2017 Buffalo Bills - The hunt for a playoff berth

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  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,696
    Barring a miracle, it will be another year without playoffs. :angry: This team is average at best. We have one win against a team with a winning record.
  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,696
    Would be a lot of fun to be at this game today.
  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,696
    Make it 17 years :angry:
  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,696
    Good riddance, Rex. I agree with the move and also believe that Whaley needs to go. Whomever the next coach is needs to be kept at least 4-5 years.
  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,913
    pearldavidson said:

    Good riddance, Rex. I agree with the move and also believe that Whaley needs to go. Whomever the next coach is needs to be kept at least 4-5 years.

    Seems a bit extreme to get rid of Rex already, no?? Only gave him 2 years with Tyrod Taylor as his QB....sounds like Whaley is a big problem too.
  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,696
    Indifference71 said:

    pearldavidson said:

    Good riddance, Rex. I agree with the move and also believe that Whaley needs to go. Whomever the next coach is needs to be kept at least 4-5 years.

    Seems a bit extreme to get rid of Rex already, no?? Only gave him 2 years with Tyrod Taylor as his QB....sounds like Whaley is a big problem too.
    I don't think Rex was the right hire to begin with. Whaley is a problem. Maybe more of a problem than Rex. It's so laughable that Whaley negotiated a deal where Tyrod Taylor is guaranteed $30 Million next year if he is still on the roster. Unbelievable.
  • davidtrios
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    Tyrod informed the team he had surgery for a sports hernia yesterday.
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  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,696
    Tyrod better not be on the Roster when he is due that $30M. Unbelievable! Why do I like this team? They are not serious about winning.
  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,696
    davidtrios said:

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    Lol. A buddy of mine posted this on my FB today. This organization has been a joke for the longest time.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    pearldavidson said:

    Tyrod better not be on the Roster when he is due that $30M. Unbelievable! Why do I like this team? They are not serious about winning.

    If I understand correctly, the cap hit will only be $15.9M. In a world where Kirk Cousins could get $25M, that seems reasonable based on Tyrod's stats. There are only around 15 people in the world that can play NFL QB with competence. Tyrod seems to be on that cusp based on stats.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Jason P said:

    pearldavidson said:

    Tyrod better not be on the Roster when he is due that $30M. Unbelievable! Why do I like this team? They are not serious about winning.

    If I understand correctly, the cap hit will only be $15.9M. In a world where Kirk Cousins could get $25M, that seems reasonable based on Tyrod's stats. There are only around 15 people in the world that can play NFL QB with competence. Tyrod seems to be on that cusp based on stats.
    Yeah I didn't realize this until my brother in law who is a bills fan told me. It's $30 mil over 2 years, so it's not as bad as it sounds
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    It is really bad and disjointed management throughout.

    Wilson had his money guys and his lifers running the team over his last 10 years-ish. The goal was not necessarily to win... it was to appease the fans enough so they would tolerate and continue to support the management structure. They became masters at outsourcing blame to whatever head coach or lead scout they sacrificed. One time, Ralph Wilson himself fell on the sword when he 'stepped down' in 2013 to hand control to Russ Brandon (who really had control for years).

    For some inexplicable reason, Terry Pegula has kept the same management who was tasked with basically keeping the franchise on moth balls waiting for Wilson's death. We are witnessing the death throes of the management, and we have witnessed since Wilson's death. Starting with the Watkins trade and Russ Brandon standing there and clapping like a fool, all the fighting with Marrone and the circus surrounding his dismissal... Bill Polian apparently coming in as a consultant and declining because someone with the Bills was 'badmouthing' him.
    The circus around the Rex Ryan hire and the strange accountibility structure, culminating with the events of the past 2 weeks. Throughout, tons of leaks from the organization.

    The bad thing is, Pegula is allowing this management to continue. They are desperate and will continue to make bad moves chasing the 8-8 record. There is going to be cap trouble and they will continue the mistake of trading up in the draft, costing assets.

    What they need is for Pegula to clean house and salt the Earth. Make an offer to someone... dont know, maybe Caserio from New England... cant refuse with a long time window 10 years, $100 Mil to build from the top down. Full authority. Take a step back, cleanse the cap numbers, be wary of long committments... trade down in the draft, a lot... build on both lines... and spend a lot of effort in finding and developing the franchise QB.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    Jason P said:

    pearldavidson said:

    Tyrod better not be on the Roster when he is due that $30M. Unbelievable! Why do I like this team? They are not serious about winning.

