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eddie's solo pisses me off because...

SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,172
edited April 2008 in The Porch
its only a half an hour long not counting the silence after Guaranteed and the hidden track.
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  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    because most of his songs were shorter than 2 minutes. :( the longest two were covers. I liked the songs but seems like he really rushed it in.
    PJ- 04/29/2003.06/24,25,27,28,30/2008.10/27,28,30,31/2009
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  • Smellyman2Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    He said he did that on puropse so Sean Penn wouldn't have to edit the songs in the movie.

    It really not a true solo record
  • restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,951
    Smellyman wrote:

    It really not a true solo record



    yes it is. cant stand that statement.

    he sure can pack a lot of song into 2 and a half though hey?
    Van '98, Sea I+II '00, Sea '01, Sea II '02, Van '03, Gorge, Van, Cal, Edm '05, Bos I+II, Phi I+II, DC, SF II+III, Port, Gorge I+II '06, DC, NY I+II '08, Sea I+II, Van, Ridge , LA III+IV' 09, Indy '10, Cal, Van '11, Lond, Van, Sea '13, Memphis '14, RRHOF '17, Sea I+II '18, Van I+II, Vegas I+II '24
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,172
    i definitly like this cd and find the shorter songs interesting... but why not put more?

    and more importantly, he definitly put the long delay after Guaranteed just to make the album seem longer. i cant stand that.
    severed hand thirteen
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  • Smellyman2Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    restlesssoul wrote:
    yes it is. cant stand that statement.

    he sure can pack a lot of song into 2 and a half though hey?

    It's not really. It was the "into the wild" soundtrack and marketed as such. All lyrics, melodies, everything was geared towards the feel of the movie.

    Do you really think a ev record not supporting a movie would sound like that?
  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    Smellyman wrote:
    It's not really. It was the "into the wild" soundtrack and marketed as such. All lyrics, melodies, everything was geared towards the feel of the movie.

    Do you really think a ev record not supporting a movie would sound like that?
    I like that point of view. It's like the movie Being John Malkavich or something like that. Not really about John Malkavich but is focus on his fictional life.
    PJ- 04/29/2003.06/24,25,27,28,30/2008.10/27,28,30,31/2009
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  • restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,951
    it is eddie vedders first solo record, it was a soundtrack. that is all. i dont want or feel like arguing this point AGAIN. if it wasnt a soundtrack, no, it wouldnt have sounded like that, turns out though, it was a soundtrack and eddie vedders first solo record sounded like that.
    Van '98, Sea I+II '00, Sea '01, Sea II '02, Van '03, Gorge, Van, Cal, Edm '05, Bos I+II, Phi I+II, DC, SF II+III, Port, Gorge I+II '06, DC, NY I+II '08, Sea I+II, Van, Ridge , LA III+IV' 09, Indy '10, Cal, Van '11, Lond, Van, Sea '13, Memphis '14, RRHOF '17, Sea I+II '18, Van I+II, Vegas I+II '24
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,172
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    severed hand thirteen
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  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    restlesssoul wrote:
    it is eddie vedders first solo record, it was a soundtrack. that is all. i dont want or feel like arguing this point AGAIN. if it wasnt a soundtrack, no, it wouldnt have sounded like that, turns out though, it was a soundtrack and eddie vedders first solo record sounded like that.
    that's a good point too, because I'm sure Ed would find some sort of an inspiration through something similar about a journey or wandering into the wild.
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    EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
  • restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,951
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    the point of this thread is that the couple of minute delay between Guaranteed and the hidden track is bullshit.

    he probably just put it there so that when you check the length of the cd you see 33 minutes instead of 30.


    yeah that was eds big plan, to trick you out of 3 minutes. COME ON. what are you saying?
    Van '98, Sea I+II '00, Sea '01, Sea II '02, Van '03, Gorge, Van, Cal, Edm '05, Bos I+II, Phi I+II, DC, SF II+III, Port, Gorge I+II '06, DC, NY I+II '08, Sea I+II, Van, Ridge , LA III+IV' 09, Indy '10, Cal, Van '11, Lond, Van, Sea '13, Memphis '14, RRHOF '17, Sea I+II '18, Van I+II, Vegas I+II '24
  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    the point of this thread is that the couple of minute delay between Guaranteed and the hidden track is bullshit.

