Former Miss California Update...

Cosmo

She's back... Miss Prejean has her new book on the shelves today.
It's probably best if she just shut up already and married some rich old guy for money... 'Values'... my ass.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/1 ... cnn_latest

Lizard

You're being inappropriate.

norm

can this idiot please go away...or make more jerking off videos...it's about all's she good for

Cosmo

Let me add... Her sex tape... not a bad thing and she shouldn't be judge for making the tape. Her problem is her credibility... she can't say porn in a terrible contributor to women being treated as sexual objects... and make porn, herself.
If you ask me... if anything, Beauty Pagents are contributors to women being viewed as sexual object.
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Also... anyone want to make odds on the male hairdressers, make-up artists and seamstresses that do her hair, make-up and evening gowns and costumes for those pagents being gay or straight? I'm placing my money on Gay... any takers?
I'm pretty sure she has worked close with them and relied on their work for her success... but, she doesn't want them to be able to marry?

Cosmo

norm wrote:

can this idiot please go away...or make more jerking off videos...it's about all's she good for

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I'm hoping they show up on the Free porn websites... pretty soon. I hope that at least one of them involved a Sybian.

pandora

I like her.... being a slightly conservative women myself- I don't like the ---- who asked her that question- you could tell he was up to no good what a set up for her. And Trump please what a womanizing ass with really bad hair. (Prays for wind)
All happens for the best I'm sure she will do fine- finer than being his Miss USA

norm

Cosmo wrote:

Let me add... Her sex tape... not a bad thing and she shouldn't be judge for making the tape. Her problem is her credibility... she can't say porn in a terrible contributor to women being treated as sexual objects... and make porn, herself.
If you ask me... if anything, Beauty Pagents are contributors to women being viewed as sexual object.
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Also... anyone want to make odds on the male hairdressers, make-up artists and seamstresses that do her hair, make-up and evening gowns and costumes for those pagents being gay or straight? I'm placing my money on Gay... any takers?
I'm pretty sure she has worked close with them and relied on their work for her success... but, she doesn't want them to be able to marry?

hypocrisy is a big word for her...if one told her she was one, she'd cock her head like a confused dog and smoke would start coming out of her ears..and then she'd tell ya you were being inappropriate

Cosmo wrote:

norm wrote:

can this idiot please go away...or make more jerking off videos...it's about all's she good for

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I'm hoping they show up on the Free porn websites... pretty soon. I hope that at least one of them involved a Sybian.

:thumbup:

Cosmo

pandora wrote:

I like her.... being a slightly conservative women myself- I don't like the ---- who asked her that question- you could tell he was up to no good what a set up for her. And Trump please what a womanizing ass with really bad hair. (Prays for wind)
All happens for the best I'm sure she will do fine- finer than being his Miss USA

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Miss Prejean had a multi-million dollar lawsuit against the Miss California Pageant. They fired her, not because of her feelings on Gay Marriage, but because of her failure to show up at pageant sponsored events (dinners, parades, etc...) and such... the Pageants make money and gain advertising from these events.
The Video Tapes surfaced in the negotiations with the lawyers. Once she found out that the lawyers found out about the tapes... she dropped her lawsuit. She knew about the tapes beforehand... yet, filed a lawsuit, in the hopes that they would never surface. The participants sign up for these pageants stating they have not and will not participate in porn.
All Larry King asked was 'what was the motivation of her dropping the lawsuit?' She deemed that question as inappropriate. Inappropriate because her motivation shows her as a money grubbing, sue-happy, self-tittled "victim".
Like I said.. I have no problem with her sexuality... of even her opinions... it's the whole, Family Values bullshit where I'm a bad guy because i like porn and I like banging girls i'm not married to. I don't care who doing who... not my job. Just, I feel that if you are going to condemn someone or something... it's best that you are not the thing you are condemning.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

i need more information before i can form an opinion. if anyone has said sex tape i would appreciate a PM and a link. for... uh... evidence gathering purposes.

soulsinging

MrSmith wrote:

i need more information before i can form an opinion. if anyone has said sex tape i would appreciate a PM and a link. for... uh... evidence gathering purposes.

seconded.

pandora

Cosmo wrote:

pandora wrote:

I like her.... being a slightly conservative women myself- I don't like the ---- who asked her that question- you could tell he was up to no good what a set up for her. And Trump please what a womanizing ass with really bad hair. (Prays for wind)
All happens for the best I'm sure she will do fine- finer than being his Miss USA

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Miss Prejean had a multi-million dollar lawsuit against the Miss California Pageant. They fired her, not because of her feelings on Gay Marriage, but because of her failure to show up at pageant sponsored events (dinners, parades, etc...) and such... the Pageants make money and gain advertising from these events.
The Video Tapes surfaced in the negotiations with the lawyers. Once she found out that the lawyers found out about the tapes... she dropped her lawsuit. She knew about the tapes beforehand... yet, filed a lawsuit, in the hopes that they would never surface. The participants sign up for these pageants stating they have not and will not participate in porn.
All Larry King asked was 'what was the motivation of her dropping the lawsuit?' She deemed that question as inappropriate. Inappropriate because her motivation shows her as a money grubbing, sue-happy, self-tittled "victim".
Like I said.. I have no problem with her sexuality... of even her opinions... it's the whole, Family Values bullshit where I'm a bad guy because i like porn and I like banging girls i'm not married to. I don't care who doing who... not my job. Just, I feel that if you are going to condemn someone or something... it's best that you are not the thing you are condemning.

Still like her and wish her the best- not sure we really know what kind of settlement she got unimportant though I guess. I liked Anna Nicole Smith too very much- care to tear into her- probably a lot of ammo there

soulsinging

pandora wrote:

I like her.... being a slightly conservative women myself- I don't like the ---- who asked her that question- you could tell he was up to no good what a set up for her. And Trump please what a womanizing ass with really bad hair. (Prays for wind)
All happens for the best I'm sure she will do fine- finer than being his Miss USA

you say that like womanizing is a bad thing.

pandora

soulsinging wrote:

pandora wrote:

I like her.... being a slightly conservative women myself- I don't like the ---- who asked her that question- you could tell he was up to no good what a set up for her. And Trump please what a womanizing ass with really bad hair. (Prays for wind)
All happens for the best I'm sure she will do fine- finer than being his Miss USA

you say that like womanizing is a bad thing.

you always make me smile

soulsinging

pandora wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

pandora wrote:

I like her.... being a slightly conservative women myself- I don't like the ---- who asked her that question- you could tell he was up to no good what a set up for her. And Trump please what a womanizing ass with really bad hair. (Prays for wind)
All happens for the best I'm sure she will do fine- finer than being his Miss USA

you say that like womanizing is a bad thing.

you always make me smile

would that i had the same effect on me... i'm not joking

pandora

but you're still funny

Cosmo

pandora wrote:

Still like her and wish her the best- not sure we really know what kind of settlement she got unimportant though I guess. I liked Anna Nicole Smith too very much- care to tear into her- probably a lot of ammo there

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Which is fine. I don't wish Miss Prejean any ill will. I just feel she needs to accept her loss and a loss... like any other pageant contestant that isn't crowned.
As I stated, the only problem i have with Miss Prejean is her credibility. She lost the Miss Universe Pageant and tried to blame in on her stance on Gay Marriage. Who know is that is the truth? Would she have still lost had she not made that statement? We don't know.
Then, she tried to parlay that into a political thing... and tried to sue, based on that. She sold herself as this righteous, vitruous Christian woman who got swept out the door by some sort of anti-Christian 'Gay Agenda'.
She knew about her past... the skeletons in her closet... yet, she STILL went through with her lawsuit. When she realized that the opposing lawyers knew her lawsuit was a sham and could prove it in court... she dropped it. Otherwise, she probably would have continued playing that role as a persecuted Christian victim thing towards a multi-million dollar payday.
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Again, I have no problem with her... other than that. I may not agree with her opinions, but I respect them. And I am not making moral judgements against her... just pointing out her character and decision making. Nothing wrong with masterbation... everyone does it (and anyone who tells you they don't is either a liar or a Eunuch), I don't have a problem with her sending out her homemade videos or her sex life. That's all her call. If anything, I would think is less of so-called Christians that would abandon her because she made the sex tapes.
But, blaming porn for women's self-image problems, as stated in her book... from a beauty pageant contestant that makes porn videos... destroys her credibility. And that whole, Christian Family Values thing she was selling... that's fine, as long as Good Christian Family values includes making videos of yourself, strumming your banjo and having pre-marital sex.
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As for Anna-Nicole Smith... that was a tragic story with a predictable ending.