    If I understand correctly, the cap hit will only be $15.9M. In a world where Kirk Cousins could get $25M, that seems reasonable based on Tyrod's stats. There are only around 15 people in the world that can play NFL QB with competence. Tyrod seems to be on that cusp based on stats.
    He is kind of bad. Unable to throw to or see the middle of the field. Cannot beat any good defense... it is semi-hopeless. Once a team stops the run and/or takes a small lead, the game is over. You force Taylor to pass and its over

    I am also against the running QB. He is going to get hurt.

    then, mix that in with the Bills' idiotic habit of 'committing' to a QB, thus refusing to bring in anyone who could ever possibly compete for the job... being deathly afraid of QB contraversy
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    Are you better off with EJ then Tyrod? Maybe lure Orton out of retirement with a lifetime membership card to Great Clips? The draft looks to be a bummer year for QBs.

    Maybe Blaine Gabbert will be available.

    These are the questions you must ask before kicking Tyrod to the curb.
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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,913
    MayDay10 said:

    Jason P said:

    pearldavidson said:

    Tyrod better not be on the Roster when he is due that $30M. Unbelievable! Why do I like this team? They are not serious about winning.

    If I understand correctly, the cap hit will only be $15.9M. In a world where Kirk Cousins could get $25M, that seems reasonable based on Tyrod's stats. There are only around 15 people in the world that can play NFL QB with competence. Tyrod seems to be on that cusp based on stats.
    He is kind of bad. Unable to throw to or see the middle of the field. Cannot beat any good defense... it is semi-hopeless. Once a team stops the run and/or takes a small lead, the game is over. You force Taylor to pass and its over

    I am also against the running QB. He is going to get hurt.

    then, mix that in with the Bills' idiotic habit of 'committing' to a QB, thus refusing to bring in anyone who could ever possibly compete for the job... being deathly afraid of QB contraversy
    Taylor is bad. I watched plenty of the Bills this year (McCoy was my fantasy RB and I bet on them a lot this year for some reason) and Taylor would make so many awful decisions. But then every once in awhile he would throw a beautiful deep ball or make a great play on his feet....I could see how he would be super frustrating to root for as your QB. I thought that their offensive play calling this year was terrible. I know he missed a game or 2, but McCoy only had 230 carries the whole year and averaged over 5 yards per carry.....feed him the ball! I really don't get why this guy Anthony Lynn is a head coaching candidate.

    It sounds like the whole organizational structure there is a mess. The GM didn't have any say on the firing of the head coach??? Crazy.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    Jason P said:

    Are you better off with EJ then Tyrod? Maybe lure Orton out of retirement with a lifetime membership card to Great Clips? The draft looks to be a bummer year for QBs.

    Maybe Blaine Gabbert will be available.

    These are the questions you must ask before kicking Tyrod to the curb.

    I am sick of them chasing .500. Essentially, that is what Tyrod is. I will freely admit with confidence that the Bills are not going to win the Superbowl in the next 3 years. I would trade places with the Browns right now any day of the week.

    A journeyman like Hoyer, maybe Cutler, etc could possibly be an adequate bridge for a year or 2 until they find a QB.
  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,696
    Although a lot better than EJ, Taylor is not the answer. We had one win against a team with a winning record this year and that was against New England and their third string quarterback.
  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,696
    Another thing that really grinds my gears: The Bills Facebook page. Whoever manages it loves to shove the great rushing attack right down our throats. It makes me sick. A great running game amounted to 1 win against a team with a winning record and no playoffs. You have to be able to pass your way to victory in this league and Taylor can't do that nearly consistent enough. I would rather be in the Browns position - no joke. The Bills make me sick sometimes.
  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,696
    Sean McDermott. I don't have much of an opinion on the guy, but I think we have to give him 4-5 years. The revolving door at coach isn't helping. Either is hiring the the wrong HC *cough cough...Rex Ryan. Can't believe his mall Santa of a brother Rob is being considered for the defensive coordinator of the Redskins.

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