More Troops to be Deployed- Will Ed Protest?
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It was understandable that he was against the Iraq War- most people were and for good reason. But, now that a liberal President wants to finish the job in Afganistan to once and for all take out Bin Laden, will Ed support this? Will you?
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it doesn't matter what ed thinks. i am not going to speculate as to how he feels or if he will protest because it does not matter. be your own person and don't wait for what ed does before you decide how you feel. as far as me, i am so fucking over these wars...
we don't have money for health care, yet when it comes to bombin' and killin' we can find it... what a joke....
last night obama lost my support and my vote for re-election...
change we can believe in, yeah right...
his slogan should have been "same policies, different party"....
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Bullet point 1:
"Barack Obama will defeat terrorism worldwide:
Obama and Biden will find, disrupt, and destroy al Qaeda"
I've asked it before with no response... does anyone know if bin Laden is actually in Afghanistan? I thought he was more likely to be in Pakistan? :?:
I didn't watch his speech at West Point ( I try to stay out of this shit... oh dear me )... did he say WHY we are fighting in Afghanistan? To defeat Al-Qaeda? Stabilize their government? Both?
I just don't think Al-Qaeda can be "defeated" by fighting them in any single country. It is an international network and as soon as we escalate the troops in Afghanistan they'll pop up in Pakistan or Somalia or Yemen. Actually thats already happened. If we kill all the bad guys in Afghanistan, will the members of Al-Qaeda in the other countries give up too?
So, the question is not if you support the war in Afghanistan, but if you support a decades long conflict in numerous countries across Asia and Africa. Personally, I do not. I think there are better alternatives that will not cost nearly as many lives or trillions of dollars. We are not the policemen of the world.
Most seem to think Pakistan
Both and get rid of the Taliban
We have to defeat them. We don't have a choice unless you think that they wont try to attack us again.There are cells world wide but hopefully with all of our technology,resources, and our brave men and women we can get rid of these dirt bags once and for all. One 911 was enough.
WWII did not stop genocide once and for all. What makes you think we can ever get rid of terrorism once and for all? Do you even have any idea who the dirt bags actually are that you're talking about? Do you think Al-Quaeda is the only group that wants or is willing to plan an attack like 9/11?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfBSXbuQ ... r_embedded
Great tag- I wish he still had this passion when they play Porch :shock:
I WAS for the Afghanistan war back in 2001/2002 because the Taliban was in full control of the government and openly housing Al Qaeda trainning camps and headquarters.
Bush fucked it all up by diverting resources towards Iraq and neglecting the efforts to stabalize Afghanistan. I was NEVER for the Iraq War.
Because of the neglect, Afghanistan has deteriorated into a situation that is even more fucked up. The corrupt Karzai government in place (that we pretty much installed over there) and the Pakistan connections have made this place a lost cause. Our decisions to place Afghanistan on the back burners has weakened the resolve of our NATO Allies... and I don't blame them for pulling out. If we aren't seroius about it... why should they be?
And what does 'Winning' mean in Afghanistan? Someone needs to explain to me how do we know when we have 'Won'. What are the milestones? What is the outlook? What is 'Winning'?
I say... withdraw and contain. Afghanistan will not change until the people of Afghanistan want to change. I cannot see US changing their culture to anything they don't want to be. They have a proud tradition and heritage of turning back some of the greatest Empires and military armies of history. To them.. are we just another Empire in line? I don't know.
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As for Ed... it doesn't matter to me what he thinks about Afghanistan, Obama or whatever. All I know is I oppose President Obama's decision here... we lost Afghanistan the minute we went into Iraq.
Hail, Hail!!!
yeah and there have been no genocides since then eh?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
every one we kill has sons or relatives that will wage jihad on us to avenge the loss of their loved one.
winning a war on terror is about as possible as winning a war on stupidity. neither can be won.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I'm having a really hard time being respectful with my response.
The idea that Nader had anything to do with Gore not being able to landslide a terrible opponant is simply ignorant. That's not name-calling. Look it up.
Nader is not to blame for Gore's inept campaign. In fact, I've read studies that show the exact opposite. That Nader's involvement actually helped Gore make better decisions, which would make him more appealing to liberals.
It's silly that anyone even believes our involvement in the middle-east has to to with terroism.
Obama is a crooked criminal dirtbag who is looking after his friends and family, true to the politician form. Shame on him and shame on his supporters.
The thing is - we all knew he would send more troops to Afghanistan. That he would "escalate" the war. And the dumb American population STILL voted for him.
This is partly why Bush won- Nader earned a lot of liberal votes that would otherwise went to Al Gore.
Can't say it any simpler than that. Amen.
Either way, my vote is for Ed NOT protesting the deployment of troops based on the fact that during his campaign Obama said this is what he would do and Ed supported him then.
To be clear - I do NOT support Obama's godawful decision to send even more American boys and girls into the hellish and harmful middle-east. I'm embarrassed at times like these that I am even an American citizen. What a mess this is for us, for the world, and what a mess my country is in to support this guy because he uses the word "change" and has no idea what the fuck that even means.
Its a shame. 30,000 more kids will die, getting their heads blown off. This fact doesnt trouble Obama.
Every president since Truman should be tried according to the Nuremburg laws. Tried, Shot and Hung.
I have no sympathy for anyone who is for this war.
I have no sympathy for YOUR president. I didnt vote for him. He aint mine.
Agreed. I like what Michael Moore said on Larry King Live. Bring back the draft, but only draft the children of those in the top 5% income bracket. Because if the wealthy have to send their kids over to war, there wouldn't be many wars.
Whats scary is the mentality that we can win the war on terror, is shared by just about every republican and democrat in office, including obama.
That is not how I recall it. My recollection is that the majority of Americans supported the war(based on the lies told by the Bush administration) and that I was in the minority at that time. Those who did not support the war were portrayed as unpatriotic.
I don't know if Ed will protest. He's been vocal about bringing troops home and I guess the idea of sending more people over there now is to get it sorted out and bring everyone home once and for all instead of having it drag on and on.
R.i.p. My Dad - May 28, 2007
R.i.p. Black Tail (cat) - Sept. 20, 2008
The fact that most presidents like Obama and senators can vote to allow this, and can evidently sleep at night, is disturbing in many ways.
Anyone who is sending kids to die in Iraq or Afghanistan, Obama included, will spend their afterlife in hell, with Hitler and Mussolini and all the other evil people.
That's a tad extreme
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