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Where are the Philly boots?!

GTF13GTF13 Posts: 29
edited May 2010 in Given To Fly (live)
Hopefully the delay is due to something special, packaging wise maybe........The fan recorded versions can only hold a brotha for so long!! :)
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  • WhyNotSwedenWhyNotSweden Sweden Posts: 4,307
    They do VINYLS of the Philli shows and thats why it takes some time....

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  • SOLAT319SOLAT319 Posts: 4,594
    WhynotSweden wrote:
    They do VINYLS of the Philli shows and thats why it takes some time....

    Viva la vinyl

    You're trying to be funny there but it would actually be awesome. Of course it will never happen.
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  • satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,139
    there on my feet
  • GTF13GTF13 Posts: 29
    i'd be dig-ity down with that!!! spin the black, spin the black...
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  • JMcDowell3636JMcDowell3636 Posts: 246
    Maybe all four bootlegs and a dvd of songs over the four nights. just throwing out ideas. i was at night 2 and 4 and i want my bootlegs.
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  • NieraNiera Posts: 208
    Please in time for Christmas?

    Pretty please?
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  • davidtriosdavidtrios Posts: 9,732
    bsbplyr wrote:
    Maybe all four bootlegs and a dvd of songs over the four nights. just throwing out ideas. i was at night 2 and 4 and i want my bootlegs.

    So sorry you missed night 3
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    we wait as we did for Europe ones
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  • DeepPJDeepPJ Posts: 40
    First, although I read a lot, I don't post much because it's just not my style so I hope no one takes offense...

    I too have been looking a couple of times a day bc of all of the shows I've been to (about 20 now), I have never so anxiously awaited the boot and I've been puzzling about it too esp. since the Aussie boots are up but I had a thought. Although you can play a song live without trouble with licensing, when you package it and sell it, it's a different story, particularly if you are making any profit from it. PJ played "Whip It" at the Halloween show for the first time, and so I am wondering if maybe they are having licensing problems with Devo or whomever is the manager of Devo's licensing. Just a thought this attorney (although not an entertainment law atty) had. This would only explain that show, but maybe they want to release them all at the same time?

    And for the record, I am really hoping this isn't the case and it's the totally awesome packaging/vinyl/4show set that's causing the delay. :D
  • Evacuation RulesEvacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    I'm getting pretty fucking sick of waiting. At least the Europeans had radio broadcasts to tide them over.
  • ryanevolutionryanevolution Posts: 782
    DeepPJ wrote:
    Although you can play a song live without trouble with licensing, when you package it and sell it, it's a different story, particularly if you are making any profit from it. PJ played "Whip It" at the Halloween show for the first time, and so I am wondering if maybe they are having licensing problems with Devo or whomever is the manager of Devo's licensing.

    That, i think, is a good point. :problem: Hopefully this is not the case.
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  • PJU2PJU2 Sacramento Posts: 34
    Licensing would not be the issues with Devo's whip it. You can "cover" a song all you want after it has been 7 or more years since the song was originally recorded. You also must license a song if you sample it. Obviouslly there are no samples here, so my felow PJ fans i belive we have clearance.

    My guess is a Gorge type package and hopefully with a DVD
  • NieraNiera Posts: 208
    Yeah, special packaging would be sweet--a DVD would ROCK... still.. in time for Christmas?

    Pretty please with sugar on top?

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  • walknthecowwalknthecow Posts: 35
    I was guessing some kind of package as well or at least hoping, definitely cool with waiting especially if there is a dvd involved.
  • DeepPJDeepPJ Posts: 40
    Unfortunately, it's way more complicated than 7 years. The key is whether you are making a profit.

    Different bands have different licensing rules and the licensing can be sold and bought and extend well beyond the initial period. In terms of the copywrite law, music Created 1978 or later (whether or not published) is protected until the life of the author(s) plus 70 years (17 USC sec. 303(b).)

    That's a bunch of legalese and like I said, I don't know if it's the reason there is a delay, but if you look on iTunes, it seems there is no cover of Whip it that wasn't recorded by some variation of Devo. That's why there are bands from ages ago that you still can't cover for profit, or at least, who can't be covered for any reasonable amount of money.

    just my thoughts...
  • ryanevolutionryanevolution Posts: 782
    DeepPJ wrote:
    Unfortunately, it's way more complicated than 7 years. The key is whether you are making a profit.