norm

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2 ... an-surface

pandora

Cosmo wrote:

pandora wrote:

Still like her and wish her the best- not sure we really know what kind of settlement she got unimportant though I guess. I liked Anna Nicole Smith too very much- care to tear into her- probably a lot of ammo there

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Which is fine. I don't wish Miss Prejean any ill will. I just feel she needs to accept her loss and a loss... like any other pageant contestant that isn't crowned.
As I stated, the only problem i have with Miss Prejean is her credibility. She lost the Miss Universe Pageant and tried to blame in on her stance on Gay Marriage. Who know is that is the truth? Would she have still lost had she not made that statement? We don't know.
Then, she tried to parlay that into a political thing... and tried to sue, based on that. She sold herself as this righteous, vitruous Christian woman who got swept out the door by some sort of anti-Christian 'Gay Agenda'.
She knew about her past... the skeletons in her closet... yet, she STILL went through with her lawsuit. When she realized that the opposing lawyers knew her lawsuit was a sham and could prove it in court... she dropped it. Otherwise, she probably would have continued playing that role as a persecuted Christian victim thing towards a multi-million dollar payday.
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Again, I have no problem with her... other than that. I may not agree with her opinions, but I respect them. And I am not making moral judgements against her... just pointing out her character and decision making. Nothing wrong with masterbation... everyone does it (and anyone who tells you they don't is either a liar or a Eunuch), I don't have a problem with her sending out her homemade videos or her sex life. That's all her call. If anything, I would think is less of so-called Christians that would abandon her because she made the sex tapes.
But, blaming porn for women's self-image problems, as stated in her book... from a beauty pageant contestant that makes porn videos... destroys her credibility. And that whole, Christian Family Values thing she was selling... that's fine, as long as Good Christian Family values includes making videos of yourself, strumming your banjo and having pre-marital sex.
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As for Anna-Nicole Smith... that was a tragic story with a predictable ending.

Its in my nature to give people the benefit of the doubt. I usually get a feel and stick with it, maybe I'm too gullible. I thought her sex tapes were no big deal compared to most- of course I didn't see them, taking that on her word. I thought they were sent to an old boyfriend from her younger days also her word. My gut feeling stays the same though and its all I'm really going on here. It was a loaded question given to her by a guy who appears to be a real jag- if you watch him give the question its pretty obvious.He was almost excited about it. It was a highly controversial compared to others and I believe this man knew she would give a politically incorrect answer. I feel that was unfair. I do think it influenced her loss. What happened after I am not much up on. I think you can be a good Christian person and make stupid mistakes at any age but most especially as a teenager.She deserves at least that much understanding. I actually believe you can have premarital sex and be a good Christian- I'm of the belief that you do not have to follow the rules of religion to listen to Christ's words, keep him in your heart and just do your best in your life.

The Juggler

Cosmo wrote:

Also... anyone want to make odds on the male hairdressers, make-up artists and seamstresses that do her hair, make-up and evening gowns and costumes for those pagents being gay or straight? I'm placing my money on Gay... any takers?
I'm pretty sure she has worked close with them and relied on their work for her success... but, she doesn't want them to be able to marry?

just because she believes they should not be allowed to marry does not mean she does not like them. :roll:

soulsinging

pandora wrote:

I actually believe you can have premarital sex and be a good Christian- I'm of the belief that you do not have to follow the rules of religion to listen to Christ's words, keep him in your heart and just do your best in your life.

then why isnt this approach applied to homosexuality? maybe by trying to marry or pursue their relationship, they're keeping christ more in their hearts. why is it ok to break the rules of religion on sex if you're straight, but not if you're gay?

Jeanwah

Cosmo wrote:

Which is fine. I don't wish Miss Prejean any ill will. I just feel she needs to accept her loss and a loss... like any other pageant contestant that isn't crowned.
As I stated, the only problem i have with Miss Prejean is her credibility. She lost the Miss Universe Pageant and tried to blame in on her stance on Gay Marriage. Who know is that is the truth? Would she have still lost had she not made that statement? We don't know.
Then, she tried to parlay that into a political thing... and tried to sue, based on that. She sold herself as this righteous, vitruous Christian woman who got swept out the door by some sort of anti-Christian 'Gay Agenda'.
She knew about her past... the skeletons in her closet... yet, she STILL went through with her lawsuit. When she realized that the opposing lawyers knew her lawsuit was a sham and could prove it in court... she dropped it. Otherwise, she probably would have continued playing that role as a persecuted Christian victim thing towards a multi-million dollar payday.