    he probably just put it there so that when you check the length of the cd you see 33 minutes instead of 30.
    the humming is a hidden song.
    PJ- 04/29/2003.06/24,25,27,28,30/2008.10/27,28,30,31/2009
    EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,172
    restlesssoul wrote:
    yeah that was eds big plan, to trick you out of 3 minutes. COME ON. what are you saying?

    im saying he saw the album was extremely short and decided to add a song that sounds like wolf anyway at the end after a delay to make the album longer.

    and that makes perfect sense- no one wants to release something that short.
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  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    im saying he saw the album was extremely short and decided to add a song that sounds like wolf anyway at the end after a delay to make the album longer.

    and that makes perfect sense- no one wants to release something that short.
    He also had No More, Photographs, and a couple of other songs to make it longer but he choose not or the studio did.

    So no...he's not tryin' to rip you off for paying $12 for a short album. He made it that way but could have made it longer.
    PJ- 04/29/2003.06/24,25,27,28,30/2008.10/27,28,30,31/2009
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  • restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,951
    regardless of length, people were going to buy this, because hey, its eddie vedders first solo album and people are interested in what it sounds like. :D

    30 minutes makes it all killer no filler. nuthin wrong with a short one. those songs are awesome albeit some are very short. its okay.
    Van '98, Sea I+II '00, Sea '01, Sea II '02, Van '03, Gorge, Van, Cal, Edm '05, Bos I+II, Phi I+II, DC, SF II+III, Port, Gorge I+II '06, DC, NY I+II '08, Sea I+II, Van, Ridge , LA III+IV' 09, Indy '10, Cal, Van '11, Lond, Van, Sea '13, Memphis '14, RRHOF '17, Sea I+II '18, Van I+II, Vegas I+II '24
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,172
    LongRd. wrote:
    He also had No More, Photographs, and a couple of other songs to make it longer but he choose not or the studio did.

    So no...he's not tryin' to rip you off for paying $12 for a short album. He made it that way but could have made it longer.

    first of all i downloaded it so i didnt spend 12 bucks haha. anyway, where those other songs completed before the album was done?

    i just have a thing for albums that are short and this one is cutting it close- thats why i brought this up.

    i never noticed it until weezer released 2 cds that where a little over a half hour long in just over a year.
    severed hand thirteen
    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,172
    restlesssoul wrote:
    regardless of length, people were going to buy this, because hey, its eddie vedders first solo album and people are interested in what it sounds like. :D

    30 minutes makes it all killer no filler. nuthin wrong with a short one. those songs are awesome albeit some are very short. its okay.

    i like your point about the all killer, no filler... except those minutes of silence. i'll find a way to get rid of them and only have like 3 seconds between the hidden track. then this thread can die haha.
    severed hand thirteen
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    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
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  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    first of all i downloaded it so i didnt spend 12 bucks haha. anyway, where those other songs completed before the album was done?

    i just have a thing for albums that are short and this one is cutting it close- thats why i brought this up.

    i never noticed it until weezer released 2 cds that where a little over a half hour long in just over a year.
    I think No More was used for a different soundtrack, a movie about soldiers.

    Photographs was probably recorded during the session because it's only 1 minute long. :phttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_the_Wild_%28soundtrack%29

    But in the end, it's an ACOUSTIC album also, if you listen to the Violent Femmes or any other acoustic acts, most of the songs are short. Hard to do a guitar solo on an acoustic.
    PJ- 04/29/2003.06/24,25,27,28,30/2008.10/27,28,30,31/2009
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,172
    LongRd. wrote:
    I think No More was used for a different soundtrack, a movie about soldiers.

    Photographs was probably recorded during the session because it's only 1 minute long. :phttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_the_Wild_%28soundtrack%29

    But in the end, it's an ACOUSTIC album also, if you listen to the Violent Femmes or any other acoustic acts, most of the songs are short. Hard to do a guitar solo on an acoustic.

    its such bullshit that those songs are "Album Only" on iTunes.

    i was just going to get them.
    severed hand thirteen
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    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
  • red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    its only a half an hour long not counting the silence after Guaranteed and the hidden track.

    I love the album, it's fantastic. On the contrary though, I agree seems like some of the songs could have had a few more chorus refrains to make them a tad bit longer. Still an incredible record though. One of my favorites.
    PJ: 10/14/00 06/09/03 10/4/09 11/15/13 11/16/13 10/08/14
    EV Solo: 7/11/11 11/12/12 11/13/12
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