    Different bands have different licensing rules and the licensing can be sold and bought and extend well beyond the initial period. In terms of the copywrite law, music Created 1978 or later (whether or not published) is protected until the life of the author(s) plus 70 years (17 USC sec. 303(b).)

    That's a bunch of legalese and like I said, I don't know if it's the reason there is a delay, but if you look on iTunes, it seems there is no cover of Whip it that wasn't recorded by some variation of Devo. That's why there are bands from ages ago that you still can't cover for profit, or at least, who can't be covered for any reasonable amount of money.

    just my thoughts...

    Thanks for the quick research! Good work. So again...it may be a problem... :|


    ...Hey just found this from Mark Mothersbaugh, Devo founder...
    "On Pearl Jam’s live cover of “Whip It” on Halloween: “I haven’t seen it yet. About six months ago I had dinner with a couple of the guys, and we talked about doing a Christmas ‘45,’ because I guess they do one every year.

    They said, ‘Hey, what if we put a Pearl Jam Christmas song on one side and a Devo Christmas song on the other side?’ I don’t know. I’m scared of the Nativity, so I’ve kind of pushed it out of my mind. But who knows, maybe next year for Halloween, Devo will go as Pearl Jam.”
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    DeepPJ wrote:
    First, although I read a lot, I don't post much because it's just not my style so I hope no one takes offense...

    I too have been looking a couple of times a day bc of all of the shows I've been to (about 20 now), I have never so anxiously awaited the boot and I've been puzzling about it too esp. since the Aussie boots are up but I had a thought. Although you can play a song live without trouble with licensing, when you package it and sell it, it's a different story, particularly if you are making any profit from it. PJ played "Whip It" at the Halloween show for the first time, and so I am wondering if maybe they are having licensing problems with Devo or whomever is the manager of Devo's licensing. Just a thought this attorney (although not an entertainment law atty) had. This would only explain that show, but maybe they want to release them all at the same time?

    And for the record, I am really hoping this isn't the case and it's the totally awesome packaging/vinyl/4show set that's causing the delay. :D

    I was just going to write the same thing. I think the Devo thing might be right.
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  • Random_WookieRandom_Wookie Posts: 1,099
    NO BOOTS FOR YOU
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    really they will be out soon, i hope for a dvd like live at the garden which would be awesome
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    the Philly boots are late couse they gonna give them for free to the Europe fans next year in the Euro Tour!!
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  • RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    ryanevolution wrote:
    DeepPJ wrote:
    Although you can play a song live without trouble with licensing, when you package it and sell it, it's a different story, particularly if you are making any profit from it. PJ played "Whip It" at the Halloween show for the first time, and so I am wondering if maybe they are having licensing problems with Devo or whomever is the manager of Devo's licensing.

    That, i think, is a good point. :problem: Hopefully this is not the case.

    They have played covers numerous times and sold the boots for profit. They aren't selling the song, it's the show.
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    let's go ahead and give this thread a bump.
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  • davidtriosdavidtrios Posts: 9,732
    I'm trying to supress my desire for Philly boots but it's too hard. I need 10/30/09 NOW!
  • RubberbandmanRubberbandman Posts: 439
    by the time these are released the new tour will be here and everyone will be focusing on those boots
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    bumpity bump bump
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  • JuddyBuddyJuddyBuddy Posts: 15
    Cant believe these still aren't out yet. I took a month break from the forums and still...by the looks of it...no philly boots!! Lol, seems they have dissapeared in to the abyss!!! :(
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  • GTF13GTF13 Posts: 29
    I say we have to keep the faith... Not only will they EVENTUALLY be released...but, it will have been worth the wait. At least, one can hope... ;)
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  • davidtriosdavidtrios Posts: 9,732
    http://pearljam.com/news/phinally-philly
  • cheech721cheech721 Brunsville, MN Posts: 46
    dilemma now.. I want to buy the box set of the philly cds but I'll be moving around the time they are shipping and don't know the address yet... Should i get the digital downloads now or should i wait? We've waited so long...
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  • RubberbandmanRubberbandman Posts: 439
    dead never coming
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