I agree. I give the woman kudos for being strong and forthright, BUT she plays the game that Palin plays, that "I'm just a victim here" game, along with contradiction after contradiction, that really blows her credibility out of the water.

pandora

soulsinging wrote:

pandora wrote:

I actually believe you can have premarital sex and be a good Christian- I'm of the belief that you do not have to follow the rules of religion to listen to Christ's words, keep him in your heart and just do your best in your life.

then why isnt this approach applied to homosexuality? maybe by trying to marry or pursue their relationship, they're keeping christ more in their hearts. why is it ok to break the rules of religion on sex if you're straight, but not if you're gay?

For me it doesn't matter gay or straight its what's in your heart, its a matter of commitment not legalities of marriage nor rules of any particular religion. I think her question was should the government allow legal same sex marriages and she said no, marriage should remain between a man and a woman. This question was part of her demise although its a huge debate in our country thus dividing it . Her opinion, which is her right, is that it should stay between a man and a woman. This really doesn't have anything to do with premarital sex.Her conduct was exposed after the fact to make her less credible in her opinion which is pretty much bullshit.
Personally I see both sides of the gay marriage issue and say let the the states decide. I think if you don't like what was decided in your state after the vote- move. But then I also think its a slow evolution of humanity to same sex eventually a no sex human race- not to bum anyone out. I believe if we are allowed to continue, which looks increasingly less likely, we will evolve into the best qualities of man and woman - made in the image of our maker God.
Its Evolution Baby!

Cosmo

The Jeagler wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

Also... anyone want to make odds on the male hairdressers, make-up artists and seamstresses that do her hair, make-up and evening gowns and costumes for those pagents being gay or straight? I'm placing my money on Gay... any takers?
I'm pretty sure she has worked close with them and relied on their work for her success... but, she doesn't want them to be able to marry?

just because she believes they should not be allowed to marry does not mean she does not like them. :roll:

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Then, that same excuse can apply to the following statement, right?
"I don't think black people and white people should be able to marry because I don't believe in the mixing of the bloods. I am not against black people... i have some black employees and i like them. i just don't think they should be able to marry... inter-racially."
I know... race vs. sexual orientation... but the basic premise is the same. Liking a person and believing in what they can and can't do.

ledvedderman

All I know is...I'd do her

Cosmo

pandora wrote:

For me it doesn't matter gay or straight its what's in your heart, its a matter of commitment not legalities of marriage nor rules of any particular religion. I think her question was should the government allow legal same sex marriages and she said no, marriage should remain between a man and a woman. This question was part of her demise although its a huge debate in our country thus dividing it . Her opinion, which is her right, is that it should stay between a man and a woman. This really doesn't have anything to do with premarital sex.Her conduct was exposed after the fact to make her less credible in her opinion which is pretty much bullshit.
Personally I see both sides of the gay marriage issue and say let the the states decide. I think if you don't like what was decided in your state after the vote- move. But then I also think its a slow evolution of humanity to same sex eventually a no sex human race- not to bum anyone out. I believe if we are allowed to continue, which looks increasingly less likely, we will evolve into the best qualities of man and woman - made in the image of our maker God.
Its Evolution Baby!

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I don't have any problems with her opinions on gay marriage. I don't care about pre-marital sex, who's doing what to who... or themselves.
The only problem I have... is when people, like Miss Prejean, says in her book stuff like porn is the reasons why our country is headed in the direction it is... while participating in it. I just have problems believing people that will claim to be one thing... and prove they are the thing that are against. She is also trying to blame her answer as to the reason WHY she lost te contest. Maybe the true answer is... the other contestant won. Simple as that.

Lizard

I love her remark on getting fake boobs and being a Christian: "I don't see anywhere in the Bible where it says you shouldn't get breast implants."
:wtf:

3rd question: http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2009/novemberweb-only/145-22.0.html?start=4