also, there is a ton of vids on you tube, you have to sift through the bullshit though (type in Vann's Drumming this dude know what's up). if you don't have a kit, get a practice pad and the biggest freagin' sticks you can find (like drum corp./marching band) it'll build up you hand technique. LEARN DOUBLE STROKES.
i would highly recommend paying a lot of attention to Drum Theory and Notation jared faulk has a detailed section. learn how to read! it's easier than you think. then the skies the limit as long as you are willing to practice.
once, you know how to read pick up some books. the drummers cookbook by john pickering and the rockin' bass drum by john lombardo are great (two of my favorite books).
dont go spending a heap on your first kit just take your time getting the time as said on the other posts some good learning sites on the net but enjoy the groove and the noise the people around won't i have a electronic kit in the office at home to play around with wife and kids still tell me to the shut the door
First, I would recommend getting a USED drumset, as long as it sound "good". The reason I mention that is I fiddle around with guitar... and once I got a guitar that sounds "good" it made me much more happy with my sound, even with limited abilities. ...same with cymbals. Get cheap cymbals, but ones which sound good to you.
Secondly, I've been playing a drumset for about 25 years, and I learned by having a record player behind me and playing to the music that way. Just starting off playing easier songs that you like with your iPod, and wear hearing protection over your earbuds.
Lessons would probably be the quicker way, but the above is what worked for me.
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*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
First, I would recommend getting a USED drumset, as long as it sound "good". The reason I mention that is I fiddle around with guitar... and once I got a guitar that sounds "good" it made me much more happy with my sound, even with limited abilities. ...same with cymbals. Get cheap cymbals, but ones which sound good to you.
Secondly, I've been playing a drumset for about 25 years, and I learned by having a record player behind me and playing to the music that way. Just starting off playing easier songs that you like with your iPod, and wear hearing protection over your earbuds.
Lessons would probably be the quicker way, but the above is what worked for me.
Great advice. I recommend taking about 8-10 lessons to get started. Poor grip and technique will lead to injury to both your body and your cymbals.
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Find a good teacher and then you won't be practicing bad habits. I think drumming is an instrument that requires a good technique so you don't hurt yourself and so you know how to use your arms, wrists, hands and legs in a relaxed way.
I took my son to his drum lessons for years and I thought how great it was that good drum technique was so fluid, relaxed, yet precise at the same time! :shock:
i taught myself by listening to The Beatles and drumming along with Ringo.
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Verizon Center, Wash. DC - 5/30/06
Bonnaroo, Manchester, TN - 6/14/08
Madison Square Garden, NYC - 6/19/08
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/28/09
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/30/09
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/31/09
Madison Square Garden, NYC - 5/21/10
Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 10/21/13
1st Mariner Arena, Baltimore - 10/27/13 Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 4/28/16 Enterprise Center, Saint Louis - 9/18/22
The only word of advice I have is DONT go over analyzing songs and start playing covers of songs you like note for note, drum fill for drum fill. ( like what you would see on youtube) I never learned the drums by trying to play songs and because of that I developed my own style of playing very early on. 95% of the time I play its just me improv-ing and making up things as I go with no music playing. Then when I did go play with people it was awesome cuz I was just doing wierd ass shit with the music cuz I have my own style. I seriously can't even make an attempt of trying to play a song exactly the way it is on record.... that kills your style. drumming is supposed to change every time you play IMO.
edit: oh and you must practice rudiments. I never bothered with that and because of that I feel like my playing is kind of limited.
The only word of advice I have is DONT go over analyzing songs and start playing covers of songs you like note for note, drum fill for drum fill. ( like what you would see on youtube) I never learned the drums by trying to play songs and because of that I developed my own style of playing very early on. 95% of the time I play its just me improv-ing and making up things as I go with no music playing. Then when I did go play with people it was awesome cuz I was just doing wierd ass shit with the music cuz I have my own style. I seriously can't even make an attempt of trying to play a song exactly the way it is on record.... that kills your style. drumming is supposed to change every time you play IMO.
edit: oh and you must practice rudiments. I never bothered with that and because of that I feel like my playing is kind of limited.
I'd recommend the OP indeed learn "note-for-note" on a number of songs, and once he's built up a repertoire of skills, then he can learn to deviate from that. It's kinda like learning to speak a language, then learning how to create poetry, once you are familiar with how words are normally put together in sentences. I don't think the OP will be learning Keith Moon music to begin with anyway...
IMO, if the OP were to specifically not play note-for-note at the time they're just starting, they wouldn't be learning much to begin with. Much like a guitarist being told don't play the chords to a song... just make it up as you go along. But you need to know the chords to begin with, then you can learn to deviate from it.
OP - Above you see two polar opposites on how to approach leaning from existing music. Choose whichever you feel is the best way for yourself to learn.
ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
The only word of advice I have is DONT go over analyzing songs and start playing covers of songs you like note for note, drum fill for drum fill. ( like what you would see on youtube) I never learned the drums by trying to play songs and because of that I developed my own style of playing very early on. 95% of the time I play its just me improv-ing and making up things as I go with no music playing. Then when I did go play with people it was awesome cuz I was just doing wierd ass shit with the music cuz I have my own style. I seriously can't even make an attempt of trying to play a song exactly the way it is on record.... that kills your style. drumming is supposed to change every time you play IMO.
edit: oh and you must practice rudiments. I never bothered with that and because of that I feel like my playing is kind of limited.
I'd recommend the OP indeed learn "note-for-note" on a number of songs, and once he's built up a repertoire of skills, then he can learn to deviate from that. It's kinda like learning to speak a language, then learning how to create poetry, once you are familiar with how words are normally put together in sentences. I don't think the OP will be learning Keith Moon music to begin with anyway...
IMO, if the OP were to specifically not play note-for-note at the time they're just starting, they wouldn't be learning much to begin with. Much like a guitarist being told don't play the chords to a song... just make it up as you go along. But you need to know the chords to begin with, then you can learn to deviate from it.
OP - Above you see two polar opposites on how to approach leaning from existing music. Choose whichever you feel is the best way for yourself to learn.
I guess that makes sense. When I got my first drum lesson I learned the basic rock beat in like 5 minutes so from day one I was able to play very basic songs. So when I started playing I just played and made stuff up from the start. I didn't really need to bother playing to songs
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I have been wanting to learn it since I was 16 but first I failed to convince my parents and then there was this money / 'noise'/ space issue :?
Or you can come to terms and realize
You're the only one who can't forgive yourself
http://freedrumlessons.com/drum-lessons/
also, there is a ton of vids on you tube, you have to sift through the bullshit though (type in Vann's Drumming this dude know what's up). if you don't have a kit, get a practice pad and the biggest freagin' sticks you can find (like drum corp./marching band) it'll build up you hand technique. LEARN DOUBLE STROKES.
i would highly recommend paying a lot of attention to Drum Theory and Notation jared faulk has a detailed section. learn how to read! it's easier than you think. then the skies the limit as long as you are willing to practice.
once, you know how to read pick up some books. the drummers cookbook by john pickering and the rockin' bass drum by john lombardo are great (two of my favorite books).
Good Luck, and remember to just have fun with it!
Secondly, I've been playing a drumset for about 25 years, and I learned by having a record player behind me and playing to the music that way. Just starting off playing easier songs that you like with your iPod, and wear hearing protection over your earbuds.
Lessons would probably be the quicker way, but the above is what worked for me.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
Great advice. I recommend taking about 8-10 lessons to get started. Poor grip and technique will lead to injury to both your body and your cymbals.
Rudiments - do these over and over and over again and you'll get better every day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-rGsGZT ... re=related
Jojo - this guy's amazing and the dvd is the best our there - here's a clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3RoaedF ... re=related
I took my son to his drum lessons for years and I thought how great it was that good drum technique was so fluid, relaxed, yet precise at the same time! :shock:
Kind of like a noisy, fun, WILD kind of exercise.
Four-way independent coordination doesn't come overnight!
And unlike other instruments, where you can get by with poor or improper technique, drumming improperly can lead to injuries!
Tweeter Center, Camden - 5/27/06
Verizon Center, Wash. DC - 5/30/06
Bonnaroo, Manchester, TN - 6/14/08
Madison Square Garden, NYC - 6/19/08
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/28/09
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/30/09
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/31/09
Madison Square Garden, NYC - 5/21/10
Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 10/21/13
Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 4/28/16
Enterprise Center, Saint Louis - 9/18/22
edit: oh and you must practice rudiments. I never bothered with that and because of that I feel like my playing is kind of limited.
8/7/08, 6/9/09
I'd recommend the OP indeed learn "note-for-note" on a number of songs, and once he's built up a repertoire of skills, then he can learn to deviate from that. It's kinda like learning to speak a language, then learning how to create poetry, once you are familiar with how words are normally put together in sentences. I don't think the OP will be learning Keith Moon music to begin with anyway...
IMO, if the OP were to specifically not play note-for-note at the time they're just starting, they wouldn't be learning much to begin with. Much like a guitarist being told don't play the chords to a song... just make it up as you go along. But you need to know the chords to begin with, then you can learn to deviate from it.
OP - Above you see two polar opposites on how to approach leaning from existing music. Choose whichever you feel is the best way for yourself to learn.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
I guess that makes sense. When I got my first drum lesson I learned the basic rock beat in like 5 minutes so from day one I was able to play very basic songs. So when I started playing I just played and made stuff up from the start. I didn't really need to bother playing to songs
8/7/08, 6/9/09
Me too!!! I have a tape somewhere of me drumming along to the entire Please, Please Me album...