15 yr old wanted to see what it felt like WTF ...
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I guess that mental health treatment wasn't very good. I can't imagine what the parents of that little girl are feeling right now. Such a waste...for nothing. How do you live with that?
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
in the article, her lawyer was arguing for her to be tried as a juvenile because "We are throwing away the child and we are signing a death sentence for Alyssa," Valentine said. "She is not going to survive her time in the Cole County jail."
Is there something wrong with me if I don't care?
I'm not a psychologist, but I can't see how someone at her age who is mentally wired to do this can ever be "rehabilitated".
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
i'm gonna assume that her treatment may have included drugs - is it possible these drugs caused some imbalance in her brain that could have led to this? ...
Possibly...
One other point that was eluded to in the article:
"On one side of the courtroom sat her mother and grandmother, who has been Bustamante's legal guardian for about half of her life."
Her father wasn't mentioned, so I'm assuming he isn't in the picture.... the mother is there, but her grandmother is/has been her legal guardian, so you know the mother has some major issues to lose or have to give up her daughter... Likely this girl was raised in a very bad situation.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
that is so tragic, and yea...fubar...
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
I can't help but think that the way the media handles these stories...glorifies them, puts the victim and the murderers on television and give them undivided attention for days... I can't help but believe they are partly to blame. People pick up on that.
Something that I have thought for a long time now. :(
(edit) To expound a little (not directed at polaris), I havent worked with flat out sociopaths, but I have worked with mentally impaired ones. And I see it as all too possible that this was done completely without malice on the girl's part. Some people just dont have that empathy block that stops them from doing such things. She probably could have gotten more help at an earlier time, and maybe better parenting could have helped, then again maybe not.
Sad case.
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
thanks for the info - it just seems that people's initial response is for some of eye for eye justice ... similar to the sniper execution - isn't the most important thing to try and prevent this from happening again? ... we should look into what would possess someone to do something like this ... killing her or putting her away for life only takes her off the streets ...
yeah, that is mega f*cked up. when she gets out of juvie they should throw her right back in adult prison and throw away the key--for life!! i know the system doesn't work like that, but maybe it should for this case.
i also didn't read what the verdict was, so i'm mainly talking out of my a*s right now.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
It seems to me that the only factor in deciding whether to charge a juvenile as an adult is the seriousness of the crime.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
No shit?
As it should be I think.
i think media in the US tells us shit. they try to make us think people are evil and selfish and cruel, and i'm not sure why exactly, but that's the feeling i get from watching US television. maybe it makes the wars easier to stomach, idk.
but check out an international news source sometime....there's plenty of good stories going on.
like an individual who found siamese twins, joined at the head, abandoned at an orphanage. she ended up flying them to australia where a team doctors, (working for free) separated them in a marathon surgery.
its just one example of how people aren't cruel and selfish and so as fucked up as you might ingesting US media. that story involved dozens of people, and they all gave a fuck.
not like this girl. but her attitude is the exception in this world, not the rule.
right on commy.
and the twins are doing awesome. such a great story.
A Bangladeshi girl separated this week from her conjoined twin sister was talking and behaving normally yesterday after waking from a medically induced coma.
Trishna is doing well and has left intensive care, said Wirginia Maixner, director of neurosurgery at the Royal Children's Hospital in Melbourne, Australia. Her sister, Krishna, was due to be brought out of the coma later.
Krishna will have a longer period of adjustment as the separation brought more changes to her body and brain. MRI scans on Wednesday showed no signs of brain injury. The twins, who were joined at the head, will be three next month.