though he could return as early as Feb.1, there is also the strong possibility that he may not even play at all next year, that timeline scares me, but am thankful that the surgery was a success :D ...just not a good time to be a Chicago fan, especially after watching the Sox manage that 6 run lead today :? and thanks for not playing A.J. today btw ;)

    now that deserves a :fp:

    he's been cold lately so i benched him. :fp:
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  • 81
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    http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... ati01.html


    if you look at his stats....a complete season is missing in the early 90's.....due to an ACL.
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  • 81
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    good to see the Bobcats miss out on the 1st pick.

    bulls have the bobcats first pick in one of the next 4 drafts. next three are protected thru 12, 10, 8 (i belive) over the next 3 years then in 2016 we get whatever it is.

    We could see a lot of new talent come in in the next 5 years with this pick and that guy who is playing in spain.
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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,909
    81 wrote:
    good to see the Bobcats miss out on the 1st pick.

    bulls have the bobcats first pick in one of the next 4 drafts. next three are protected thru 12, 10, 8 (i belive) over the next 3 years then in 2016 we get whatever it is.

    We could see a lot of new talent come in in the next 5 years with this pick and that guy who is playing in spain.


    That's from the Tyrus Thomas trade, right? Can't believe the Bulls will eventually get a 1st round pick for that dope.
  • 81
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    81 wrote:
    good to see the Bobcats miss out on the 1st pick.

    bulls have the bobcats first pick in one of the next 4 drafts. next three are protected thru 12, 10, 8 (i belive) over the next 3 years then in 2016 we get whatever it is.

    We could see a lot of new talent come in in the next 5 years with this pick and that guy who is playing in spain.


    That's from the Tyrus Thomas trade, right? Can't believe the Bulls will eventually get a 1st round pick for that dope.

    yup...hopefully bobcats continue to suck and we get the number overall in 2016. i can wait.
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    you wanna go golfing tommorrow
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  • davidtrios
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    edited June 2012
    former nba player and current warriors scout speedy claxton was seen at the british national team practice in houston looking at deng.

    the rumor is deng for the 7th pick.

    i hate this idea of losing deng for a coin flip prospect. luol is the bulls' best defender and is still only 27. this would suck
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  • 81
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    KC at the tribune says Deng chances of going to GS are zero.
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  • davidtrios
    davidtrios Posts: 9,732
    81 wrote:
    KC at the tribune says Deng chances of going to GS are zero.


    you never replied. do you really think youk is 'barely' out hitting o dog?